― sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link
From what I've heard, all versions of the script up to now have taken out the big alien and the ending. Don't ask me how. One screenwriter (I forget who) said, "You can't have a movie end with four million people dying in Manhattan. It's too ugly."
― sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link
x-post Fuck, yet another depressing yet believable cop-out.
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link
The only ostensibly positive thing about either movie getting made would be raising Moore's profile/making him a bunch of money and giving him a modicum of financial stability.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link
and, more importantly, james purefoy
― fe zaffe (fezaffe), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link
(if he has any say in the matter, I mean)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Curious George Finds the Ether Bottle (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link
oh I can think of a way they replace the original work. A SHIT LOAD MORE PEOPLE SEE IT, WTF.
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link
haha - good for him. he's an upstanding chap.
"oh I can think of a way they replace the original work. A SHIT LOAD MORE PEOPLE SEE IT, WTF."
but the original books are still there, perfectly unmolested, available for all to read if they so wish. Movies are not comics. One does not replace the other - they exist parallel to each other.
let's face it - the best hope for a decent Watchmen movie was when Gilliam wanted to make it. But then Munchausen bombed and Gilliam got cold feet re: translatability of the script...
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:27 (nineteen years ago) link
At the bottom of the Aronofsky Watchmen thread linked above there's another link to an interview with the guy who IS directing Watchmen that might allay some concerns.
― Huk-L, Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― fe zaffe (fezaffe), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link
Easy to say when it isn't your words putting bacon on the table. PK Dick was so damn broke at the end of his life, he would have been elated if they cut him a check to turn one of his movies into a musical comedy.
Moore has already had one movie not translate from the comic very well with "From Hell".
― earlnash, Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-L, Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
One?! Can we get the full list of bad Moore adaptations? I'll start with LXG and SWAMP THING!
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-L, Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link
LXG was awful.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 March 2005 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 March 2005 20:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 18 March 2005 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 March 2005 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― sunburned and snowblind (kenan), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 18 March 2005 00:22 (nineteen years ago) link
"It's a common device for serial killer films to let you know who the killer is right away."
Please tell me what these movies are, because I disagree. Obviously Jason/Mike Myers/Freddy etc are not analogous with Dr. Gull. I guess there's "Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer" and the various Gacy movies, but those don't involve a cop/investigator as the main protagonist - they feature the killers themselves as the protagonists (an approach which also wouldn't have worked with From Hell, I don't think).
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 March 2005 00:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 March 2005 00:36 (nineteen years ago) link
*this has always vaguely annoyed me abt moore's "from hell" actually: gull is the easily least interesting of the various proposed rippers; a "from hell" based round james maybrick wd have been better
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:39 (nineteen years ago) link
It would've been nice if they'd squeezed Oscar Wilde and the Golden Dawn into the movie, but what can ya do... at least they managed to get the Elephant Man in there (tho not the reference to Ganesha, the Opener of Ways, sadly. Actually that's what I missed most from the movie - the depth of magical/mystical ref. points)
Dick's being thoroughly mined now Mark, don't worry. He wrote enough trash to fuel a million crappy sci-fi flicks.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 March 2005 00:40 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyone, turns in to more counterfactual nazi pron. yawn. Still, Natalie Portman eh? Can't all be bad.
― Dave B (daveb), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:51 (nineteen years ago) link
Henry, Silence of the Lambs, The Minus Man, American Psycho, Felicia's Journey (arguably), Eye of the Needles (arguably), Freeway, Natural Born Killers, I Was a Teenage Serial Killer, Summer of Sam, Bonnie and Clyde...
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 18 March 2005 01:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 18 March 2005 01:35 (nineteen years ago) link
Wow. I missed that. This thread makes me want to reread those comics...
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 18 March 2005 01:39 (nineteen years ago) link
and anyway none of these suggest a workable template for From Hell (w/the possible exception of American Psycho)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 18 March 2005 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 18 March 2005 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 18 March 2005 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Silky Sensor (sexyDancer), Friday, 18 March 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-L, Friday, 18 March 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
aw they're nice people! seriously, i have learned that many people don't want to jump into an impassioned argument about whether a movie was horrible/the best ever immediately after seeing it.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link
have there been any other recent movies about mass uprisings/civil unrest/rebellion (or whatever)? this is the only one i can think of, which might explain why its imagery's been coopted by contemporary protest movements/scientology-hating nerds
― ☂ (max), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link
horseshoe i had the same experience as you after seeing the matrix 2 at midnight with a bunch of people. there is a photo somehwere of me w/ like a dozen people and they are all giving a thumbs up and i am the only person in the group giving a thumbs down
i feel as though i have been vindicated by history
― ☂ (max), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link
i feel like you have posted about that before and it made me lol on that occasion as well
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link
haha probably. it was a formative experience in my time as a young contrarian. i have to find that photo
― ☂ (max), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link
have there been any other recent movies about mass uprisings/civil unrest/rebellion (or whatever)?
there was that one about the aliens in south africa and that one about the blue people lol
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01577/avatar_1577367i.jpg
― (.づ☀‿☀)づ ~da post-modernist struggle~ (.づ☀‿☀)づ (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
t/s "THE END?" vs "THE END" followed by a 5 second pause at which point the question mark dissolves into view― lemon kerrang! (jjjusten), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:26 (47 minutes ago) Permalinkit really depends on the film. If you're talking Inception the former, Black Swan the latter.― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:28 (45 minutes ago)
― lemon kerrang! (jjjusten), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:26 (47 minutes ago) Permalink
it really depends on the film. If you're talking Inception the former, Black Swan the latter.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 20:28 (45 minutes ago)
This comment is fantastic imo
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
i learned this same lesson at a little movie called 300
― lemon kerrang! (jjjusten), Wednesday, June 15, 2011 4:20 PM (28 minutes ago)
I learn it all over again every time Sandra Bullock makes a movie.
― Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link
You have friends who go to the theater to watch Sandra Bullock movies? (I understand DVD)
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link
My wife is a Bullock fangirl.
― Mr. Patrick Batman (WmC), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.channel4.com/news/v-for-vendetta-the-man-behind-the-mask
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Friday, 11 May 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
What images immediately embody rebellion in recent decades? Let me suggest two: the smiley face for the ecstasy generation in the late 80s and early 90s, and the V mask which is currently the icon of global anti-capitalist protest. Both images have spread beneath the level of corporate dictat: neither were concocted by an advertising agency. Both were, and are, recognisable across the planet, and were communicated as memes from user to user.
More remarkably, both emerged from the work of one man - Alan Moore, a working-class Northampton comics writer with a polymath's range of references, and a really rather scary beard. It is hard to suggest another creative artist - certainly not a British one - who has had such an impact on popular culture and above all popular protest.The smiley face came from Watchmen, his seminal counter-factual exploration of superheroes and politics...
The smiley face came from Watchmen, his seminal counter-factual exploration of superheroes and politics...
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 11 May 2012 23:36 (twelve years ago) link
that is all wrong
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 May 2012 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
OG smiley face was created by an advertising agency, V's Guy Fawkes mask is obviously more of a folk thing but is owned by Time Warners.
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 May 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i'd intended to cut the last couple sentences out of the first quote block. i'm okay, for the sake of argument, with the suggestion that these are important symbols of rebellion.
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 11 May 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
you know who should have directed this? the ghost of alan clarke.
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 11 May 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
was gonna go for whoever did that 60s Batman movie
― like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 May 2012 23:58 (twelve years ago) link
sorry is that what happened irl?
― like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 May 2012 23:59 (twelve years ago) link
adam west/burt ward v for vendetta would be good too
― jesus christ (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Saturday, 12 May 2012 00:00 (twelve years ago) link
burt ward has a look of skinheady sadsack about him
― like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 May 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link
If the screenwriters had rewritten the movie so that Stephen Fry was the Big Brother, then it would have been awesome.― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:17 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:17 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
have never seen this movie but knew stephen fry was in it and until now had assumed he was the big brother, just like how when i heard he was in sherlock holmes 2 A GAME OF SHADOWS i assumed he was moriarty. but he wasn't. what the hell. how hard is this.
― their private gesture for bison (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 12 May 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
Somehow I never got around to watching this until last night. Mild head trip watching it now in 2018 looking back at 2006 potential future history but it is as politically astute and timely as pages 4-5 of the Maximum Rock & Roll letters column from 1985. Commodify your dissent!
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link
this is a funny thread.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 21:43 (five years ago) link
this was better than decent tbh, I'd much lower hopes for it but flung it on last night to good effect personally speaking
― Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Saturday, 29 January 2022 21:04 (two years ago) link
I really liked it!
― mardheamac (gyac), Saturday, 29 January 2022 21:15 (two years ago) link