Um, I Think It's Time for a Thread on WikiLeaks

Michigan*

As I mentioned on the U.S. Politics thread, I'm a media adviser at a public university in Florida, which boasts one of the most liberal sunshine laws in the country. We routinely remind student reporters trying to get relevant information that university emails are part of the public record, and we can access them by FOIA if necessary. I know enough to keep private business off university email.

I know nothing about Alaska's public access laws, but it explains why Sarah Palin relied on her Yahoo account for her campaigning – she knows the score.

assange killin it on reykjavik dancefloor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNqd4hW98sQ

Fools. You think he is dancing. Clearly, these are highly coded movements he is using to signal a possible source of classified government intelligence, who I am assuming is signaling back with a glow stick.

psychicwhoosh 3 hours ago

curious what you radical transparency guys think of the FOIA-Michegan situation going on

― Mordy, Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:59 AM (Yesterday)

it's pretty stupid, tbh. the only reason they're possibly subject to FOIA, as i understand it, is because the correspondence in question took place on university (state) email rather than personal email. i do not think publicly-employed academics/university professors should be accountable to taxpayers the same way elected officials are; adademic freedom is at stake here it seems and hopefully a judge will block the request, though i'm not terribly familiar with the law as it applies to this case nor have i been following it that closely

On to Guantanamo.

Oh boy. Another trove!

Oh, I thought Assange had been put on a plane - xpost

The files were shared with the Guardian and US National Public Radio by the New York Times, which says it did not obtain them from WikiLeaks.

ha i have one of these http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/25/guantanamo-files-casio-wristwatch-alqaida

Eep!

Al caekda!

o i c

But Assange objected to some articles the Guardian and the New York Times had written, notably those detailing the Swedish sex allegations over which he is currently fighting extradition. He decided to tear up the original deal. According to those close to him, he conceived a plan instead to distribute the Guantánamo material only to a range of rival papers, including the right-wing Daily Telegraph, the Washington Post and Al Jazeera, whilst preventing readers of the Guardian and the New York Times from having access to it.

The New York Times, however, obtained the file from its own sources. When other papers discovered the Guardian and New York Times joint publishing plans late last night, they hurried out their own versions of the Guantánamo files, in an attempt to catch up.

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange says Facebook, Google, and Yahoo are actually tools for the U.S. intelligence community.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20059247-17.html

Julian Assange is a modern day Thomas Paine!

dunno what political threads would be like without gradski and his gossip updates

assange doesn't come off as crazy here, sorry

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange says Facebook, Google, and Yahoo are actually tools for the U.S. intelligence community.

yeah, in the same way a a garden hoe is a "tool" for gardening. like, it's useful for this purpose

"It's not a matter of serving a subpoena," he told RT. "They have an interface that they have developed for U.S. intelligence to use."

is this surprising? wasn't there just a big thing recently about how the government wanted cell phone companies to structure their databases and lines to be more easily intercepted? i don't think assange is exactly cooking up a conspiracy theory here

i dunno man, "having their own interface" is way different from serving a subpoena

also weird that he doesnt have any documents to back up what he's saying

also i was unaware i had a rep for dropping "gossip updates" on political threads-- when else have i done this?

well, just now for one obviously. um. that other time...

i linked to a summary of interview with Julian Assange just now.

What other time?

lol dude, i'm playing. i don't think you're a gossip.

ha ok

idk the article you posted isn't "news", and from what i can tell what you seem to bring to the table on these threads is similarly tangential/lol articles or whatever. and that's cool, i'm not mad. i guess i'm also/mostly remembering your obsession with the personal life of that arizona shooter a few months ago

for example your other post in this thread that has something to do with wikileaks is about assange being a bad houseguest

::kanyeshrugs::

yeah, im very curious about "built-in interfaces," but regardless of their existence he's otm. gr8080 feeling the need to add a scare "actually" is pretty gossipy, yes. xp

more disingenuous than gossipy "actually"

yall its ok to support the mission of wikileaks and admit that assange is a weirdo paranoid perv/bad houseguest

tbf that's the language of the article xp

yall its ok to support the mission of wikileaks and admit that assange is a weirdo paranoid perv/bad houseguest

― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Wednesday, May 4, 2011 6:46 PM (9 seconds ago)

i know this is basically me!

oh duh, my bad!

xp yeah

sorry 2 gr8080

xposts

sorry if that bugged you but i mean, that was a news event as much as a "political thread". (gun rights debate amirite). also i spent my adolescence in Tucson so maybe i was more interested in that stuff that the average "political thread reader". i dunno.

if loling is wrong then i don't want to be right.

enjoying the irony of getting thread-policed over a 4-month old thread where i myself was a huge unforgivable thread cop, though

lol now i understand your reply to that bad houseguest story tho

http://i56.tinypic.com/14jt2ld.jpg

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/10/us-australia-britain-assange-idUSTRE7495FP20110510

Re: that picture - does he have his own gravity or what? That medal is clearly attracted by his head (or hair)

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/wikileaks/manning-facebook-page/

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/38609_PBS_FrontLine-_WikiSecrets

Was Julian Assange prepared to publish some of the leaked documents without adequately redacting the names of people who could have been harmed by the disclosures? “Julian was very reluctant to delete those names, to redact them.” David Leigh of the Guardian newspaper tells FRONTLINE of meetings he attended with Assange in the run-up to publication of the war logs. “And we said: ‘Julian, we’ve got to do something about these redactions. We really have got to.’ And he said: ‘These people were collaborators, informants. They deserve to die.’ And a silence fell around the table.”

wtf

who is he, Voldemort?

Greenwals with the latest on the Milhous Obama gang's investigation:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/06/09/wikileaks/index.html

Hmmm. Bank Of America documents are still under wraps, something to do with blackmail

Didn't see this til Greenwald linked it: 2006 summary execution of Iraqi civilian family by US forces covered up.

http://news.antiwar.com/2011/08/29/cables-reveal-2006-summary-execution-of-civilian-family-in-iraq/

think progress mentioned it this morning, too.

we actually have an old thread dedicated to it, under a difficult to search title:

Haditha Massacre in Iraq- Video evidence found

So by mistake WikiLeaks have published *all* cables without x-ing out names and phone numbers. PM's numbers, the phone numbers of the Dutch queen etc, it's all out in the open now. Assange is furious at OpenLeaks, but it seems to be his own mistake.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/01/all-leaked-u-s-cables-were-made-available-online-as-wikileaks-splintered/

Assange's password for the file:

http://content.nos.nl/data/image/xxl/2011/09/01/269054.jpg

Assange blames The Grauniad

“We all believe that information should be free, and the Internet should be free.”

Gawker sez Bye Bye, Julian

gawker otm

you would say that!

i don't disagree with some of that but it's kinda funny how the standard line of criticism has gone from (or vacillates between) "he releases information indiscriminately/thoughtlessly" and "if you think about it ASSANGE HIMSELF is not transparent". there's a bit of truth in each, to be sure