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yeah whoa this ep was pretty much half sex/nakedness w/ biting/hitting!

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

i have also immitated the newsreader. it is fun.

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 01:05 (nineteen years ago)

If it's Gene Hunt you're after, you won't be disappointed.
That is exactly what I'm looking for. Gene Hunt and Sam Tyler are my favorite brains and brawn team ever after Titus Pullo and Lucius Vorenus, although right now it's a distant second.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

i have also immitated the newsreader. it is fun.

rrrobyn on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:05 PM (26 minutes ago)

i did today

― s1ocki, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

I have not imitated the newsreader until now, but I'm thinking I might start, if you guys are all doing it. It sounds cool.

― accentmonkey, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 08:08 (nineteen years ago)

I think you all should form a chorus line of gesticulating newsreaders and then speak-sing "Roundabout" in his voice.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/7c6/a88/7c6a88c0-37b0-4143-ae02-f5f5bf8c3ce4.medium
We've had this date coming for a long a time

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 25 March 2007 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

Stop it! It's too sad.

― accentmonkey, Sunday, 25 March 2007 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

:( :(

― rrrobyn, Sunday, 25 March 2007 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

And that's all she wrote.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 March 2007 02:38 (nineteen years ago)

I think they bowed out very gracefully

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 March 2007 02:55 (nineteen years ago)

Twice as sad to see it go after that episode - it had all the details this season has been missing as the show crossed through time and space. Antony & Cleo domestic drama, Antony & Vorenus commiseration, Vorenus & Pullo, Atia regaining first-season form w/ Livia - all brilliant.

― milo z, Monday, 26 March 2007 05:46 (nineteen years ago)

RIP BESTEST SHOW ON TV

― marmotwolof, Monday, 26 March 2007 05:49 (nineteen years ago)

"Define good..."

― milo z, Monday, 26 March 2007 05:49 (nineteen years ago)

"She said I had a rotten soul."
"..."

― marmotwolof, Monday, 26 March 2007 06:12 (nineteen years ago)

Was Antony quoting Joe Pesci in Goodfellas near the end there? Or maybe Joe was quoting Antony all along. It seems that there is an audiobook out there of Antony and Cleopatra with, um, Ciaran Hinds as Antony.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 March 2007 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

Attia vs. Livia at the triumph was delicious.

― Michael White, Monday, 26 March 2007 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

any way to cure a hangover

― Gukbe, Monday, 26 March 2007 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha! That was a good line.

― Michael White, Monday, 26 March 2007 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

Looks like Kevin McKidd is going to be in a time-travel cop show!

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 March 2007 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

ah, sigh. that was good, damn good. and lots of great lines, yeah. haha "define good"

i know they went out well, and it is 'just tv,' - no, screw that, it is an example of what tv drama should be more of - but am still very sad that it's over.

― rrrobyn, Monday, 26 March 2007 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

also, was genuinely afraid of octavian and his scary determined calculating face esp in scene with cleopatra and parade scene at the end - and that he realizes his sadism yet believes himself to be fair and just, fighting for the people, etc. makes it that much more scary. oh, it's rich.

― rrrobyn, Monday, 26 March 2007 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

I like to imitate the newsreader! But it falls flat for the many people who have not seen "Rome".

I wish it had been a full two hours - a more fitting send-off, really.
My significant other has not watched any of this season, so I'll enjoy watching the whole thing On Demand with him on some rainy day off in the next few weeks. (We tend to be gluttons, and watched the entire FIRST season on DVD in one weekend, before we got HBO.)
The great part about watching it again (which I did with the first season anyway, just to get the nuances), is truly appreciating the subtleties - not only in the plot(s), but all of the sets and the minor character interactions. it's such a design oriented show, I will actually enjoy watching it a few times more.
I am, of course, shockingly ignorant about this period in history, and had only basic knowledge of the plot!
So...that's a little bit embarassing.

I'll just start an "Embarassing things you never knew about history thread", or something.

― aimurchie, Monday, 26 March 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

haha, yeah, i'd forgotten most of the history i knew and ended up calling a friend of mine (who is more schooled in roman history) after, like, every ep in the 1st season. uh, which i also watched in abt 4 days...

otm about design - yeah, i totally watch it all again, hopefully with someone/people i've gone on and on about the show to (it seems to take my friends ages to give in to tv shows. e.g., a close friend finally watched the battlestar miniseries and is hooked now and all "omg you were right! it is so amazing! i can't believe i took this long to watch it! blah blah blah")

still in tv love with pullo

― rrrobyn, Monday, 26 March 2007 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

this turned out to be a really great series. what an excellent season this was—so tight, not a moment wasted, pure wonderful plot. almost made me forget i missed ciaran hinds and the weird doogie howser switch-out halfway through. marc anthony's progressive degradation, leading up to the wastrel punk rock couple he made with cleopatra, was amazing. that dude (forget the actor's name) really did a heck of a job.

― s1ocki, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

James Purefoy is his name - or something like that. You're right - he was wonderful. God, I just watched the last episode and I'm so sad it's over!

― ENBB, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 01:34 (nineteen years ago)

haha they were a druggie punk rock couple!

― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 01:37 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, James Purefoy thirded. His portrayal went from being this rogue who was charming-to-many-but-not-to-me to being this Hollywood-Babylon-Alexandria tragic beautiful-corpse burnt-out-but-still-glowing-in-an-ember-or-two talent- Marc Antony, what happened?

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 01:42 (nineteen years ago)

He went from being George Sanders to Edie Sedgwick.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 01:55 (nineteen years ago)

his performance in the scene (a couple eps back) where octavian basically blackmails him into exile, the way his pride crumbles and you see him just... break was really impressive.

― s1ocki, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, exactly. He saved up a lot of stuff for the very end.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 02:10 (nineteen years ago)

in a way the series as a whole is as much about him as it is about varenus & pullo.

― s1ocki, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 02:15 (nineteen years ago)

btw i thought of a quote if hbo were to ever approach me for something to put on the season 2 dvd packaging:

"Purefoy is pure fun!"

― s1ocki, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 02:17 (nineteen years ago)

"I would have sex with all of this Cleopatra!" — Marmotwolof

― s1ocki, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 02:17 (nineteen years ago)

about octavian, upthread:

I can't believe he's only supposed to be 11 in this series! They really should have gotten someone younger to play the role, it would have made his callousness really stand out.

teeny (teeny) on Monday, August 29, 2005 3:43 PM (1 year ago)

Oh, yeah, that role would have made much more sense with an 11 year old! They made an oopsy with that casting.

Casuistry (Chris Piuma) on Monday, August 29, 2005 4:47 PM (1 year ago)

IRONIC MUCH?

― s1ocki, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe the show would have done better if he had been named Rocktavian.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 02:25 (nineteen years ago)

Luscious Vorenus? Intravorenus de milo?

― Gukbe, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...

Looks like Kevin McKidd is going to be in a time-travel cop show!
Looks like this is starting next week.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

twelve years pass...

Watching a few episodes of this every week with s friend in the US and somehow, even though I often think of it as my favourite show ever, I’d forgotten how good it is. Well, at least the first series remains perfect. I spent a lot of time just admiring the attention to detail in costumes and the set (and cursing that the latter burned down), the cast is perfection and it’s just incredibly entertaining at all points.

Lots of people will say that it never really was as good after Caesar was killed off, but I personally love deranged s2 Vorenus and sadistic adult Augustus a lot. My actual series favourite is Mark Antony, not least because James Purefoy plays him with a sort of dissipated vibe and is a massive ride while doing so.

Watching it in 2020, it’s difficult for me not to agree with the cast who thought that GOT got the funding and promo it should have had. Superb and over before its time.

― caută tu singur (gyac), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 10:41 (five years ago)

OTM. All time. One of my favorite ever TV series.

― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 12:17 (five years ago)

one month passes...

Finished rewatching this yesterday, and had completely forgotten the ambiguity over Vorenus’s death. I mean, he survived injury and being pulled in a cart by Pullo for a month only to then die? Don’t buy it, he’s as dead as Caesarion. Unfortunately due to the set burning down we’ll never know. :(

Also, degenerate Mark Antony in eyeliner with the snake tattoo around his nipple is extremely weirdly hot, still.

S2 is a bit lacklustre in comparison to 1 but there’s still so much I loved this time round again. I was interested to read that Antony being considered to have taken up local customs when he was in Egypt was a scandal irl as well.

― scampo italiano (gyac), Monday, 21 September 2020 17:55 (five years ago)

The eyeliner is not a huge stretch. Both men and women in the Egyptian ruling class wore kohl. Antonius would have seen this as part of his power moves to rule Rome by capturing control of Egypt.

The snake tattoo is just Hollywood razzle-dazzle. Tattoos appear to have arrived in Europe around 1500 CE. If the Romans knew about them at all, it would have been via Scythian slaves and the Roman senatorial class would have shunned them comprehensively as a disfiguring and barbaric blemish, more like a cattle brand than an adornment.

― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 21 September 2020 18:16 (five years ago)

aye the Romans used tattoos to brand prisoners of war and criminals so would have looked down on them, and it was pretty otm of them say I with no tats!

― calzino, Monday, 21 September 2020 18:43 (five years ago)

well the Romans of that era I should have posted.

― calzino, Monday, 21 September 2020 18:45 (five years ago)

something like nine centuries later the Holy Roman Empire starting using tats on soldiers i think.

― calzino, Monday, 21 September 2020 18:48 (five years ago)

Lads I think ye misunderstood my point about Antony’s tattoo.

― scampo italiano (gyac), Monday, 21 September 2020 19:04 (five years ago)

I was reading a Byzantine history book recently so I'm an egg spurt!

― calzino, Monday, 21 September 2020 19:06 (five years ago)

I think ye misunderstood my point about Antony’s tattoo.

oh, I think not. HBO knew what they were aiming for and it wasn't historic accuracy, but something a bit more, um... differently located.

― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 21 September 2020 19:13 (five years ago)

That was my point though?

― scampo italiano (gyac), Monday, 21 September 2020 19:15 (five years ago)

funny thing is, the eyeliner could have been true to life. at least when he was in Egypt.

― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, 21 September 2020 19:18 (five years ago)

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