DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

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Guess the Century or what?

Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 April 2011 11:20 (fifteen years ago)

that is amazing

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 April 2011 11:22 (fifteen years ago)

"I'll see thy 'praise my locality' and I'll raise yer a "our good lord jesus christ""

Will he fold, or will he raise a "MargThatch" reference?

Mark G, Thursday, 7 April 2011 11:26 (fifteen years ago)

When we see the Union flag, we want to think, "That's a best bit of British beef." We do not want to think that it has possibly come from Kobe, where the beef used to be very good and delicious, but which we might now worry was becoming radioactive. We need to know what it is, and what is in it. If it has come from Kobe via some European country and we are not being told, that must be to the disadvantage of the British consumer when they go out to do the weekly shopping.
Goddamn shitty foreign nuclear muck.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 7 April 2011 11:27 (fifteen years ago)

mmmmm you can really taste the CJD num num num

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 April 2011 11:28 (fifteen years ago)

http://gb.fotolibra.com/images/thumbnails/366862-union-flag.jpeg
"That's a best bit of British beef."

Mark G, Thursday, 7 April 2011 11:30 (fifteen years ago)

sonned by a jap kid over a radioactive beef

Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Thursday, 7 April 2011 11:56 (fifteen years ago)

feed me a gummer burger

Republicans voiced concern about young pages hearing the word uterus (stevie), Thursday, 7 April 2011 20:52 (fifteen years ago)

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/52099000/jpg/_52099592_011695320-1.jpg

"Hi, just thought I'd give the Tory bloggers another chance to run out the 'Prime Mentalist' gags for old times' sake."

James Mitchell, Monday, 11 April 2011 08:34 (fifteen years ago)

Interesting story: Clegg adviser threatens to quit over NHS shake-up

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 11 April 2011 08:36 (fifteen years ago)

Think the Coalition might need some treatment for that Achilles Heel?

Suggest going private?

It's all very well saying "radical reorganisation of the NHS is needed" but no-one actually said that in the General Election campaign, did they?

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 11 April 2011 11:49 (fifteen years ago)

Of course not - no-one would vote for them if they said that, silly.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 11 April 2011 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13047890

Clegg collared by that "bigoted woman" - wonder who set that up.

death, taxes and (onimo), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 12:07 (fifteen years ago)

"It's gone wrong," she said, "Let's face it, it's all gone wrong."

Yossarian's sense of humour (NotEnough), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 13:22 (fifteen years ago)

It's good but it's not "Where are they flocking from?"

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 13:23 (fifteen years ago)

"These Polish people, where do they all come from?"

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 13:26 (fifteen years ago)

Mummy, keep me away from the scary nurses. What a shitebag.

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 08:25 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13063285

Aaaaaaaaaah gutted.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 11:28 (fifteen years ago)

Some 96% of 497 delegates at the Royal College of Nursing conference backed a motion questioning Andrew Lansley's handling of NHS reforms in England.

LOL

Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 11:31 (fifteen years ago)

Mr Clegg said his late grandfather Hugh Clegg, a GP who edited the British Medical Journal, would have approved of the NHS reforms.

He told the charities: "I reckon that he would have recognised a lot of what we're talking about.

"The NHS was always supposed to be a service which is quite diverse, which involves communities, which involves people like you, which draws on the community and volunteering spirit.

"And in many ways I think we're almost trying to return some of what to do with the NHS to some of its original aspirations.

"This is not a revolution we're introducing, it's an evolution of trends and principles that have been in the NHS from its very foundations.

Obviously cuntitude skips a generation in the Clegg family.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 12:23 (fifteen years ago)

Well most of the doctors had to be blackmailed and threatened into the NHS in the first place iirc

cockroach shakespeare (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 12:27 (fifteen years ago)

Isn't the basic plan "give all the budgets to the GPs" ?

No wonder Clegg GP would have approved...

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 12:30 (fifteen years ago)

people like you somehow doesn't quite have the right man-of-the-people ring to it

your LiveJournal experience (schlump), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 12:37 (fifteen years ago)

...and plenty of doctors left the UK after the war to do research in the US because the NHS was primarily about palliative care.

a modest broposal (suzy), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 12:39 (fifteen years ago)

volunteering spirit

o_O

re that, this is from last year but it's still good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty3Tlf4Th8U

jed_, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 12:44 (fifteen years ago)

If you plan to reduce the number of migrants coming to the UK, maybe stop bombing places? Think we did this already with Blair iirc.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 14 April 2011 07:52 (fifteen years ago)

don't recall blair bombing poland tbh

Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Thursday, 14 April 2011 08:19 (fifteen years ago)

would have needed the builders otherwise?

Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Thursday, 14 April 2011 08:20 (fifteen years ago)

iirc the 'line' on libya was that it was done to stop migration...

a random quote of mine abt a shitty rapper (history mayne), Thursday, 14 April 2011 08:23 (fifteen years ago)

The 'immigrants should learn English' stuff really grates - it's already a requirement for a visa for almost anyone coming from outside the EU. Even if you're married to a UK citizen, you need to be able to prove with a secure English language test, that you can speak / understand elementary English. The way the system was introduced was monumentally cack-handed, though. Immigrants wanting a Spouse visa need a test that meets certain minimum standards of reliability and security. All of the tests approved by the UKBA are either unsuitable, limited in their international availability or require an extremely lengthy wait for booking / results.

English-language learning programmes for immigrants already here have been cut to the bone at the same time.

I LOVE BELARUS (ShariVari), Thursday, 14 April 2011 08:26 (fifteen years ago)

Things are going wrong when the BNP can accuse you of breathtaking cynicism on immigration policy.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 14 April 2011 10:16 (fifteen years ago)

Usually h8 the Daily Mash but 'Cameron to tackle rise of the BNP by doing exactly what they want' made me lol today.

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 April 2011 10:24 (fifteen years ago)

English-language learning programmes for immigrants already here have been cut to the bone at the same time

Yes, the government seems particularly idiotic in this area. "We'll make them speak English and we'll do this by making sure none of them get English lessons."

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 14 April 2011 10:30 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah the Daily Mash seems to have been getting increasingly right wing lately but that one was pretty good (xp)

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 14 April 2011 12:49 (fifteen years ago)

Government reaches sell-by date

James Mitchell, Sunday, 17 April 2011 06:57 (fifteen years ago)

I'm sure this was the last govs idea.

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Sunday, 17 April 2011 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

some people seem to be complete idiots about "Best Before" dates so it could probly use a shake-up. Or improving basic standards of education, either way really.

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 April 2011 19:37 (fifteen years ago)

So we can control both legal and illegal immigration as I hope I've demonstrated. What is required is political will and the drive to make sure this agenda runs right across government. But the third argument put forward by those who say we can't control immigration is that immigration is not just a problem of supply but of demand.

Put simply, immigration will always be high because British people won't do the jobs migrant workers do. We've all heard this argument. I can see why this argument is made. Since 1997, the number of people in work in our economy has gone up by some 2.5 million.

And of this increase, around seventy-five percent was accounted for by foreign born workers, many of whom were employed to clean offices, serve in restaurants or work on building sites.

At the same time we have had persistently, eye-wateringly high numbers of British born people stuck on welfare. But let's be clear about what our conclusions should be from this. This is not a case of 'immigrants coming over here and taking our jobs'. The fact is - except perhaps in the very short-term - there are not a fixed number of jobs in our economy.

If one hundred migrant workers come into the country, they don't simply displace job opportunities for a hundred British citizens. Of course they take up vacancies that are available, but they also come and create new wealth and new jobs.

The real issue is this: migrants are filling gaps in the labour market left wide open by a welfare system that for years has paid British people not to work. That's where the blame lies - at the door of our woeful welfare system, and the last government who comprehensively failed to reform it.

Bleedin' speech writers, coming over here and making a meal of it.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 April 2011 13:25 (fifteen years ago)

Where does that come from?

Matt DC, Monday, 18 April 2011 13:35 (fifteen years ago)

It's as if the choices made by employers don't even factor into their thinking.

Matt DC, Monday, 18 April 2011 13:36 (fifteen years ago)

subtext: employers favour the cheapest most compliant workers

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 April 2011 13:40 (fifteen years ago)

Matt DC - http://www.conservatives.com/News/Speeches/2011/04/David_Cameron_Good_immigration_not_mass_immigration.aspx

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 April 2011 13:41 (fifteen years ago)

It's so obvious that he doesn't actually believe this, I'm used to Cameron doing massive rhetorical contorsions but this is probably beyond him.

Matt DC, Monday, 18 April 2011 13:43 (fifteen years ago)

is there some poll-based reason why he's been courting racist twats for the last month? BNP tipped to do well in May?

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 April 2011 13:43 (fifteen years ago)

It's possible he fears that the working class racist twat vote will swing against him, either to the BNP/UKIP/English Democrats but also potentially back to Labour. Given the choice of businesses being able to employ cheap immigrants or more expensive British people I know fully well which side of the divide Cameron would sit on, every time.

Matt DC, Monday, 18 April 2011 13:46 (fifteen years ago)

"competitive labour market" being a Tory mantra and all

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 April 2011 13:47 (fifteen years ago)

Of course the long game is that if you make life so shit for the British unemployed that they'll do anything, you won't need as many immigrants in the first place.

Matt DC, Monday, 18 April 2011 13:48 (fifteen years ago)

oh i'm sure they would prefer UK citizens to work for shit money with no rights but that game is probably shut down as an option now, no reasonable sized employer worth his party membership gives a fuck where his cheap labour comes from and i'm sure Cam'ron doesn't either really

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 April 2011 13:49 (fifteen years ago)

Being as the man has never had a job that wasn't arranged for him, I think he probably does actually believe this crap! Remember, this is a guy who thinks he's got street cred for talking to shopkeepers and market traders in Edgy Ladbroke Grove.

For compliant, read 'easily intimidated and unaware of their rights due to being fresh off the boat', not to mention the casualization of jobs that used to come with pensions, salaries and employment rights. Yes, I really love that my block's caretaker is going to be replaced by some random sweep from Veolia - despite the fact that nobody who actually pays for our caretaker wants this to happen.

a modest broposal (suzy), Monday, 18 April 2011 13:50 (fifteen years ago)

xp

cept obviously he's a PR goon so he doesn't know/care fuck all about manufacturing sector and other anachronisms

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 April 2011 13:50 (fifteen years ago)


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