The Irish

Ooops, sorry I thought this was an ILM thread 'cos I was on ILM and then I did a search and so I thought...I know...I am dumb.

And it's quite a late night for me.

'search' and 'destroy'? UMkay

Ned, not quite full blown trad....but you can't go wrong with Christy Moore.

Specifically, I'd recommend Planxty's 2004 (or is it 2005? I can't remember) live album, which is brilliant and has Christy Moore singing on it. Any one of the first four Chieftains albums are also top class. Martin Hayes is also very popular and good, and there's a great, great singer called Iarla O Lionaird who sings unaccompanied Irish songs. His voice is beautiful, but it can get a little wearing after a while if you don't understand what he's singing about.

The Dubliners ain't half bad either.

luke kelly.

also, what's with lack of WB Yeats love upthread?

Ned's question inspired me to dig out that Planxty 2004 album. It is GRATE.

Ned, not quite full blown trad....but you can't go wrong with Christy Moore.

My lord, the prosecution cites "Don't Forget Your Shovel".

search: Planxty's "The Well Below The Valley", if only for the title track.

My lord, the prosecution cites "Don't Forget Your Shovel".

Also "The Voyage", and his version of "Ride On".

xpost

If it's the same one the Devil's Interval do then it's got incest and 6 cases of abortion/infanticide, body count is the hallmark of a good folk song.

Planxty, yes - I only know the first three albums though. Also that Andy Irvine+Paul Brady album - in fact, is Andy Irvine famous? He's certainly not as famous as he should be! (He's also from London, of course!)I don't know as much about Irish music as I should.

yes well, not every track! I'm out of my depth here, and I've forgotten my shovel.

Planxty, yes - I only know the first three albums though. Also that Andy Irvine+Paul Brady album - in fact, is Andy Irvine famous?

he is famous enough, but maybe not as famous as he deserves to be. He plays live a lot in Whelans, and every time I go to see him I kick myself for not going to see him every time he plays, as he is awesome.

In a piece of inspired supportage, the first time I saw him was when he was supporting Will Oldham; a whole new generation of fans was born.

He is awesome. Everything I've ever heard him do, from Sweeney's Men onwards, has been great, and he always seems like the most talented and yet least well known in whatever setup he's involved in.

I think he is all about the music rather than about the self-promotion.

I love his song about how Ronnie Drew is actually a culchie.

CINCINNATI -- A man was caught Tuesday morning inside a car with his pants down.

Police said Kim Leblanc broke into a parked car overnight on Central Parkway, and the owner found him asleep inside and called police.

Officers said Leblanc was not wearing any pants when they arrived.

Investigators said Leblanc told them he had done drugs and believed that a leprechaun had let him into the car.

Leblanc remains in police custody on a variety of charges.

top scientist claims irish less intelligent than other ethnicities,

blames leprechaun influence.

Thieving Irish. Here's something funny: I'm American, and my grandfather raised us to be conscious of our Irish heritage. We just find out our Irish side actually came from England ... and had lived there for centuries before coming to the US, rather than actually coming here from Ireland during the potato/weird root tasting beer/cable knit sweater famine.

So what's the deal with that - English, Irish, what? I'm sure most of the people who claim Irish heritage here are less of Irish heritage than suspected.

http://www.dk-ink.com/AngelsRemembered/files/leprechaun.gif

Oh who knows. My family could care less about it, we're American...but my boyfriend's family is v v proudly Irish...except at this point all their relatives back home live in the Leith district of Edinburgh. At least they're all Hibs supporters!

um, hibs aren't the 'irish' team in scotland.

they are one of the Irish teams, as far as I know. especially if you live in Edinburgh. Scots may know better.

Hibs were the "Irish" team in Scotland before Celtic were.

If by "Irish" you mean "charitable club set up by members of the Catholic church to provide aid to poverty stricken Catholics who were mostly Irish immigrants" or something. Hibernian means Irish, doesn't it?

Dundee United also followed the Hibs model and were originally called Dundee Hibernian.

um, oh, look, just,

look, they aren't the 'irish' team in scotland. come on!

Not any more, no. People generally support Hibs if they're from east Edinburgh

My grandparents came over from Donegal, and couldn't stand all the Irish trappings all the people here embraced. Then again, who really gives a shit.

I wd have said they were more the "Catholic" team than the "Irish" team, but, y'know, I'm not going to argue about it.

FOR A CHANGE

Also the bf is disgruntled by Oirish-Americans who profess love to Guinness and etc etc -- he says real Irish people drink Budweister, because it's good enough and it's cheap. Ahhh the keystone of our young love....

The fuck is wrong with my typing this morning? Love OF Guinness, and Budweiser.

My grandparents came over from Donegal, and couldn't stand all the Irish trappings all the people here embraced. Then again, who really gives a shit.

every post on ilx should have "Then again, who really gives a shit" as its coda.

Also the bf is disgruntled by Oirish-Americans who profess love to Guinness and etc etc -- he says real Irish people drink Budweister, because it's good enough and it's cheap.

that's like the way English people drink lame-o lagers instead of real ale.

It's funny though... in general I am against patriotism and nationalism, but I feel that it is very important that I drink Guinness and not foreign drinks.

I feel that it's very important that I drink Guinness.
I also feel very strongly about not drinking horse-piss.
It's a win-win situation.

I like Guiness and Budweiser. Not because I'm third generation Irish but because they taste good (to me and I like to get fucked up.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/02/ireland

I am reading Roy Foster's LUCK & THE IRISH. Has anyone else read or even thought about it?

Haven't read it but it sounds interesting. Are you far enough into it to decide if it's worth reading or not?

Ned, I can't believe you don't love " St. Patrick's Day-related idiocies in America." My dog has an Irish name (Declan) so he has to put up with wearing a shamrock kerchief every St Patrick's Day. He loves the beer part of it at least ;-)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/168/418896575_92f41654dc_m.jpg
being tortured by wearing said kerchief at a st patrick's parade

Oh yes, it's definitely worth reading! Foster always is, whatever else you think of him.

At the moment I'm reading about Irish feminists' campaigns for contraceptives etc in the 1970s; to do what they did in that society I think they had to be very imaginative and courageous.

Did we all realise Conor Cruise O;Brien snuffed it, btw?

Yes.

What's the best thing to read by him then?

I've got Herod but it's one of these ludicrous situations where it just looks so imposing that I've bottled out of even opening it

"it went all the way up my gowl"

no sound at work :(

i am into my irish heritage and i enjoy irish music, the poetry of yeats, the novels of beckett etc. but the st. patrick's day thing just fills me with profound despair.

I don't think this is a "but" situation. St. Patrick's Day as it's practiced in the US (and reimported to Ireland because the graspers saw a chance to make more money off it) is obnoxious. I remember being in California for St. Patrick's Day once, and one of my friends "playfully" punched me in the arm because I wasn't wearing green. She was amazed to learn that this is not actually a thing in Ireland at all (although it probably fucking is now, who knows). I'm just pissed off because our glorious taoiseach is over there as usual shilling for big business. "Please buy our lamb that comes from massive fucking farms that are destroying the water system! Please come and build your pharma factories here that are also fucking up the water system! Please invest in our housing market and evict everyone! We love it!"

My best friend is from Surrey and has an RP type accent. I will never forget us being on a Dublin bus during my university days & he pipes up in his hooray Henry accent & these two aul wans sitting in front of us WRENCHED their heads around and glared at him until he nearly died in his seat, like he was Cromwell reborn or something.

I miss those days! The LJs of this world are far too comfortable visiting imo

xp ar an airgead

i literally told you about the old fella on the bus crowing about mountbatten to me lol

That was a warning

Can’t just go waltzing into Saor Dhoire with the big English head on you

probably took a liberty yeah. best pancakes i've maybe ever had though at that one cafe

I find Beamish a bit watery. Murphys is better than Guinness though.

Whiskey only, though I do consider it a hate crime if people ask me repeatedly if I’m really SURE I don’t want ice in it

Guinness will always be my favorite, I did like beamish though.

I’ve been drinking almost exclusively nonalcoholic Guinness this year though, in an effort to remain dry. Shockingly good for a non-alcoholic brew.

Looks like I picked the right day - or wrong day depending on your view of St Paddy's Day - to walk about with my Celtic beanie on. I'm not in London though so the chances of being mistaken for a wanker are less at least.

America's CreateTV showed this year's Saint Patrick's Day Parade live this morning, and it's on their YouTube channel---dunno if you can see it outside the US---maybe other sources?---but here's the link---it was pretty amazing I thought, and hosts were exclaiming about how atypically beautiful the weather was:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXHc6tTWHMA

I'm seeing an awful lot of AI-generated shite hanging in London pubs, "Shenanigans In Progress" and worse.

I just fucking hate this place. I hate the racist, misogynistic, fashy cunts who are currently shutting down the whole country, and I hate the cowardly cunts who won't stand up to them. I hate big agribusiness. I hate the big tech companies (even though mister trishyb works for one). I hate it all. This shitty place, these shitty people. Gah. Oh, is Rory McIlroy doing well in the golf in fucking Trump's America, is he? And I'm supposed to be in favour of that, am I? Fuck off.

OK, sorry, I just needed to do that.

we're more "craic" than other ethnicities tho? we're great "craic".

€505 million to placate the fash. Absolutely pathetic craic altogether.

not to swoop in to undermine the main points but negotiating with the ifa and hauliers, who stayed out (officially and afaict reasonably fairly) of the protests and keeping it fairly clear that a sectoral deal would be done through official lines only seems to have done rather a decent job of getting a support deal done (which was necessary) while ensuring that no further space/power than was necessary was ceded to the fash in those fairly prominent and probably reasonably vulnerable to it organisations

waiting the cunts out until maybe a day more than was already too much also seems to have let the public tire and ask most of the right questions of the protest elements most rogue and most linked to the far right

id call it quite well judged given the starting hand tbh and i dont routinely comment on the political genius of martin et al

rory mcilroy is a northern irish golfer who doesnt seem very popular with american golf fans and he was successful in a tournament played abroad this evening yes.

A nice jpg of a sunset and a pleasant font would make it even more profound.

Works for anything!
https://i.postimg.cc/3JKw2sLT/IMG-6976.jpg

Has Ireland faced a heatwave? Thinking of moving if not..

xp will have to learn Photoshop or however you do that, one day

we did, three days in a row last week was over 33 degrees in most parts and the place kind of shuts down at that in the same way i expect much of UK did

Ok so just slightly less but still bad.

i dont know that it gets like london bad tbf, if that helps

I could have a trial. I should renew my Portuguese passport.

And my cousin has been living and working in Dublin for the last couple of years.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/articles/cwy8450qkwwo

I’m actually home end of July for a few days and praying this coincides with another heatwave here