who are you a stan of?

what im just sayin

anyway can we talk about the excellence of alasdair roberts?
please?

you've just inspired me to give No Earthly Man a 6am play! Should work well as the sun starts to rise.

i mean grammer pedants can sit there all day like actually - yet im not allowed to call them stupid - the world is unfair!

with whom a hoos beefs

i don't actually care except when i have to copy edit stuff at work.. ok and when people send me emails at work that are so grammatically messed up, i can't understand what they are saying and i wonder how they even have a job.

<3 grammar nazis btw, if I could internalise it all well enough to be a grammar robot I would. Instead I settle for being Mr Free and Easy. Even though I'm not entirely down with the not-ending-sentences-with-a-preposition rule, I do like forcing its application when the resulting structure is tortured beyond belief.

(that's not geeky at all.)

grammar pedants irl have a certain adorable fustiness but on the internets it's just a miserable ploy

adorable fustiness maybe if they're like, a 60 year old english teacher. but most people I know who do it irl are just dicks.

well if you think there are rules to grammar that people need you to point out to then im prob smarter than you, thats just a general pattern ive noticed, although im totally willing to allow that smart people could indulge in stupid shit like this due having back childhoods or w/e

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:57 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

wait u mean the rulez of language don't MEEN ANYTHING and pointing them out is just 1-upping yrself and sggstv of intellectual insecurity oh shi--like of course that's the case man and a person who runs around correcting people's essentially insubstantial misunderstandingz has some growing up to oh hmm hmm

I feel like the hoos/cr?m beef has serious potential

i don't think ilx can survive such a showdown

in all seriousness i respect people understanding and even taking great delight the conventions of grammar - all those relative pronoun and whatnot are p amazing on some level - its the combination of not really having any perspective on where that fits with ~the miracle of language~ and feeling the need to correct people that comes off as oddly and pervasively clueless

lol is hoos still mad cause i didnt like that kind of lame guy from youtube

and for the record as to the 'rulez of language' my position is there are none that require enforcing

Well I was gonna list another bunch of stannin's but I dont want to interrupt this erudite discussion :|

what language has the most grammar correcting people

latin

it has to be french doesnt it, not that i speak french but ive heard they are really into that sort of thing

I want to say french but ime it's rarely 'grammar correcting' and more 'people looking down on other people silently'

the french have a whole academie devoted to grammar correcting

Yeah latin I would reckon. Or english tbqh

ime people from countries with a lot of individual dialects or languages (my experience is w/ india) get into huge arguments over how to say the stupidest shit, esp when they all speak the same multiple languages

seems like spanish speakers are always claiming their country speaks 'the best spanish' w/e that means

so many people dumber than ice cr?m...

there have to be billions of them *marvels @ world*

afaik the academie spends way more energy fighting loan words than on grammar issues...cause french people are always gonna use 'french grammar', it's not like you can borrow english grammar.

xp

l'académie française
institution for protecting the language dating all the way back to the 17th century. no english words please!

you can't borrow english grammar i suppose, but arabic, or from african languages, or verlan.. the way some young people talk is almost incomprehensible

no one tell them abt

http://savageminds.org/wp-content/image-upload/indoeuropean-language-family-tree.jpg

verlan is very french in origin!

well yeah it's french slang. l'envers, le verlan

the academie francaise is so weird and unique though - to have an official state institution charged with the national language, and how it's functioned all this time.. i haven't thought about this stuff in years.. wow.. memory is bad!

I dunno these guys are a good example of buzza's adorable fustiness, they get to call themselves 'immortals' and hang out in a little castle but really don't have much influence on the world. french grammar is changing more drastically than english grammar!

anyway I don't think that answer is french, I think the answer would be a country w/ lots of people who like to act helpful but secretly think they're smarter than everyone else

canada?

shocking development!

ties in perfectly w/ the weeknd thread

S3

lol is hoos still mad cause i didnt like that kind of lame guy from youtube

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:15 AM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark

lol

ps fwiw he is no longer someone for whom i shall stan

canada?

― ice cr?m, Wednesday, March 30, 2011 1:46 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark

lol, came here to say

Neil Young

eric bachmann. he is a total hero. career musician, food truck operator, genuinely nice guy, grown man.

I like how Hungarian isn't on that tree

I mean I know it's a non-indo-european language, I just kind of marvel at its oddness

dfw
david lynch
kate bush
basic channel

also known to stan for picasso, nietzsche, and joyce depending on the extent of the challops leveled against them

the Who

my stan list is so dorky

Stephen King
Nick Cave
Pearl Jam
Iron Maiden
Drive By Truckers
NIN

inspired by realizing yesterday i am basically a huge obama stan

― 8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 15:06 (2 years ago)

and now?

i think i still am, more or less. i think "stan" is gettin used just to mean "obsessive fan" by a lot of people, but i think its more than that... its like fandom despite "knowing better" or something. "objectively" i think obama is a big disappointment but irl i cant quit the guy

now that I have compiled my list, I see that max has emended his qualifiers. but i'm posting them anyway (just garden variety "obsessive fan" stuff here)

david lynch
errol morris
roald dahl
umberto eco
fyodor dostoevsky
susan sontag
mark rothko
diane arbus
david hockney
kevin shields
galaxie 500
cocteau twins

i have such a weird and irrational love for the "Sledge Hammer!" TV show that it upsets me that people didn't really seem to get it when it aired