Cate Blanchett to play Bob Dylan in an upcoming film.

No, but that sounds like a very good idea indeed.

The prosthetics in the deleted Cate/Dylan nude scene deserve an award of their own.

o_0

I could've sworn Ryan Schreiber was in the Newport Folk Festival scene.

man what a dope movie

i need some kind of annotated companion cause i know im missing like 90% of the inside baseball

I wd bet I missed 60% of it, and it don't much matter

(u might wanna google Ann Powers + INT if nec, max)

I don't really know much about Dylan, most of the songs in this I was hearing for the first time, but I had read the autobiography at least and it was interesting to see how things I knew about him got translated into these other characters.

This movie is amazing by the way, I loved how it deconstructs the Rock biopic, which is always about this layering of times, which is always in love with eras and costumes and a mangled nostalgia and sort of made that analogous to the Dylan who constructs the present from a past that telescopes further and further into the past, It's just obsessed with that overlap montage and flashback that makes up the crescendos of these movies and makes a whole movie that surfs along on this. It finds its own poetry of pastiche too, the Christian Bale bits aren't really funny the way they seem to be, they're stranger and reminded me a lot of Superstar. In face out of any director Haynes' remakes camp as something more personal and moving, all that jumbled gibberish that the Moore/Baez character spouts (perfect casting, so perfect) isn't really ridiculous.

Sorry, I just watched it.

In face out of any director Haynes' remakes camp as something more personal and moving, all that jumbled gibberish that the Moore/Baez character spouts (perfect casting, so perfect) isn't really ridiculous.

I'm not sure what this means, but I'd like to know.

The only reason Far From Heaven isn't horrible is because its so serious about camp. It neither turns the campier elements of Sirk into a bawdy spoof or strips it away, instead its always a slipping mask. Its also interesting to me that these both have Julianne Moore, because I think Haynes and Moore definitely bring out the best in each other, she has this strange timbre to her voice and a tendency to be a bit Meryl Streep, but with Haynes she's lacerating, so controlled that quivering tone is laughing/crying.

The bio-doc trappings are all played up, the set-ups, that daft photo of Moore doing Baez, the weirdly portentous "he was a genius" crap, but there's something really harrowing about it, not in spite or because of the set up, but both. Like I think the whole movie collides these fragmented elements in the hope that something will make sense in the cracks and overlaps. Like when Richard Gere finds the guitar case.

Story one: Robert Pattinson - dyed blond - is a new wave punk high school teacher fresh out of university, dealing with the ignorance and illiteracy of his students, one of whom won't stop flirting with him.

Story two: Julia Roberts plays the blond, male leader of a pop group making his first movie after achieving stardom. Annoyed by its poor quality, he wants to write his own movie but he's pestered by resentful bandmates and hangers-on who won't stop saying how smart and sexy he is.

Story three: A young African boy with blond hair saves money to buy an electric bass and move to America. Imagines performing with musical legends ranging from Hendrix to Marsalis. "And what music will you play, little one?" "I will play everything."

Story four: Successful jazz bassist Owen Wilson and philanthropist Gwyenth Paltrow tour the world with his band, fuck.

Story five: Bill Nighy wanders the English countryside, playing his lute.

i would watch this

i can't actually work out who it is

lucky

oh wait, duh

Bill Nighy wanders the English countryside, playing his lute.

seriously i would watch this on youtube for hours

the movie ends with nighy stepping around a small blue turtle

'psycho 98' > 'far from heaven'
― That one guy that hit it and quit it

OTM

Haha! It took me almost five minutes to get that!

possible linking device for da croupier's story: intercuts from an epic tantric sex scene in which rutger hauer is having intercourse with an unseen figure who is revealed, over the closing credits, to be himself.

Everybody knows I'm not a folk singer.

I hadn't seen this film until a couple of weeks ago, when I checked the dvd out of the library. I was surprised at how much humor it had. The not-funny parts were ok, too, but just ok.

For the sake of reference: I never was a hardcore fanboy and was too young to ride the Dylan bandwagon during the protest-song first wave. I do like Dylan's music and I've listened to it off and on since about 1970. I met his music via his first Greatest Hits album, in mid high school. I worked my backwards to the earlier stuff, then we both moved on thru the 1970s stuff. I stopped paying much attention after his come-to-Jesus moment.

I think of his lyrics as highly evocative, but not very good poetry, which is something of a conundrum as the two usually go together. IMO, his outstanding quality as an artist is that his songs are fun to sing. His reputation for profundity has never been merited, but he is very entertaining.

I'm more surprised there's been no mention of the 'non-linear' 6 characters.

i.e. All of the characters could exist at the same time. None of them are meant to be 'the real Dylan' of any duration, more that they resemble 'part' of him at any point in time. (The meeting of Gere and the young lad is not an anomaly, not really!)

The Heath Ledger one seemed more true to how Dylan is in real life.

Yep, just watched it, last night.

Any news on those 2DVD extras?

also the heath ledger one played the christian bale one in his biopic

quite.

if only Heath had lived to do the upcoming Bale biopic

Just saw this last night. I thought Haynes should have had Cate Blanchett play Dylan/Jude as a woman, rather than her impersonating a man. It would have fit, no?

rescreened this last night--still loved it but i thot the ending was sort of weak--also going to acapulco scene just doesnt do it for me at all, i guess cuz i cant get out of the "wtf mmj" headspace

second time 'round I was bothered only by MMJ

MMJ?

dont think i ever finished this - found it kinda bloodless

My Morning Jacket

had no idea that was the guy, didn't bother me a bit

great!!!!!!!!

i have yet to meet anyone in this life who thinks dylan should not have gone electric. who are these people?

― gff, Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:13 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark

heh i was thinking the same thing during that scene - maybe its just that nobody today would admit to booing him then

not sure that this is a great movie for people who like dylan's music but don't know much about his life (ie. me) - watching it i was like 'i dont really get it but its interesting' but reading this thread is making me feel like i missed out on *everything* since i wasn't howling with delight like many of you apparently were - wish i at least watched DLB first

that said, if this came out when i was 17-18 it wouldve been my favorite movie in the world

also bruce greenwood was my fav dude in this

saw this last night, at last.

I thought it tremendous. The potency, the richness of pastiche.

i watched this again, first time since it came out, inspired by the poll over on ILM.

i dont have anything terribly intelligent to say about it, but i loved it this time. only off note is the sonorous sounds of eddie vedder doing "all along the watchtower" over stock footage of vietnam. cant decide if that's a cliche or a knowing cliche, but doesn't seem to work either way.

this is sorta obvious in retrospect, but thought connecting "finger-pointing" folk dylan to angry christian dylan via the Bale character was insightful.

would love to read an in-depth analysis of this. i really enjoy movies that seem to be "coded" in some way. like, all the different characters have a different category (poet, prophet, fake, etc.) but the Cate Blanchett one isn't included in the line up with the gun shot sounds and, as far as i can tell, isn't really given a category in that way (perhaps "Ghost" if i was hearing things right). need to watch again.

it's basically the same narrative/central conflict as Velvet Goldmine, just without the Christian Bale character

need to see that too!

I think its fantastic but it def has its detractors (primarily people who get upset by how many liberties it takes with the ostensible "facts" but then I think those liberties are precisely the point)

INT or VG? i guess both. watching this with a dylan-skeptic who kept asking about verisimilitude was funny since it made me realize how many things were tweaked and re-named "desolation row" style. probably difficult to get a strong sense of it without a minimal grounding in dylan-lore but they found it quite affecting anyhow.

I was referring to VG there but both films make it really clear that playing with the facts, the mutability of the subject matter, is central to the films' premises.

Forgot Charlotte Gainsbourg was in this.

They actually screened 35mm prints of this at Metrograph and MoMA recently. It was quite a nostalgia trip to see it again - I vividly remember seeing it when it came out, and I still have the ticket stub (now faded but just barely legible) tacked to my old bedroom wall. Back then, I was almost alone in the theater. (I didn't realize until the end that a couple was sitting in the back.) I was blown away, but it was kind of sad to see the film do so poorly as the screening I went to turned out to be the last before the theater booked a different movie. I think it had ran for at best two weeks. This time, it was a packed screening, and it still holds up for me. I think it's one of Todd Haynes's best films and the best film outside of D.A. Pennebaker's films that I've seen on Dylan. It's clearly a movie that understands his work very well and knows how to reflect that dramatically and cinematically rather than spelling it all out. (Even the few minutes of pseudo-documentary interviews are more about the way Dylan was idolized by his '60s fans.)

xps Also, a bit late, but here's Jim Hoberman's write-up back when it came out:

https://www.villagevoice.com/2007/11/13/like-a-complete-unknown-im-not-there-and-the-changing-face-of-bob-dylan-on-film/

rewatched this last night and laughed out loud when cate-as-dylan first thrills then destroys brian jones by recognising him at a party and introducing him as "brian jones from that groovy covers band"

i like haynes even when's being a bit leadenly DO-YOU-SEE but there's maybe less of that in this movie than any of his other movies?

(except for the destructive journalist being called jones, i mean i see why you feel you can't dodge that but YES WE GET IT TODD)

ranking the dylans: cate, marcus carl franklin, whishaw, gere, bale, ledger

cutest allen ginsberg ever: david cross lol

He has a couple of DO YOU SEEs in May-December.