ILX running running thread

nice job all!

i shuffled thru 3 miles last night in 32 min or so, first run since marathon saturday. also planned out a hefty running schedule for the next 7-8 months or so: 1,500+ miles, five races (one tune-up, then four ultramarathons). schedule starts NOW

How far are the ultras?

60k, 60k, 60k, then either 50k or 50mi depending how burned out (or not) i am

that's 37.2 miles before you go running to your calculator btw

Thanks for the math help, bro.

I'm progressing nicely so I'm starting to think about a 50k. Not going to make any decisions till after the marathon though. I had a dream last night that I ran sub 4. It was a good dream.

there ya go!

i was on track for sub-5 at my trail marathon until about 1/2 way through when i realized: A) i had not run further than 7-8 miles on any run in the last 6 weeks, B) i had run an average of mayyyybe 5-10 miles a week in those 6 weeks, C) the result was that i was grossly underprepared, D) this was not a flat road marathon but a fairly hilly, rooty 6.5-mile trail loop twisting thru the woods, E) it was fucking 88 degrees in MARCH in texas and felt like summer and i had not done ANY training in the heat... so ended up being in the 5:xx:xx range like pretty much all my marathons :(

oh and F) running the first half of the race at sub-5 pace meant i was about to crash and burn really badly and not be able to keep up the pace in the heat

88 degrees is tough.

i'd love to blame it 100% on the weather/heat but i was way underprepared :D

Under prepared AND heat are tough. That was basically my marathon in a nutshell.

When are you going to do a 100??

not for a while... maybe in 3-4-5 years, who knows. i want to be able to get marathon times faster (4:00-4:30 range) and also get to where a 50 miler is "comfy" (relatively speaking) before i even think about 100

Ha, "comfy".

My plan:
2011- marathon
2012 - 50k
2013 - 50m
2014 - 100m
2015 - bad water
2016 - 1000m

This is all lies.

2011 - injured training for marathon
2012 - injured training for 50k
2013 - injured training for 50m
2014 - injured training for 100m
2015 - injured training for bad water
2016 - injured training for 1000m

(kidding!!!!) (hopefully)

That is the more likely scenario.

Seriously though, maybe a fall marathon this year, but more likely a Winter one in 2012. I should also run another half, since my PR was made by walking the last 8 miles of the only one I've run. Can't let that stand.

my marathon and 1/2 PRs i've set in training, i don't bother paying for road races anymore, really-- trails too tempting, more fun, cheaper races, better people, smaller crowds, good food at aid stations etc.

marathon training PR is actually around 4:37 i forget (in actual race 5:10)

half PR 1:58 in training (2:04 in race)

Half training PR - 1:59
Half race PR - 3:10

Lolsob

13.2 mi in the rain. i'm dead tired.

How fast?

133 min, so just over 10min/mile

did 11.5 miles in the same time a month ago, so i'm pleased. gonna need to lose some weight though before i can pick up my speed.

Good progression, lowercase.

thanks big j

any tips on dealing with foot blisters? this run turned some minor issues into bigger ones (all of the side of one foot) and i think that skin may have to come off. should i let it happen naturally or start the process myself? i just want to get back to running asap and not wait it out

this j-J-j-J shit is confusing

oh btw pop & drain yr blisters, don't peel off the skin tho, let it come off naturally. if you drain it should kinda dry up overnight & not be painful to run on while you wait for it to die & fall off

just use a needle, poke a hole in the corner iirc

What about duct tape? Don't you use it?

I'd probably sterilize the needle.

yeah there is no fluid in this one. i assume it's popping in the shoe. but the area of loose skin keeps growing and it starts causing pain after 5mi or so. i guess i will just ride it out.

16 miles today at 9:40 pace. Felt strong, but really feeling it in my legs right now. I wonder if I'll ever be able to nonchalantly run that far and then be able to walk around normally.

I was able to drag my ass out of bed this morning and run the full loop in Central Park. Wow, I am not used to hills. I love flat, flat Chicago.

oh man i love the central park loop! A+ would run again

do you live in NY or Chicago..?

Chicago, I'm in NYC on Bizness.

ahh okay, was gonna say, i'll be there in a few wks probably!

Cool, see if you can beat my time. It took me right at an hour to go 6.2. Exhausting. Makes me think that I should run hills more often for the conditioning.

everyone should run more hills (i love 'em tho)

i am posting the map to my planned 5 miler this afternoon so that i remain accountable, knowing ive said i am going to do it. please make fun of me if i havent done this about 8 hrs later today.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=4384273

Hey ilxor, when you're doing trail runs around Austin, where do you go? I love Town Lake, but it's time to run somewhere else.

my three big running spots:

- Town Lake (i work within 1/4 mile of the trail; head down on weekends for 1-2 ten mile loops)
- Walnut Creek Park (~5 min drive from my home; great 11 mile trail loop, moderately hilly, more so than Town Lake, but not as hilly as...)
- Emma Long Park (this is a couple minutes west of 620 and 2222; hilliest trail in Austin that i've found, main loop is 6 miles, and honestly it's off limits to pedestrians [it's a motocross/mountain biking park] so when i head out there, it's at like 6am or earlier before anyone else hits the park, lest i be "discovered" - anyway, if i do that 6 mile loop 2-3 times, i am WHIPPED)

Thanks! I'll give Walnut Creek park a spin this weekend. 11 miles is the perfect distance.

map here: http://www.austinridgeriders.com/documents/Walnut%20Creek%20Metro%20Park_Kiosk.pdf

for the 11 miler, stay on the yellow trail w/ blue dots. if you're going counter-clockwise overall (as shown by the arrows on the yellow/blue trail) there are signposts at most trail intersections with a blue square/diamond that point in the right direction to keep on that path. probably also good to print the map yr first time out there (i certainly did)

13 miles sunday, 6 miles yesterday, sore today

hahaha, wow, those trails are definitely more complex than town lake. maybe I'll walk around all day first and then try running them. looks like a great park, though.

i'd say i could give you a tour but that sounds kinda creepy ^__________^

I'll take a running tour on the slim chance I ever set foot in Austin again.

whoa buddy do you have something against austin??

Ha, not really. I've only been once, went to SXSW about 8 years ago but haven't had a reason to go back. I liked it, really. I wish I had been a runner them.

btw, great NY Times article this wk on world class ultrarunner turned convict Charlie Engle

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/26/business/26nocera.html

and his personal blog (still being updated from prison)

http://charlieengle.com