I wish...if you've seen some director's cut I'm not aware of, please let me know.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 03:35 (thirteen years ago) link
IIRC she doesn't take him out, but does wear a lot of impressive tank tops
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link
we do get to see her booTs however
http://www.celebarazzi.com/content/Thumbnails/L/Laura_San-Giacomo/Laura_San_Giacomo_Sex_Lies_02.jpg
I love the contrast between Spader's acting and his mullet.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 12:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Soderbergh talks more about retiring and all.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 June 2011 02:30 (thirteen years ago) link
And the trailer for Haywire (the spy movie with Gina Carano) is out: http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/independent/haywire/
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Saturday, 23 July 2011 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link
huh, weird. it looks like it was made very cheaply. and it almost looks like a pastiche of a straight-to-video action film.
soderbergh is very smart. he reminds me of hal hartley in how in interviews he comes across as a bit self-regarding and pompous but also as very unsentimental and hard-nosed. and extremely smart and articulate. i actually think they have a lot in common -- both seem to view movies mostly in terms of the possibilities for visual invention. and both see filmmaking as largely a question of problem-solving. that's part of the "hard nosed" bit.
that said i seldom find in soderbergh's films the sort of moment-to-moment inventiveness that i find in the best hartley films (mostly from the early 1990s). too often his visual intelligence seems put in the service of these kind of half-baked "schemes" that are somewhat interesting to contemplate but don't provide a great deal of visceral pleasure.
his statement that he feels bored with mainstream narrative filmmaking should probably be taken at face value--he's bored. but it's hard not to find it a bit hubristic. i mean, lots of great filmmakers never seemed to get bored with narrative filmmaking. it can't be because they were necessarily less intelligent than soderbergh. what he's really admitting here is not the limit of narrative filmmaking but his own limits as a filmmaker. he'd probably own up to that too, but because he doesn't frame it that way he comes across as pretentious.
― by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 23 July 2011 03:35 (thirteen years ago) link
i was going to say, i can see "pastiche of a straight-to-video action film" being another one of soderbergh's "concepts," much like "erin brokhovich" was very self-consciously him "doing" an inspiring movie-of-the-week thing.
― by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 23 July 2011 03:36 (thirteen years ago) link
to clarify, maybe: both hartley and soderbergh openly discuss thinking about films in terms of their graphic potential, in terms of the image.
― by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 23 July 2011 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link
his statement that he feels bored with mainstream narrative filmmaking should probably be taken at face value--he's bored. but it's hard not to find it a bit hubristic. i mean, lots of great filmmakers never seemed to get bored with narrative filmmaking.
i know, right? this is my least favorite thing for a filmmaker to say, i think. it infuriates me. i get bored with YOU, steven soderbergh!
― horseshoe, Saturday, 23 July 2011 04:23 (thirteen years ago) link
in communist russia... etc.
― by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 23 July 2011 04:27 (thirteen years ago) link
and Soderberg has proven an expert in narrative filmmaking (sex, lies, and videotape, Erin Brockovich).
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 July 2011 11:28 (thirteen years ago) link
i agree, he's made some excellent films -- it's just an odd thing to say that he feels that he's exhausted the format. i believe he's sincere, and probably humble about it too, but it comes across as hubristic just the same.
― by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 23 July 2011 11:32 (thirteen years ago) link
i think you're allowed to be bored by something that other people didn't get bored by
― graveshitwave (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 July 2011 11:47 (thirteen years ago) link
no
― horseshoe, Saturday, 23 July 2011 14:01 (thirteen years ago) link
not allowed
it doesnt bother me because i dont think hes saying other people are suckers for being into narrative filmmaking - i think there are infinitely more obnoxious ways he could go about saying that he's bored with directing
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 23 July 2011 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
also yeah that trailer looks *exactly* like a DTV action movie except with big stars. it's one of the more surreal trailers ive seen in recent memory actually
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i_qxQztHRI (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 23 July 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah it seems like a category error
anyway yeah sorry don't know why i went on and on about that quote. he seems like a decent, sincere sort who's only saying that he himself is a bit bored with what he's been up to.
― by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 23 July 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I've been seeing this guy at my lab a lot recently. People are ridiculously deferential to him and he drives a beaten up old VW bug.
― Patrice Leclerc Delacroix Poussin (admrl), Saturday, 23 July 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link
So, there you go
― Patrice Leclerc Delacroix Poussin (admrl), Saturday, 23 July 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
that's because he's driving the original herbie.
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Saturday, 23 July 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link
is that a euphemism
― Patrice Leclerc Delacroix Poussin (admrl), Saturday, 23 July 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link
pass the herbie from the left hand side
― by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 23 July 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Off to join Bill Watterson or something.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 August 2011 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Passive aggressive notes
― jed_, Monday, 29 August 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
this reminded me how much i enjoyed getting away with it.
― caek, Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link
seeing the byline reminded me how much i don't enjoy dan kois
― a fake wannabe trying to be a pimp (history mayne), Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link
well yes that article is a list of glib thoughts and anecdotes. but the book is good!
― caek, Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah it's a good book. i didn't read the article. tbh im not even sure if i've ever read anything by dan kois except the one where he says foreign movies are for posers, which i power-skimmed.
― a fake wannabe trying to be a pimp (history mayne), Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
poser.
schizopolis is ~10x better than it has any right to be
― caek, Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Kent Jones does a fine takedown of Kois in the new Film Comment
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link
is there a soderbergh poll?
― caek, Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link
shd leave it till he's retired / haywire has come out
― a fake wannabe trying to be a pimp (history mayne), Thursday, 15 September 2011 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link
sure, just wondering if i'd missed the thread
― caek, Thursday, 15 September 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link
that would have been a disaster
steven soderPOLLgh is the one to search for
― a fake wannabe trying to be a pimp (history mayne), Thursday, 15 September 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Getting Away With It is very smart and enjoyable and one of the main reasons I'll always give Soderbergh the benefit of the doubt.
― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Thursday, 15 September 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Sad irony having that Slate article slathered in ads for Moneyball.
― Corn Maze to the Dark Side (Eazy), Thursday, 15 September 2011 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't have a problem with ranking OOS and The Limey as his beset, and Kois is OTM about Traffic and his Best Director Oscar ("it's a helpful reminder that, to the Academy, "best directing" usually means 'most directing'").
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 September 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link
sex lies & videotape is still brilliant imo
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
although weirdly for such an important film, it doesnt seem to have retained its stature
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 18 November 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
http://timeoutchicago.com/arts-culture/film/15082547/steven-soderbergh-interview
― do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Thursday, 19 January 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
hm, re-editing 'kafka' sounds interesting i guess?
glad hes not into super-quick-cutting action steez
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 19 January 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
Did not know his new flick stars Gina Carano. Infinitely more interested in seeing it now.
― Put another Juggle in, in the Juggalodeon (kingfish), Thursday, 19 January 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
new flick looks *~dope~*
― omar little, Thursday, 19 January 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
heard bad things
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
don't care
Soderbergh should make another "Schizopolis," not this commercial garbage. He's been a whore since he started working with George (C)loon(e)y.
― Static Electricity, Thursday, 19 January 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
consider yourself 'snapped', george, if you're reading tonight
― (govtname)mac (darraghmac), Thursday, 19 January 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link