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how much incidentally?

I'd rather buy european, but there's less at the lower end european wise.

Ed (dali), Friday, 15 April 2005 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Mine was £700 RRP (though I got a bit knocked off when I haggled) - but the Trek 1000 is largely the same bike with some of the components one level lower in quality, and it's £200 cheaper - in fact, test riding the Trek 1000 was what led me to want to buy that make in particular. Also, my colleague who commutes on her Trek 100 absolutely loves it.

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 15 April 2005 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Ed, when you get home R4nk4 might be able to add her two-penn'orth.

suzy (suzy), Friday, 15 April 2005 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Markelby, I think that your best time is shortly to be rendered history. Unless you've been mainlining lard pies I guess. Put the fucker in the big ring and ride it like you stole it! Erm, best watch out for the park-keeper though...

Ed, other x-bikes to look for are things like Fort or Kinesis Maxlights, they come frame & fork only and are at the cheaper end. Dead popular though. Bianchi do one a nice one for quite a few more quid, but it depends on how you feel about the famous Celeste green paintwork. The Planet-X Kaffenback (er, as in cafe-and-back) is quite a decent steel frame, but has clearance issues at the back. More of a winter training bike than strictly a cross thing.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 15 April 2005 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

i can totally see ed on a celeste green bike!

ed, is anyone coming to visit you from the states? my dad carried over a bike in a box for me as his luggage a couple summers ago, and wasn't stopped or asked any questions. i guess it was because he's got a US passport and was just visiting? dunno, i've never had my stuff looked at on the way in here, actually.

mark, glad to be helpful, don't forget to email me if you want me to bring anything back for you or sarah...i seem to remember promising something (a cheap seat? something else?) but can't quite remember what...

colette (a2lette), Friday, 15 April 2005 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)

No one programmed in just yet, but you never know. I could get Tracer to load up Emma B.

Eddy Merckx has something called an Alu cross, and i have always always since seeing a whole shop full of merckx bikes wanted an Eddy Merckx

Ed (dali), Friday, 15 April 2005 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Nick, it's okay, the path is open to bikes - best times have to be set on overcast, cool days, when the hordes of families (grr) slow you right down. I'm not sure I'll obliterate the record quite yet, mind - last year, my first ride o' the spring came in at a thoroughly depressing 38 minutes plus (I got it down to 31 minutes by September, which was a relief), and I haven't even tried it yet...

Colette, I think you promised me some pedals - something for everyday use, as I eventually did buy the bike with SPD pedals fitted and I'm still not yet sure if I want to keep them. Thanks again :)

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 15 April 2005 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

best times have to be set on overcast, cool days

Yep, you have to factor in atmospheric conditions when you're travelling those sorts of speeds. 'Slippery air' is where it's at. ;o)

Dunno much about Merckx bikes. The Belgians know their stuff though. If you're looking at posh ones, Pinarello and Pegoretti definitely do cross-frames, probably De Rosa too. They'd be my choice if I was absolutely loaded, might be overkill for what you're after though! Hunter pops up on ILM bike threads sometimes and needs to see this, cos he's probably the best guy to give you sensible advice.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 15 April 2005 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not looking at merckx bikes I'm dreaming. I've only found US pricing and it's a $1000 frame. Merckx is a name and a half.

Ed (dali), Friday, 15 April 2005 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha no, I just meant that when it's gloomy, the park is much emptier :)

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 15 April 2005 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Was just ribbing you, don't worry!

Ed, did some digging... this article is probably more helpful than me spouting hearsay out of my arse.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 15 April 2005 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

As the cycleheads are here I've got a problem with my Weinmann brakes in that they lock after being applied, instead of releasing. I suspect it's a fault in the brake handle somewhere.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 15 April 2005 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Brake lever = possible but unlikely.

More likely candidates = brake cable rusted inside outer sleeve or the pivot bolt/springs are rusted/siezed. I'd check that first.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 15 April 2005 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

my boyfriend just got a used lamond cyclocross & loves it. i ride a fixed gear, but i think that if i were going to pick out a geared bike, cyclocross is the way to go. nickb's comment up top says most of the reasons why i'd go that route.

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 15 April 2005 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Can we have a quick glossary of this thread, please?

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 15 April 2005 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I ride this thing to work every day:

http://www.raleighusa.com/images/items/cross/full/2005/05-Ral_C30-Blue_White-f.jpg

I know squat-all about bikes, except that I ride this one every day. I'd recommend it, except that I don't know if I could do better.

happy fun ball (kenan), Friday, 15 April 2005 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, except mine doesn't have those shocks. I hate those shocks.

happy fun ball (kenan), Friday, 15 April 2005 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Re bringing things in from the states - we brought a bbq back last week, in the original box just with tape to make a handle, and wheeled it through customs along with our three checked in cases and bulging hand luggage(with a psp each) and didn't even get looked at. I think they're just on the lookout for NYC label shoppers, there were people carrying through pc boxes and loads of other stuff.

Vicky (Vicky), Friday, 15 April 2005 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't even know there were Lemond bikes.

Ed (dali), Friday, 15 April 2005 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the shocks! Seriously, I would never go back now that I have them, and on the seat.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 15 April 2005 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never found them to be very effective. Besides, what, am I riding over boulders here in Chicago?

happy fun ball (kenan), Friday, 15 April 2005 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Rear shocks waste a ton of energy as well.

Ed (dali), Friday, 15 April 2005 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I testrode a bike with seat suspension and it felt to me like every time the suspension went into effect, I was putting less energy through the pedals. Does that make sense? It wasn't a good thing, anyway.

(I'm sued to a steel frame - should I be scared now that I've got an aluminium one?)

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 15 April 2005 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Another quick question - why is the tubing of the fram on my Trek so thick? Is this a good thing, a necessary thing, or just a style choice? (I think I prefer the thinnest tubing, aesthetically)

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 15 April 2005 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The one thing about suspension seatposts is that as they compress, it changes the distance from the seat to the peddles which feels a bit weird and takes a bit of getting used to. They can do a good job of softening a harsh ride though if your bike's a bit of a fanny-mangler over rough ground. Provided they're not cheap and crappy and set-up to function like a pogo stick that is.

Tubes on alu bikes have a larger diameter because the tube walls are made a lot thinner (and hence lighter). You need a larger tube to get the same strength.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 15 April 2005 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Evans have last years Jake frame for cheap so I may well go down the build my own route. All campag stuff works together right? Is this true right back into history, or just for certain periods? I think I'll buy new wheels and bottom bracket and second hand for the rest and replace as necessary; good plan?

Ed (dali), Friday, 15 April 2005 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

You can adjust the suspension on my bike, so you can adjust the amount of give you want depending on what terrain you ride on. My bike is mainly about comfort and transportation. I don't do much touring. Actually I don't do any, the longest rides are down the lakeshore and never more than 20 miles.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 15 April 2005 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

here's lemond's website: http://www.lemondbikes.com/home.shtml

here's my sweetness:

http://photos8.flickr.com/9487826_bb5609958e.jpg

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 15 April 2005 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd avoid campag if I were you. Seriously.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 15 April 2005 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Kelsey, that's lovely.

happy fun ball (kenan), Friday, 15 April 2005 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i am so in love with it right now.

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 15 April 2005 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Kelsey, have you thought of fitting brakes on that thing?

Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 15 April 2005 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i have one brake on the front wheel.

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 15 April 2005 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Why so pashmina?

Ed (dali), Friday, 15 April 2005 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)


If the brand Redline is available to you, the Conquest is very nice, I've raced the hell out of one for 5 years and it's still great.

The Kona's alright, but cyclocross rockists everywhere beg you to forego putting a triple on a cyclocross frame. It's too sad.

i have one brake on the front wheel.

I thought the correct answer was "brakes just slow you down"?

I don't know that the site's still feeding, but the video below will whet your appetite for some city riding, Ed.
http://www.digave.com/videos/red-web.mpg

Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 15 April 2005 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

eh. i'm not that hard core. does it count for anything if i only use it some of the time?
xpost

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 15 April 2005 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Kelsey, that bike is outrageously nice!

NickB (NickB), Friday, 15 April 2005 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

My goddamn bike:
http://www.bikes.com/bikes/2004/images/md_04_element_TSc.jpg

NickB (NickB), Friday, 15 April 2005 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks nick! it's actually on "permanent loan" from my bf. he bought it a couple years ago & recently realized the frame is too small for him. now he rides this fixed up miyata & i ride the bianchi. i have a crush on it!

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 15 April 2005 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i didn't mean to sound snotty. i was just taken aback because usually ed has good advice/answers and i value reading what he writes.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 15 April 2005 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Kelsey, thats a result and a half! The lines on that thing look so nice and clean without all that brake clutter. Your pedaling must be getting pretty smooth by now.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 15 April 2005 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i think riding fixed has made me a much better cyclist overall. you're more connected to the bike, you better anticipate traffic/doorings/pedestrians since you can't stop suddenly. now i just have to get some fancy clip-in shoes! plus, i read that riding fixed gear is "healthier" for you since you have to pedal all the time. bonus!

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 15 April 2005 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, you wouldnt get a lot of rest! I built up a crappy singlespeed with an old mtb frame and I love the direct feeling of riding that thing. Dont think Ive got storage space here for a fixy though worse luck.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 15 April 2005 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

my first fixie was on a mtb frame.
how do you like riding on that mtb?

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 15 April 2005 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I can withstand the courier mocking I will get for having a third ring, but then, I will have gears which is cause for mocking enough. I'm not fit enough not to have a third ring just yet.

Nick, you were all up for campag, pashmina says no. What should i do?

Ed (dali), Friday, 15 April 2005 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i heard they're good, for what it's worth.

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 15 April 2005 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

every bike I've ever had has had shimano bits, campagnolo sounds far more sexy and exotic.

Ed (dali), Friday, 15 April 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

supposedly, they are.

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 15 April 2005 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess what makes it a bit easier, is that if I get stuff from eBay, all campag stuff is road.

Ed (dali), Friday, 15 April 2005 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i just did a quick search on google for "campagnolo vs. shimano" & there are all these nerdy (but helpful) articles on the differences. ultimately, either is good. i think it mostly depends on your tastes.

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 15 April 2005 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I hear elbow fractures are very bad, have not done that.

Pain from broken bones, in descending order of pain:

Ribs (mtn bike crash)
fingers (hand into front wheel road race crash)
femur (mtn bike crash)
upper arm (fell down stairs as a kid)
toes (drunk)
wrist and ankle stuff (assorted)
collarbone (flag football collision)

I sound really fragile, the good thing is 1) none of these had much displacement except collarbone 2) I heal really fast. So far.

Hunter (Hunter), Thursday, 26 May 2005 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I've only done toes and ribs, I feel left out! I think this has everything to do with good fortune. Or maybe I'm just not trying hard enough...

Anyway, not a good subject to dwell on! I had to help some guy pick up the pieces of his bike out of the road last night on my way home. Didn't actually see it happen but I know he was only a couple of hundred yards down the road from me. He was going down a cycle lane and someone pulled a left right across him. His front wheel was a taco and he was rips, cuts and bruises all down one side, looked like he'd been through a chipper. In total shock too, poor bloke.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 27 May 2005 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)

He was going down a cycle lane and someone pulled a left right across him

All my bike accidents have been like this, all of the offending vehicles have been taxis.

Ed (dali), Friday, 27 May 2005 07:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Well there was a taxi involved, but only cos we phoned for one to come and pick him up (with strict instructions to him to get up the hospital later obv). Occupants of the car were two girls who looked about 17. Actually they looked a lot worse than the guy on the bike, hopefully it'll be a lesson learnt.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 27 May 2005 07:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Postman has just been but the accessories expected not in the morning's catch...

suzy (suzy), Friday, 27 May 2005 07:28 (twenty-one years ago)

They might come separately as they are special delivery I think.

Ed (dali), Friday, 27 May 2005 07:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Well in turned up, and I think I did well. The frame looks in good nick, maybe a couple of centimetres smaller than I would like but no complaints there, a couple of stone chips in the paint but nothing that exposes metal. Campagnolo Chorus throughout, 9 speed rear mech. Issues? the jockey wheels are really worn and the rear mech overshoots the lowest gear. The freewheel drags a little as well, I think a strip down and grease may well be in order.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Rowr, a strip-down and grease!

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Lucky Suzy :)

Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The rear mech overshooting problem appears to be caused by a bent rear derailleur cage. even with the limit screw fully in it overshoots and you can see that the limit screw isn't touching the body of the derailleur when it is fully pulled in. A longer machine screw would lock out the lowest gear for now. However still dead pleased; it is of course pissing with rain outside.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Ed, have you tried adjusting the cable tension? If you slacken it off a little then the mech wont pull towards the wheel so much. Give the barrel adjuster a half-turn or so clockwise to loosen up the cable a little. If the mech hanger is definitely bent, you should be able to bend it back again on a steel frame. Often if it is bent though, it will be slightly twisted and the chain wont sit right on any of the sprockets.

Doesnt it *always* start raining when you get a new bike?

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Closer inspection seems to reveal that the derailleur isn't sitting straight and flush with the mech hanger. It looks as if and some stage it has gone in off axis and possibly threaded the mech hanger. It's only a few degrees but it might well be enough to cause the interference. shouldn't be too difficult to get a spare and cheaper than a mechanical part.

the barrel adjuster is already at it's slackest. I could reset the cable tension from scratch I suppose.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 1 June 2005 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Fantastic, I was late for work because I rode off in the opposite direction and was having too much fun riding around.

Ed (dali), Thursday, 2 June 2005 07:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Congrats on the new bike Ed.

My experience with alignment probs agrees with this, it's almost always the hanger rather than the mech that's the problem.

OK, so when you're out practicing your victory antics, don't do this:

http://www.blennus.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=443&Itemid=

Hunter (Hunter), Thursday, 2 June 2005 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Help needed!

Me and Emma want to get some hybrid bikes; no off-road stuff, but mainly used for jaunts in countryside and occasional zipping about town.

We're looking at (in no order of preference):

- Kona (Smoke or Dew)
- Saracen
- Marin (Kentfield)

Notice that Raleighs and Giant seem to be much cheaper - are they any good? Is the low price because they're not seen as cool and groovy, or because they're not as good?

Main criteria - price (obv - given cost of all the other stuff needed like locks and helmet etc, no more than 300 quid for the bike, and obv, lower the better)

Lightness - we'll have to carry them up two flights of stairs with every use, so this is a factor.

We've been told that we should be aware of the quality of components; I'm all in favour of getting good stuff, but given the anticipated use (once/twice a week to be realistic), is there any need to spend more on super-duper compnents when pretty standard components will last a fair few years and be 50 quid cheaper?

We think we don't want suspension on forks or seats or anything like that. It seems to be a view supported by this thread in the main.

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 14 July 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

Dave, Which Bike (or whatever it's called) recently rated the Schwinn Sierra as exceptionally good value - Discount Bicycles have it for £207 right now in ladies and mens models:

http://www.discountbicycles.co.uk/biz/product.php?xProd=1336

http://www.discountbicycles.co.uk/biz/product.php?xProd=2003

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 14 July 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)

You might want to look at the Ridgeback Genesis Day which is a really nice hybrid tending to urban bike. The Kona dew is a good choice as well. The Claud Butler Chinook and Levante, look good on paper but I haven't seen them in the flesh. they are closer to being straight handle bared road bikes, than lightened mountain bikes.

For a Hybrid I would go with one that has 700c (road style) wheels rather than 26" (mountain style), either will work on both surfaces of course depending on tyre, but it sounds like your going to be on road more so you do better with 700c, less effort required for a given speed.

By countryside, Dave, do you mean country lanes or off-road?

Ed (dali), Friday, 15 July 2005 04:45 (twenty years ago)

TV's Dave, buy this bike:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2904&item=7168100549&rd=1&ssPageName=WD2V

Ed (dali), Friday, 15 July 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)

four weeks pass...
Revive!

I know pretty much nothing about bikes except that I would again like to own one after a few years without. Also, I hate to shop, so narrowed options will be very useful.

Here's the kind of riding I would be doing:

quincie, Friday, 12 August 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Oops--didn't mean to submit yet. . .

So, my riding:

*mostly pavement, maybe smooth trails once in a while. Mostly urban riding in downtown Washington, D.C.
*primarily errands and leisurely recreational rides--certainly not more that ten miles or so at a time.

What is most important to me:

*COMFORT! I don't want to go particularly fast or careen down rocky mountain paths, I just want to be comfy for my fairly short, start-and-stop rides. Good agility would seem to be important for urban riding, no?
*Something not too heavy would be nice, as I'll have to lug the thing up stairs and onto bus racks and down to the metro on occasion.
*Price. I'm pretty clueless about what it would cost to get something I'd love, but I'm not willing to go to four figures, that's for sure!

So, do I just walk into a bike shop and say "I want a comfort bike"? Or, "I want a hybrid" (do I?)? I'm pretty sure that I don't need either a mountain or a road bike. Now that I think about it, what is the difference between a comfort and a hybrid?

Thanks for any guidance you can offer. From the discussion above, it is clear that many ILXors can give good advice.

quincie, Friday, 12 August 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

eleven months pass...
1) my bike got stolen about a while back (when i lent it to a friend, (s)natch) and summertime has me fiending for a new one.

i had one of these in high school back when i used to live within riding distance of trails:
http://www.bayviewcycle.com/Bikes_Images/Trek2004/4900_Blk.jpg

i was thinking about bringing it back to nyc when i go home in a week, but this cost $500+ when i first got it and I put in another $100.. would it be crazy to leave this thing on the street? even if i put electrical tape or something around the body? it's a heavy-duty motherfucker, too. maybe a road bike would be better here.

2) i had a U-lock on the bike that got stolen. it's probably that my dumb-ass friend got drunk and left it unlocked, but would you have a bike in the city with just a u-lock? if not...

3) investing in a kryptonite bike chain? i guess you can get a used one for $50, but how much does it cost for a THICK chain and a BIG lock? is that feasible? i feel like i never see people with those.

4) i found a road bike in queens for $30. all it's missing are the brakes. can i just convert that into a fixed gear and skip the brakes if i get proper cogs for the pedals etc? (my bike dork friend let me ride his-- nice). even if it's not my main bike, it would be cool to have one around.

one word responses are acceptable.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 04:26 (nineteen years ago)

Check out the on guard locks and chains, they cost less and get good reviews.

Don't ride a suspension mountain bike in town, the fixie idea is sound but put a front brake on, they don't cost much and it at least gives you the option not to fixed gear skid into the side of a truck.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 05:13 (nineteen years ago)

thanks. i just looked at that cheap bike again and the dropouts aren't horizontal, and that seems to be pretty essential. ah well.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 05:27 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

that way you can fly head over heels into the truck instead

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 05:29 (nineteen years ago)

Depends what the drop out looks like. If it is long like this:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/images/dropf-camp.gif

Then you can do it.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 05:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://sheldonbrown.com/fixed-conversion.html

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 05:32 (nineteen years ago)


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