Amazon Kindle (ebook thingy)

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the display on my kindle broke several weeks ago (by "broke" i mean, 2/3 of the screen was stuck looking like a scrambled cable channel). got another one under the warranty but after a few weeks the new one's screen is broken as well. i believe i can get yet another replacement. i think the culprit is my tendency to carelessly tossing my backpack around.

blank, Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:47 (fifteen years ago)

have you considered not tossing your backpack around

You Say Various Things (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:50 (fifteen years ago)

no

blank, Saturday, 9 April 2011 23:12 (fifteen years ago)

eh i will probably just use it at home from now on.

blank, Saturday, 9 April 2011 23:14 (fifteen years ago)

oh wait my library only has EPUB files. no kindle for me.

jay lenonononono (abanana), Sunday, 10 April 2011 03:00 (fifteen years ago)

Get Calibre.

You Say Various Things (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 03:07 (fifteen years ago)

I'm not reading a book on my computer. I tried that with comics and it was terrible.

jay lenonononono (abanana), Sunday, 10 April 2011 03:18 (fifteen years ago)

No no no, you use Calibre to convert your epubs to mobi format (if there's no DRM).

You Say Various Things (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 03:20 (fifteen years ago)

this is on the way!

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

\(^_^)/

You Say Various Things (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:25 (fifteen years ago)

ya srsly stoked

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Sunday, 10 April 2011 22:33 (fifteen years ago)

calibre is a bit of a nightmare though right? any alternative?

forest zombie (Vasco da Gama), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:08 (fifteen years ago)

(aa here) Not that I know of. Calibre's interface is an abortion but it's the best free conversion tool available.

snythpop revolution (Schlafsack), Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:09 (fifteen years ago)

Horrible interface, but I was shocked how good Calibre's conversion was. Saved me a lot of trouble at work, I originally planned to maintain two separate versions of our book, one Mobi and one ePub, but Calibre does a really great job converting ePubs.

Nhex, Monday, 11 April 2011 00:33 (fifteen years ago)

Ok, I’ll take a beta blocker then try it again

forest zombie (Vasco da Gama), Monday, 11 April 2011 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

you can now buy a Kindle for $114 ($25 than the previous cheapest price) but it has "sponsored screensavers" and ads that run on the bottom of the home page

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004HFS6Z0/ref=tsm_1_fb_kin_kdev_20110411

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 11 April 2011 22:02 (fifteen years ago)

whaaaaat

You Say Various Things (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 11 April 2011 22:04 (fifteen years ago)

save $20 and watch nonstop ads, the fuck

You Say Various Things (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 11 April 2011 22:05 (fifteen years ago)

i actually literally do not even

You Say Various Things (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 11 April 2011 22:06 (fifteen years ago)

well tbf they aren't "nonstop," they're on the screensaver and on the home page - not in the book itself - based on my understanding

congratulations (n/a), Monday, 11 April 2011 22:07 (fifteen years ago)

still totally bizarre, like they're giving people small discounts to be guinea pigs

You Say Various Things (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 11 April 2011 22:10 (fifteen years ago)

p terrible idea

Also I recently got a couple medical texts on kindle and while its awesome to have thousands of pages of reference in my pocket, neither of them have ~functional tables of content~. like wtf. That is some bullshit imo

FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Monday, 11 April 2011 22:26 (fifteen years ago)

from what I understand, you can put your own homebrew screensavers on the kindle and amazondoesn't give a crap (they won't say you violated warranty for some obscure reason)

cold hands of monkeys on my heart (CaptainLorax), Monday, 11 April 2011 22:29 (fifteen years ago)

there's freeware called Calibre that converts book files to one another

cold hands of monkeys on my heart (CaptainLorax), Monday, 11 April 2011 22:30 (fifteen years ago)

dude we were having the calibre discussion yesterday :)

gbx, there's an issue with publishers chucking their proofs into some magical machine and selling the results without so much as a glance. Also recently I downloaded samples of a few Chinese grammar books, all of which had the Chinese bits in jpg tables. What the hell am I going to do with a jpg table full of sentences ffs.

snythpop revolution (Schlafsack), Monday, 11 April 2011 22:48 (fifteen years ago)

I've been downloading samples by default now, burnt by too many terrible conversions.

stet, Monday, 11 April 2011 23:09 (fifteen years ago)

Oddly I find that some books on the ~~~~net are far more accurate than the official samples on Amazon. imo they have no right to cry foul until they start offering customers a quality product, especially at $10 a time.

snythpop revolution (Schlafsack), Monday, 11 April 2011 23:20 (fifteen years ago)

for real. these books are almost entirely useless now (two are references that aren't necessarily meant to be read in a linear fashion, and the other is a book of practice questions grouped by subject. again, non-linear).

even more aggravating is that fixing the book ought to be something i could do myself---i know LaTeX and HTML and the like, and i can't imagine that a functional table of contents consists of much more than links to anchors or w/e

FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Monday, 11 April 2011 23:26 (fifteen years ago)

like this shit would take the publisher maybe a couple hours to fix

FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Monday, 11 April 2011 23:26 (fifteen years ago)

I suppose when ebooks hit critical mass (currently boosted by the death of Borders worldwide imo) they'll suddenly panic and pay some outsourcing company to do all the resetting, but by then customers will have seen the representative quality on offer and given up. And I've not even mentioned DRM, geographic restrictions &c.

snythpop revolution (Schlafsack), Monday, 11 April 2011 23:38 (fifteen years ago)

oh man, i could soapbox about this all day

snythpop revolution (Schlafsack), Monday, 11 April 2011 23:39 (fifteen years ago)

I just spent actual money on Kindle books for the first time today after finding Alfred Kubin's The Other Side and Lexicon Devil (the Darby Crash bio) were out as Kindle books. Had almost given up hope of either ever coming back in print.

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 00:11 (fifteen years ago)

but real books are cool

calstars, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 01:42 (fifteen years ago)

and don't you want that cute girl/boy across from you to see what you're reading? (assuming its not game of thrones or something)

calstars, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 01:43 (fifteen years ago)

They are, and I do, but I have to admit it's nice for out-of-print stuff.

muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 02:16 (fifteen years ago)

"sponsored screensavers"

lol PUSH.

I used Opera when the free version came with ads. I just pinned winamp over them.

jay lenonononono (abanana), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 02:49 (fifteen years ago)

Re: those table of contents, it can be a tedious pain in the ass to encode those TOCs - it's ridiculous that so many publishers aren't doing it properly

gbx you actually can totally do it yourself! I do 90% of the work in text editors. But you have to ask yourself if it's worth the hours of time you'll spend learning to write .NCX files and compiling .mobis with Kindlegen. Though in short, as you guessed you put in the anchors in HTML and then edit the .NCX file (just a strict XHTML doctype) and that's it, followed by compile.

Nhex, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 03:03 (fifteen years ago)

"I am compiling my latest novel"

You Say Various Things (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 03:08 (fifteen years ago)

lol

the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 10:01 (fifteen years ago)

The more I hear people bang on about kindles, the more I think I fucked up by getting a sony reader, even tho I do love it and think it's awesome. The lack of wifi fills me with jealousy. And it suffers even worse than the kindle in the makes-you-look-a-twat stakes.

Yossarian's sense of humour (NotEnough), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 10:24 (fifteen years ago)

Don't get a Kindle unless the Sony is actively pissing you off. Everything I've ever heard about the Sonys is positive.

You Say Various Things (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 10:29 (fifteen years ago)

they're nice but I really appreciate how light the kindle is

forest zombie (Vasco da Gama), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

The touchscreen on the sony is just responsive enough - you need to press down reasonably hard to swipe the page over, which makes it feel a lot more tactile than it might do otherwise. And I appreciate the built in dictionary and the little stylus. It just seems like a secondary cousin to the kindle, but yeh, I'm not gonna trade in, it does the job it needs to do quite well I guess.

Yossarian's sense of humour (NotEnough), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

I wonder if there will ever be the equivalent to the hardcover/paperback edtions of e-books in terms of pricing? Something like $15 for new books, then a year or so after it's released, the price comes down to around 7-8 dollars. I don't own an e-reader so maybe this already happens, but after spending an hour or so perusing Amazon's e-book selection, it seemed that most of the books I would buy cost between 10-15 dollars (even books that are 7-8 dollars, new, for the paperback!). It's seems crazy for me to spend 140 dollars on a device so that I can turn around and spend more money on books, especially if the books are DRM-coded.

musicfanatic, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

I mean, I don't travel that much, and when I do, bringing 2-3 paperback books and a magazine or two is more than enough for me to read on airplane trips. Maybe if my job required heavy traveling I'd find these devices more enticing.

musicfanatic, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 19:43 (fifteen years ago)

I thought both those things before I had one - I don't travel much or have a commute, and spending money for the opportunity to spend money wasn't appealing - but when I unexpectedly got a Kindle for Christmas, I'd downloaded well over $140 worth of public domain books by the end of the day.

I haven't decided if I think it's worth its current price - that was the nice thing about getting it as a gift, I didn't have to worry about that - and Kindle ebooks are going to have to come down in price relative to "real" books. I mean, one reason I hadn't bought a Kindle already is because when I checked the books then on my wishlist, not only were few of them available, a large number of the ones that were were priced higher for the Kindle than in paperback. The paperless version should always be cheapest. I can't give it to friends when I'm done, I can't sell it to Powells (no one local buys used books anymore), it's harder to flip through it if it's something I'm using for work - whatever the behind the curtain reasons affecting the price, I'm still paying a couple bucks more for something I'm getting less out of.

Bill, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 20:35 (fifteen years ago)

Not to mention the percentage of unsold SKUs that just doesn't exist with ebooks. Publishers have treated ebooks as an excuse to charge more for books. They seem to think it's worth fucking with while the format's in its infancy. What they don't realise (impossibly) is that people are so disgusted they're either withholding purchases altogether or just straight-up nicking them off the internet. And then there's people like us here in a non-elite country who are not allowed to buy some books because the publisher has arbitrarily said no, despite us waving money at them.

Travel. If you're in the US you probably have a 32 kg baggage limit, even on international flights. When we fly internationally we're restricted to 20 kg (unless we're going to the US). The difference is a lot of books. My Kobo saved my sanity last year.

You Say Various Things (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:08 (fifteen years ago)

...what I meant to say is that publishers don't realise people are increasingly learning how to get ebooks off the darknet due to the high prices, just like they did with music, movies etc.

You Say Various Things (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

If publishers provided ebook tokens with hardbacks like movies do w/blu ray I'd buy way more of them, for certain.

stet, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 23:47 (fifteen years ago)

The travel thing cannot be underestimated imo. Not just from the intl travel aspect, but from the commuter aspect as well.

I think a kindle wouldve been rad as an undergrad English major.

FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 00:01 (fifteen years ago)


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