rolling nutrition nazis 2011

yeah that seems to ring a bell the 'sodium sensitive' thing, maybe worth checking out? i guess i should.... aargh

they've recently reduced the amt of daily recommended/allowable sodium for us adults, too, i think...

maybe some sugar/hfcs lobbying effort, who knows?

I've mentioned in the past the problem is only partly with absolute sodium intake. Its also with sodium potassium balance, the sodium being the primary metal ion in extracellular fluid, potassium being primary inside cells. A high sodium/potassium ratio also seems to screw up signalling pathways Here's a layman's review of some of the research.

Some high potassium foods from my pantry (mg K / 100g serving):

Vegemite: 2600mg
Palm hearts: 1806mg
Soybeans: 1797mg
Beans, white: 1795mg
Lima beans: 1724mg
Mushrooms, shiitake, dried: 1534mg
Beans, kidney: 1490mg
Beans, black: 1483mg
Beans, adzuki: 1254mg
Apricots, dried: 1162mg
Tomato paste: 1014mg
Split peas: 981mg
Lentils: 955mg
Chickpeas: 875mg
Raisins: 825mg
Peanuts: 776mg
Dates, medjool: 696mg
Waterchestnuts: 584mg
Avocados, raw, California Potassium: 507mg

Bananas: (only) 358 mg

Basically, beans, tomatoes and other fruit (and of course bananas). I wouldn't worry too much about the banana equivalent dose.

I love that you have Vegemite in your pantry <3

interesting article. one more reason to pick out the Brazil nuts, too.

All natural potassium is radioactive, you need it more than you should fear natural background radiation, and you aren't going to absorb any more of the radioactive isotope (K-40) than proportionate to your body potassium requirement.

You're going to expose yourself to similarly trivial amounts of radiation by sharing your bed with someone else. Should that stop you?

not necessarily, but it could come in handy as an excuse.

introduced persuasive public speaking by trying to convince students to drink unappetizing-looking but super healthy smoothie in a recycled glass container with the following ingredients:

banana (1)
guayaba pulp
100% not from concentrate cranberry juice
mango (just a few little frozen chunks)
carrot juice
huge bunch of spinach

got 3/9 to sample it! those who were willing to try said that it was tart and tasty, not "gross" or "disgusting" as they had originally thought

that sounds delicious.

it is delicious! just grassy/green enough, tart, and satisfying.

I'm pretty sure I have perfected this perfect smoothie -- I subbed raspberries for the mango this time and it's just like liquid spring: tart, grassy, bright, a little bit sweet.

my family will always be grateful for the krispy kale on this and previous nn threads.

Where do I find guayaba pulp, is the question.

oh man i was just reading about something with guayaba in it but now i don't remember where/what.

I'm betting the Grand Mart would come through on this one. Or the Thai market in Silver Spring, maybe.

Mexican stores should have it in the frozen section -- it's like a thin packet, Goya brand.

Not to be confused with guava paste, which is canned (sometimes) and very very sweet. Delicious, but not the same thing.
Pulp http://www.foodfacts.com/images/items/041331090728.jpg
Paste: http://images.bizrate.com/resize?sq=80&uid=2245090008

Also these little yummies, sometimes called bocadillo (pretty good for long bike rides/hikes/athletic activities because they're portable, wrapped individually, and +/- healthy)
http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/244774907/Bocadillo_Snacks.jpg

Oh those are so good. You get them either sugar coated or between sweet cracker-like things in my neighborhood. <3

guyssss momo sushi in old town had the BEST fish going on last night. i've been there before but for some reason this time was WAY better. maybe the best hamachi i've ever had.

haha oops i meant to put that on dc thread.

hamachi is my favorite, which would probably make Steve Shasta Scoff.

OK so I need some serious NN inspiration and support here. I have been in Israel eating a ton of healthy food (I have never seen a nation eat so many vegetables for BREAKFAST), but also a lot of pastries and cheese cheese cheese.

Mom was showing me some pics she took of me covered in mud at the Dead Sea and I was OMG WTF UH FUCK. I used to be "willowy" and now I am, like, STURDY. Which is not the worst thing, and I'm not truly overweight, but I'd like to move back in the willowy direction.

Also, some of my pants are too tight.

Why would I scoff at Hamachi? While it's not my favorite but that I have eaten my share in the past.

We are approaching the end of the season for it for real hamachi lovers, it starts shedding it's winter belly layers as it migrates south. Well, that's wild hamachi, which is pretty rare to find these days unless you go to a sushi bar that has unusual fish distributors.

dude quincie you are a stick!

some of my pants are also too tight. i blame: work stress, not as much gym time, eating some cheese, and living with a boy who loses weight without trying and therefore likes to eat a lot.

my trainer 'broke up' with me yesterday, 45 min before our appt. ok, he got promoted to 'fitness manager' at another location bla bla but basically now i need to find another trainer to redeem my remaining sessions after which i want another gym because this one sucks.

i need nn motivation! quincie, maybe we can start a support group?

Yes! The fiance also has the "loses weight without trying and therefore likes to eat a lot" thing; he also runs 20+ miles a week. And we both love to eat. A lot. It's kind of a shared hobby.

I think my strategy is to do sensible breakfast and lunch, which I've been slacking on, and do dinner at home at least 5 nights a week. We've been eating out/doing take-out a lot due to business and shit. When we cook at home, we tend to do lean meat and veg--a good thing!

If we lived closer we could share a trainer! I think that is my only hope for getting on the fitness bandwagon, at this point.

seriously i have been working through my existential crisis by cooking and that is just a really bad idea.

hmm, we should talk ideas on saturday...

I'm in! We're both ilxdchix who like food, have sig others who can eat more than we can, like the booze, and have jobs that take up a lot of time/energy. One diff is that you like the exercise and I don't (yet--that needs to change for me!).

i have a terrible attitude right now.

nyt running a profile on the dude who did the sugar: bitter truth video that sanpaku likes

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html

The author Gary Taubes has run-ins with Robert Lustig before his current NN notoriety.

elaborate ploy to raise lustig's credibility, imo

hey sanpaku, the article mentions that inuits in the 1960s rarely got malignant cancer. yet my understanding is that inuits have a rather protein-heavy diet. how does that square with your beliefs?

I really liked this article, kinda challoppy but with relative conditionals:

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/04/how-sugar-affects-the-body-in-motion/?partner=rss&emc=rss

I dunno if it's a placebo effect or not but I've been cutting out fructose/refined sugar since I read that taubes article and I'm feelin pretty good

I'm not a biker/athlete though

someone please motivate me to get back on the nn wagon!
where is cutty to shame me into shape?
i miss seattle (excuses, excuses, i know).

tehresa I totally need motivation, too.

PANTS DON'T FIT FUCK MEEEEEEEEE

On the bright side, I have had a wonderful time eating my way into the next size. But enough is enough.

srsly i am way scared of pulling out the summer clothes right now because i know it is going to be NAGL :(

what are the most budget-friendly nazi foods??

i tend to prefer the v lean meats and vegetables over the super healthy grains, but sadly the lovely healthy meats are usually the most expensive!

For price, my guess would be quinoa, lentils, kale?

i guess... what are the least expensive, least carb-heavy nn-approved foods? is the more appropriate question.

kale is otm. love it. wish it didn't require going to stores outside my normal routine to get it :(

considering bloomspot $99 fitness bootcamp deal... silly? it'd be 6am m-w-f for a month.

that's roughly the same cost as a yoga class, right? it's up to you if you want to be there at 6am. not sure i could do that, but hey

this is a really stupid question, but i am going to ask it anyway:

if i blend up two large handfuls of spinach into a smoothie, does that spinach have the same nutritional value as if i ate the spinach and, um, chewed it up with my teeth?

good lord, that is such a yahoo answers question
i am figuring that it has to be the same, right? i'm not cooking it or changing it, just blending it up with other stuff

i feel like it should? as long as you drink everything in the cup and don't leave bits of spinach behind?

I guess my question is related to juicing, which I know is NOT the same nutritional value as just eating the greens straight because it removes fiber, etc. I am not running it through a juicer, though -- I'm just using an immersion blender to blend things up. In my mind, blending must be just like (I realize this is gross) pre-chewing rather than extracting, like a juicer.

i would think so!

The technical term is "premasticated," which I only know because it has been implicated as a possible route of HIV transmission in cultures in which it is practiced. But anyway, ya'll are OTM that it makes no difference whether it is you or the blender that does the masticating!