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Back away from the internets! This way madness lies.

I mean, even I'm going to stop watching videos of pointy nosed ginger haired drummers and go to bed now.

Honest.

Just one more...

NO!

The Lesser of Two Weevils (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 14 September 2008 21:52 (seventeen years ago)

oh oh oh, nsfw very much NSFW drummers!

I know, right?, Sunday, 14 September 2008 21:56 (seventeen years ago)

If I was at work at 11pm on a Sunday, I'd shoot myself.

I really hope that isn't something horrible. (Am I in bed yet? No, I am still looking at pictures.)

The Lesser of Two Weevils (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 14 September 2008 22:00 (seventeen years ago)

good if you like ginger drummers!

I know, right?, Sunday, 14 September 2008 22:01 (seventeen years ago)

Um. WOW!!!!

OK, that was nice.

I think I may have seen that mag before. Perhaps Miss AMP had a copy lying around the flat?

Or maybe she had a straight girl version thereof. (If such a thing existed, she would own it.)

The Lesser of Two Weevils (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 14 September 2008 22:03 (seventeen years ago)

OK, I'm awake now. Thanks.

The Lesser of Two Weevils (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 14 September 2008 22:04 (seventeen years ago)

Zizek is a clown, at best

the pinefox, Sunday, 14 September 2008 22:13 (seventeen years ago)

No he's not, have the decency to at least provide some basis to your slurs.

I know, right?, Sunday, 14 September 2008 22:15 (seventeen years ago)

Zizek is lots of fun. Have you read his piece on the Sound of Music?

Mordy, Sunday, 14 September 2008 22:15 (seventeen years ago)

want to, i've just seen him outline his theory briefly in interviews, like really briefly

decadent jewish nazis etc, it's pretty funny

I know, right?, Sunday, 14 September 2008 22:18 (seventeen years ago)

i like zizek and im with pinefox

sex viagra cialis hard teen firm wet tight sexy rod unit teens hole suck (max), Sunday, 14 September 2008 22:24 (seventeen years ago)

Yes! I knew it! Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Ampy's picture of Owen Pallett ass.

I knew I'd seen a copy of BUTT floating around at rehearsal:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ampnet/400005879/

(Though the magazine I was actually thinking of was Jungsheft (PORNO FÜR MÄDCHEN)

The World's Forgotten Girl (Masonic Boom), Monday, 15 September 2008 22:07 (seventeen years ago)

Who is he?

the pinefox, Monday, 15 September 2008 22:43 (seventeen years ago)

Oh yeah, that whole shoot was so so ew....

I know, right?, Monday, 15 September 2008 23:33 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

There is something wrong with this woman. (http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/11/12/palin/):

In the closing weeks of the election, however, I became increasingly disturbed by the mainstream media's avoidance of forthright dealing with several controversies that had been dogging Obama -- even as every flimsy rumor about Sarah Palin was being trumpeted as if it were engraved in stone on Mount Sinai. For example, I had thought for many months that the flap over Obama's birth certificate was a tempest in a teapot. But simple questions about the certificate were never resolved to my satisfaction. Thanks to their own blathering, fanatical overkill, of course, the right-wing challenges to the birth certificate never gained traction.

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 22:23 (seventeen years ago)

I like Sarah Palin, and I've heartily enjoyed her arrival on the national stage. As a career classroom teacher, I can see how smart she is -- and quite frankly, I think the people who don't see it are the stupid ones, wrapped in the fuzzy mummy-gauze of their own worn-out partisan dogma. So she doesn't speak the King's English -- big whoop! There is a powerful clarity of consciousness in her eyes. She uses language with the jumps, breaks and rippling momentum of a be-bop saxophonist. I stand on what I said (as a staunch pro-choice advocate) in my last two columns -- that Palin as a pro-life wife, mother and ambitious professional represents the next big shift in feminism. Pro-life women will save feminism by expanding it, particularly into the more traditional Third World.

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 22:25 (seventeen years ago)

There is a powerful clarity of consciousness in her eyes. She uses language with the jumps, breaks and rippling momentum of a be-bop saxophonist.

Dear Camille Paglia,

Fuck a bunch of you.

Sincerely,

Charlie Parker

Passenger 57 (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 22:31 (seventeen years ago)

haaa was waiting for that to come up

goole, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 22:31 (seventeen years ago)

xp that too, specifically

goole, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 22:31 (seventeen years ago)

Camille Paglia is the troll of feminist academia.

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 22:35 (seventeen years ago)

You know she just giggles every time someone gets upset by something she writes?

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 22:35 (seventeen years ago)

that bebop line is fucking hilarious

BIG HOOS' macaroni is off the motherfucking chain (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 22:41 (seventeen years ago)

hat bebop line is fucking hilariousridiculous.

^^ fixed.

ian, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 22:43 (seventeen years ago)

where is the thread where we list her infinite variations on the "as a ...." phrase

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 22:44 (seventeen years ago)

"as an unrepetant namecaller"

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 22:44 (seventeen years ago)

her and Hitchens should mate and produce some angry drunken contrarian antichrist

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 22:45 (seventeen years ago)

Dear Mordy, Camille Paglia is one of the greatest public intellectuals of all time. But you wouldn't know that. Try to step outside the confines of your little world where everybody who says things you disagree with is automatically a "troll".

Vision, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:35 (seventeen years ago)

^^ was waiting for that too

goole, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:41 (seventeen years ago)

Vision returns! How exciting. You really do stalk this board, don't you?

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:42 (seventeen years ago)

No, not really. As a matter of fact, last time I posted was sunday or the early hours on monday, if I'm not mistaken.

Vision, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:43 (seventeen years ago)

Dear Mordy, Camille Paglia is one of the greatest public intellectuals of all time. But you wouldn't know that.

Dearest Vision, I would not know that. Perhaps you can offer me some well-thought out remarks about D-A gender struggle and Paglia's brilliant contribution to the role of gender in society. It will likely help me rethink my condemnations of this clearly precious woman. She may be a national treasure and I have besmirched her name in an online forum. Alas.

Sincerely,
Your Dearest Mordy

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:43 (seventeen years ago)

Though, for all of you following at home, I'd like to point something out:

As a career classroom teacher, I can see how smart she is -- and quite frankly, I think the people who don't see it are the stupid ones,

Try to step outside the confines of your little world where everybody who says things you disagree with is automatically a "troll".

This is what I was writing about the last go around. Paglia cultivates this flippant, alienating contrarianism in her writing and her students all adopt it to a man. The first quote was written in Paglia's piece and the second by Vision. They are practically the same sentence. (Of course, if Vision is a sockpuppet, as I suspect, then kudos. Very well done there.)

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:46 (seventeen years ago)

1. sarah palin is really smart, and people who do not think she is smart, are stupid and also blinkered by dogma

2. the way sarah palin talks is not incoherent, it's like jazz.

3. people who are have been and will be hostile to any of feminism's goals are the future of femisim

great public intellectuallizing at work

goole, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:47 (seventeen years ago)

sp 2nd feminism there

goole, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:48 (seventeen years ago)

This was a great article: http://www.slate.com/id/2201158/

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:50 (seventeen years ago)

http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/122953/2180638/2201304/081001_GW_sentenceDiagram.gif

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:50 (seventeen years ago)

http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/122953/2180638/2201304/081001_GW_sentenceDiagram2.gif

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:51 (seventeen years ago)

I will say two things Mordy:

-read her essay "No Law in the Arena; then read her short book of Hitchcock's "The Birds"; then read the first chapter of "Sexual Personae"; and
-keep this in mind ALWAYS: your liberal teachers may not have your best social and intellectual interest in mind.

Vision, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:51 (seventeen years ago)

Hey kiddo, I've read all of Sexual Personae.

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:51 (seventeen years ago)

I will say one thing:

the chili i just had, did not have my best gastrointestinal interest in mind

goole, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:52 (seventeen years ago)

keep this in mind ALWAYS: your liberal teachers may not have your best social and intellectual interest in mind.

You know this is asinine, right? It exposes that you're an undergraduate (or precocious high school student), since you assume everyone who is reading Paglia has liberal professors swaying them.

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:53 (seventeen years ago)

I'm going to list possibilities in order of most probable to least probable:

1. Sock-Puppet
2. Precocious High Schooler
3. Troll
4. Undergraduate Student
5. Adult

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:54 (seventeen years ago)

I read Paglia on my own. No professor I ever took a class from was enough of an idiot to have her on the reading list.

but DNFTT and all that

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:54 (seventeen years ago)

I never took a college course on Feminist theory. I read that stuff on my own. So no professor was whispering in my ear, "Wolfe is good. Beauvoir is good. Paglia is bad." I realized that on my own.

Mordy, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:57 (seventeen years ago)

No.I assume most people remain attached to the prejudices, guilt trips and tunnel vision inflicted upon them by their liberal teachers in college (and sometimes high school).

People who attack Paglia in academia have an agenda: to salvage their very fragile reputations, which they pulverized by reading and being deluded by fakers and frauds such as Lacan and Derrida.

Vision, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:57 (seventeen years ago)

yes, nobody gets the credibility from college kids like the FACULTY!! man those kids will follow them into anything, all kinds of crazy things like loving DH Lawrence and hating capitalism and stuff

hating the 'liberal professoriat' is one the oldest and lamest trick in the contrarian book. even if you believe the universities are some kind of indoctrination camp system you'd have to admit they are really shitty at it. still plenty of conservatives around, with college degrees even!

goole, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:58 (seventeen years ago)

xp wait, so, have you only ever read one book?

I know, right?, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:59 (seventeen years ago)

Shakey, that's also my point: liberal teachers often try to bowdlerize their reading lists by not including anything by Paglia.

Vision, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:00 (seventeen years ago)

assuming a very personal motive to people to don't like your favorite icon is cute too.

lacan is some bs but derrida has some goods

goole, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:00 (seventeen years ago)

You know, when I was in high school, I once picked a fight with someone about some literary topic or another on a forum. (Not this forum, another one.) And I thought I was really clever, marshaling quotes from various writers and arguing passionately for my position which I strongly felt to be the correct one. Years later I reread that forum and was humiliated by my lack of knowledge. I really sounded like a teenager (of course, I was one). I did many of the things Vision does here. I lodged personal attacks instead of offering proofs, and when I offered proofs, they tended to be poorly thought out and poorly developed.

Which is to say: Vision, I totally understand the tragic temptation of internet arguing for high schoolers. And: Paglia still writes like I did when I was in high school.

Mordy, Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:00 (seventeen years ago)


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