ILX running running thread

I need a convenient trail.

I'm actually going to need to do a 6 mile run in DC on 3/31, maybe I can find a trail? It's going to have to be a 6:00 am start time though.

I'll probably just have to stick with city running. I don't need to be twisting my ankle a month and a half before my marathon.

where will you be staying?

Hilton Capital
1001 16TH ST NW

ok yeah, hard to find trails near there! maybe go for a run down the mall & around the monuments/tidal basin? if you feel like being adventurous, you could run down to memorial bridge and over to the mt. vernon trail (represent!) or into arlington cemetery.

What about teddy roosevelt island? Looks like I can get there.

yeah def. i've never been over there but i *think* you could even take mt. vernon trail to get there.

Going to try something wacky on Saturday, pacing a pal in a 50k. Well, for one 10 mile loop of it. Got to hold 9 min/miles. Then I'll continue on and run 6 by myself.

still can't quite get fit, my ankle has got stiffer and sorer after running 4 miles on sat. i'm starting to think physio is mandatory if i want to keep running. or else i should just accept pain...

if it's still an issue you should def see a physio

How long did you take off before the 4?

i did 2 miles 7 days before, and had about 4/5 weeks off before that. part of me thinks if i am sensible i can just build up the muscles. but there must be exercises i can do to help this, before and after. i don't think i've fucked any one thing, i reckon it's just something in my gait.

Jell, that sounds awesome-- pacing is the job of unsung heroes

so how does being a pacer work? is it just a question of having developed an awesome sense of timing, or is there some kind of technical assistance involved?

you just run w/ someone and motivate them to keep going. i've actually never heard of using a pacer in a 50k (as jeff cites)-- it's more typical for, say, the last 30-40 miles of a 100 miler.

hey guys!
it's so good to be getting outside again. i spent the winter on the treadmill, it helped though cuz i'm running strong atm

Yeah, it's mainly for support. Makes the miles pass quicker.

hey can anyone figure out the exact URL for this img (LINK) or send me a downloaded .jpg or something? i can usually dig thru the Page Source and figure it out, but this one's giving me trouble. not really into paying $15 for a low-res image to throw on faceb00k or whatever

(photo from saturday's trail marathon btw!)

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg619/scaled.php?tn=0&server=619&filename=90c0.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg619/scaled.php?tn=0&server=619&filename=90c0.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

hahaha thanks. i guess judging by the border you took a screen shot & cropped? i shoulda done that...

Yes. I'm helping.

front of my ankle, btwn foot and lower calf, goes numb and dead early into each run lately, stiff and hurts like hell after. Anyone got any tips?

been running 8+ every other day lately. this week i am going to buy some gels and make a push to break 13 for the first time. very excited.

5 miles last night in 40:05. Actually the fastest 5 miles I've run. If I had been racing an 8k it would have been a PR by about a minute and a half. Don't know where that came from.

nice job all!

i shuffled thru 3 miles last night in 32 min or so, first run since marathon saturday. also planned out a hefty running schedule for the next 7-8 months or so: 1,500+ miles, five races (one tune-up, then four ultramarathons). schedule starts NOW

How far are the ultras?

60k, 60k, 60k, then either 50k or 50mi depending how burned out (or not) i am

that's 37.2 miles before you go running to your calculator btw

Thanks for the math help, bro.

I'm progressing nicely so I'm starting to think about a 50k. Not going to make any decisions till after the marathon though. I had a dream last night that I ran sub 4. It was a good dream.

there ya go!

i was on track for sub-5 at my trail marathon until about 1/2 way through when i realized: A) i had not run further than 7-8 miles on any run in the last 6 weeks, B) i had run an average of mayyyybe 5-10 miles a week in those 6 weeks, C) the result was that i was grossly underprepared, D) this was not a flat road marathon but a fairly hilly, rooty 6.5-mile trail loop twisting thru the woods, E) it was fucking 88 degrees in MARCH in texas and felt like summer and i had not done ANY training in the heat... so ended up being in the 5:xx:xx range like pretty much all my marathons :(

oh and F) running the first half of the race at sub-5 pace meant i was about to crash and burn really badly and not be able to keep up the pace in the heat

88 degrees is tough.

i'd love to blame it 100% on the weather/heat but i was way underprepared :D

Under prepared AND heat are tough. That was basically my marathon in a nutshell.

When are you going to do a 100??

not for a while... maybe in 3-4-5 years, who knows. i want to be able to get marathon times faster (4:00-4:30 range) and also get to where a 50 miler is "comfy" (relatively speaking) before i even think about 100

Ha, "comfy".

My plan:
2011- marathon
2012 - 50k
2013 - 50m
2014 - 100m
2015 - bad water
2016 - 1000m

This is all lies.

2011 - injured training for marathon
2012 - injured training for 50k
2013 - injured training for 50m
2014 - injured training for 100m
2015 - injured training for bad water
2016 - injured training for 1000m

(kidding!!!!) (hopefully)

That is the more likely scenario.

Seriously though, maybe a fall marathon this year, but more likely a Winter one in 2012. I should also run another half, since my PR was made by walking the last 8 miles of the only one I've run. Can't let that stand.

my marathon and 1/2 PRs i've set in training, i don't bother paying for road races anymore, really-- trails too tempting, more fun, cheaper races, better people, smaller crowds, good food at aid stations etc.

marathon training PR is actually around 4:37 i forget (in actual race 5:10)

half PR 1:58 in training (2:04 in race)

Half training PR - 1:59
Half race PR - 3:10

Lolsob

13.2 mi in the rain. i'm dead tired.

How fast?

133 min, so just over 10min/mile

did 11.5 miles in the same time a month ago, so i'm pleased. gonna need to lose some weight though before i can pick up my speed.

Good progression, lowercase.

thanks big j

any tips on dealing with foot blisters? this run turned some minor issues into bigger ones (all of the side of one foot) and i think that skin may have to come off. should i let it happen naturally or start the process myself? i just want to get back to running asap and not wait it out