Doctor Who 2008: Sontarans cometh, RTD Ood 'ave 'im etc.

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They were always the most boring aliens. Apart from looking like potatoes, all they did was bang on about war. So did the Daleks, and they were boring too, but at least they were scary in some way.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 17 April 2008 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

That's probably my favourite aspect of this incarnation, the contrast between the character's jovial, clowning side and ruthless, wrathful side. Has this distinction been as stark in any previous Doctor?

7, no doubt.

HI DERE, Thursday, 17 April 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Apart from looking like potatoes, all they did was bang on about war. So did the Daleks

guess what's gonna happen

blueski, Thursday, 17 April 2008 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I always hated the Sontarans.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 17 April 2008 21:40 (sixteen years ago) link

guess what's gonna happen

NO. No!

Nhex, Thursday, 17 April 2008 22:04 (sixteen years ago) link

NO NO NO NO NO OH GOD

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 17 April 2008 22:31 (sixteen years ago) link

i 100% support Who enemies battling each other.

blueski, Thursday, 17 April 2008 22:53 (sixteen years ago) link

or rather:

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5188/drwhotoysbigoc1.jpg

kingfish, Friday, 18 April 2008 05:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I quite want the Tom one.

chap, Friday, 18 April 2008 10:23 (sixteen years ago) link

I love the story about the BBC costume person being given a bunch of yarn to knit that scarf with, and not understanding that she wasn't expected to use the ENTIRE thing of yarn.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 18 April 2008 10:38 (sixteen years ago) link

As if I'm not already a big enough spod:

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj58/vzbx/dwbooks.jpg

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 19 April 2008 00:57 (sixteen years ago) link

NOTE THE PRESENCE OF HUMAN NATURE AND DAMAGED GOODS AND HAPPY ENDINGS

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 19 April 2008 00:57 (sixteen years ago) link

What's on the top shelf? And are all of these novels, or are there any DVDs in there? And what the heck's a spod?

Nhex, Saturday, 19 April 2008 01:29 (sixteen years ago) link

And what were you measuring with the tape-measure? An extra-long scarf?

James Morrison, Saturday, 19 April 2008 02:07 (sixteen years ago) link

All books. Top shelf is Virgin books. Tape measure because I only just assembled the bookshelf.

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 19 April 2008 04:27 (sixteen years ago) link

no target novels, no credibility

f. hazel, Saturday, 19 April 2008 09:40 (sixteen years ago) link

no target novels, no credibility

-- f. hazel, Saturday, 19 April 2008 19:40 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

five (not pictured)

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 19 April 2008 11:16 (sixteen years ago) link

also lol I get the scarf reference now

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 19 April 2008 11:16 (sixteen years ago) link

plenty of target novels(like, several dozen) available at local hueg city-block-sized bookshop.

if you want me to pick them up for you, lemme know

kingfish, Saturday, 19 April 2008 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link

So, what's this Jekyll show I'm hearing about?

kingfish, Saturday, 19 April 2008 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link

lol, Seeing I

HI DERE, Saturday, 19 April 2008 15:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I rather enjoyed that one, pretty soppy ending but there was a surprisingly high body count for an episoed that was transparently for the kiddies. First time in a series or so that I've missed Ecclestone though, he could have pulled off a tremendous speech of indignation in that one.

A few thoughts:

- Bees gone missing mentioned again
- What did the Ood mean when he said to the Doctor "your song too will end"? FORESHADOWING.
- Am I right in thinking that the Ood pretty much saved themselves and didn't really need the Doctor there in the first place?

Matt DC, Saturday, 19 April 2008 18:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Will people still find the Simpsons funny in 4126?

ailsa, Saturday, 19 April 2008 18:52 (sixteen years ago) link

A huge improvement on last week, plus it had someone falling into a giant brain.

DavidM, Saturday, 19 April 2008 19:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Am I right in thinking that the Ood pretty much saved themselves and didn't really need the Doctor there in the first place?

Yeah, he didn't do much at all. Certainly not enough to warrant such a send-off, I reckon the Ood are a bit free and loose with the compliments.

All in all it was a good un, though. Lord Percy was a fun pantomime baddie. There was a pricelessly awful bit of acting from Martha in the trailer for next week.

chap, Saturday, 19 April 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I hadn't noticed until this thread and now I can't think of a single way the Doctor actually helped. If the Ood want to be remembering non-Ood names they'd do better with the guy thrown into the brain. But anyway.

Gently pleased, I think. I liked the Ood being nice guys when SF has pretty much been powered since long before it had a name by suspicious anti-collectivist/communist allegories, yr identical masses of Borg or pod-people with no use for individual names (liked the Ood's farewell to combined Doctor-Donna entity; wd file Daleks or Cybermen here too except then there would be 60 posts about how they have ranks and/or names) as OH NO CRUSHING ASSIMILATION-DEATH BAD GUYS.

a passing spacecadet, Sunday, 20 April 2008 02:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought it was funny how the Ood turned out to be a bunch of Sigor Ros fans.

jel --, Sunday, 20 April 2008 09:09 (sixteen years ago) link

BAFTAs blurb in the Radio Times:

Graham Norton hosts the TV Baftas from the London Palladium as the cream of British TV talent is honoured. And Steven Moffat should win for writing Blink, so there.

Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 20 April 2008 09:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Two things I forgot to mention:
1. The Doctor being chased by the claw thing was one of the best action setpieces we've yet seen in nu-Who.
2. Are throwaway refs to Hartnell stories going to be a motif in this series? We had The Sensorites this week, and The Romans last week.

chap, Sunday, 20 April 2008 13:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Is this the first time the Doctor has been called upon to save an alien race from evil humans?

Matt DC, Sunday, 20 April 2008 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link

The Sensorites, which supposedly took place in the same solar system, had humans poisoning the titular alien race for reasons I can't recall. I can't think of any other examples that come close, but I'm far from the biggest Who expert around here.

chap, Sunday, 20 April 2008 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

"A huge improvement on last week" WTF?

many ppl said of the Ood that they were rip-off/tribute to the sensorites. so ref to sense-sphere was a sort of in-joke.

Alan, Sunday, 20 April 2008 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Ood struck me as more Lisa Gerrard/Liz Fraser than Sigor Ros. Not quite so nordic, but the exposed-brains-in-the-palms thing gives them quite a bit of preciousness

kingfish, Sunday, 20 April 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Will people still find the Simpsons funny in 4126?

Yes, just as people will still be called things like Jack and John in the 51st century.

James Morrison, Sunday, 20 April 2008 23:19 (sixteen years ago) link

When were the bees mentioned in 4x02? Missed that.

Brakhage, Monday, 21 April 2008 00:22 (sixteen years ago) link

'Your song too will end' means this is Tennant's last season, which I think we all knew anyway.

kingfish: Thanks for the offer but I'm not into the old Target novels.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 21 April 2008 00:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought he was supposed to be in the 3 2009 specials before the show comes back for the next series.

kingfish, Monday, 21 April 2008 02:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Probably. They're very good at keeping secrets, though.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 21 April 2008 02:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Anywho, here's the link to the local bookstore if anybody else wants to peruse. Their collection of licensed novels is a bit overwhelming, especially when you're there in person and it's an entire fucking aisle.

kingfish, Monday, 21 April 2008 02:54 (sixteen years ago) link

So, no one inspired to post by tonight's episode? Can't really blame you. liked the reimagining of the Sonatarans as slightly useless colonial sergeant major types, though.

chap, Sunday, 27 April 2008 01:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought it was pretty good, I liked the references to 70's U.N.I.T.

Jarlrmai, Sunday, 27 April 2008 01:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Nu sontarans less scary than Old sontarans.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/69/Sontaran.jpg
I used to be scared shitless by those fuckrs.

Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 27 April 2008 01:29 (sixteen years ago) link

But, yeah, the whole Colonel Blimp attitude was pretty good.

There was a pricelessly awful bit of acting from Martha in the trailer for next week.

This continued into this week.

Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 27 April 2008 01:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Nice to see a big Earth invasion, but plz at some point go to another planet, where the sky is green or something, I mean you can go ANYWHERE/WHEN.

Jarlrmai, Sunday, 27 April 2008 01:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I quite enjoyed this one. I hope cribbins doesn't die!

JimD, Sunday, 27 April 2008 01:55 (sixteen years ago) link

He's a gonner, greater good etc etc.

Jarlrmai, Sunday, 27 April 2008 02:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Alien planets = less emotional attachment = not right for the new show atm

Dull episode btw. Sontarans as crap as ever and predictable plot/plot devices/electrical-appliance-du-jour instrumental in destroying the world. Tennant and Tate got some good lines, though.

Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 27 April 2008 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link

True, satnav-is-evil was a bit weak. But the one that exploded, that was a good enough gag to make up for it.

JimD, Sunday, 27 April 2008 02:36 (sixteen years ago) link

plz at some point go to another planet

They were just on the Planet of the Ood last week, don't tell me they sprayed all that fake snow over a rock quarry and nobody noticed.

I've seen almost no old-school Who, but this morning my sister downloaded The Sontaran Experiment for us to watch before the new ep. Damn, those fuckers were terrifying. Nu-Sontarans lacked that grinning rubber clown-face quality that made them so scary.

reddening, Sunday, 27 April 2008 06:14 (sixteen years ago) link


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