NRO's The Corner: Rolling Bile, Spit, and Gnash Thread

i like how 'now' is italicized

not always so, apparently.

funny thing about that for me is that in high school a friend and i made this movie (or rather started; never finished) where we played insufferable "hot young turks of philosophy" who'd co-written a book called philosophy... WOW and were discussing it on talk shows. then dostoevsky and camus (also played by us) came forward in time and got involved in a complicated love-quadrilateral kind of thing w/ the modern philosophers and a couple of girls, which is where the overlap here ends.

which one of you would play Mark Steyn now?

neither, but i had a couple stock players who might have been appropriate.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/262100/people-want-know-john-derbyshire

John Derbyshire commits politically incorrect crimethink, misinterpretation of Google results

"What’s the point even"

There are many points! If you proceed from the assumption that different groups have real, meaningful differences in IQ and behavior, that might well influence immigration policy.

"does America and do Americans, even red, white and blue conservative Americans, really want to be more like Japan, including aspects of Japanese culture that may run contrary to American values? How does America even go about becoming like Japan given that it’s full of Americans?"

I have no problem being more like Japan. But we're not doing that, because we're not bringing Japanese to America. I have big problems being like Africa and the Middle East. How does America go about being like Africa and the Middle East? By bringing lots of them here, which is exactly what we're doing.

The New Orleans/Japan analogy pivots upon race, but culture, and the ideology of culture plays a role as well. Hence, I believe that if Katrina had hit New Orleans in 1955 rather than in 2005 the aftermath would have been more like what we've seen in Japan. The reason for this is that prior to the cultural collapse of the late 60s, a Judeo-Christian/Greco-Roman/Anglo-Germanic culture was normative in America, even among blacks. This cultural umbrella served to checkmate the destructive tendencies inherent in sub-Saharan African culture.

what a bunch of fucking assholes

lmao @ Isn't it amazing how liberals have to turn everything into a discussion about race. That and there unshakeable conviction that people who disagree with them are evil.

guess what else people want to know about "miley cyrus naked" About 1,400,000 results (0.07 seconds)

it is kind of comforting to know that the right is still scared of the hippity hop music with the blank blank chains and the tires that bounce too much

for some reason the thing that bugs me the most is how all these people use this I Am A Thoughtful Scholar language ("proceed from the assumption", "pivots upon", "normative", "hence") while haphazardly comparing huge complex systems with no actual data and no attention at all to any factors whatsoever except THEY'VE GOT SQUINTY EYES THERE AND BIG LIPS HERE, HENCE THE NORMATIVE PIVOT PROCEEDS FROM THE ASSUMPTION. like there's youtube commenters who just yell good ol racist slurs and then there's NRO commenters who think that they're sophisticated analysts.

(but then i guess that's been how it works ever since william f buckley dutifully wrote down three or four aquinas quotes to insert here and there in between stupid ideas)

Judeo-Christian/Greco-Roman/Anglo-Germanic

take that, frogs

being a hopeless masochist I actually trawled through the results for the broadest possible interpretation of Derbyshire's search term and the entries related to his stupid non-point disappeared by page 30 or so

some commenters on NRO do good work

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03/14/11 16:45
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Searching the distinct query (with quotes!) "Why is there no looting in Japan?" returns a paltry 1,540 results.

One of the top 10 is from the Free Republic, and the other is from St@rmfr#nt. Derb, you're not in very good company at the minute...

(googleproofing added)

yeah im still horrified by that greenblatt article - when did using the n-word to refer to members of NWA become in any way ok? And what the fuck is calling ice cube a grumpier stepin fetchit supposed to mean?

for some reason the thing that bugs me the most is how all these people use this I Am A Thoughtful Scholar language ("proceed from the assumption", "pivots upon", "normative", "hence") while haphazardly comparing huge complex systems with no actual data and no attention at all to any factors whatsoever except THEY'VE GOT SQUINTY EYES THERE AND BIG LIPS HERE, HENCE THE NORMATIVE PIVOT PROCEEDS FROM THE ASSUMPTION. like there's youtube commenters who just yell good ol racist slurs and then there's NRO commenters who think that they're sophisticated analysts.

so otm i want to cry

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/262162/people-want-know-contd-john-derbyshire

complete with a Richard Lynn citation about "national IQ"

In what way am I a Bad Person? I work hard, pay my taxes, and observe the speed limits. I am loyal to my friends and faithful to my wife. I nurture my children and try to guide them to good citizenship. I strive to practice good manners and consideration when dealing with strangers. I do not covet my neighbor’s ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is my neighbor’s. In what respect am I a Bad Person? This is not a rhetorical question.

Thus does science prove that John Derbyshire is a Good Person.

repressed ass coveter

oh my god derbyshire is so dumb

My favorite commenter in the Derbyshire post:

03/15/11 11:51

Let's give some credit to General MacArthur's reorganization of Japan and its psyche.

i wouldn't say that Derbyshire is dumb so much as he is Colonel Blimp given human form

chrisrock.gif SCUSE ME DUMBSHIT, YOU DON'T GET A VICTORY LAP FOR DOING WHAT YOU'RE 'SUPPOSED TO'. /unlock caps

In what way am I a Bad Person? I work hard, pay my taxes, and observe the speed limits. I am loyal to my friends and faithful to my wife. I nurture my children and try to guide them to good citizenship. I strive to practice good manners and consideration when dealing with strangers. I do not covet my neighbor’s ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is my neighbor’s. In what respect am I a Bad Person? This is not a rhetorical question.

"I have good manners. I say thank you and goodbye, and when I see dead things laying around I bury them."

(Can't remember where I got that from, but it's the first thing I thought of when I read the thing in italics.)

currently linked to from cnn.com front page: http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/15/why-is-there-no-looting-in-japan/?hpt=T1

interesting to compare the comments when opened as an editorial on a more homogenous 'news' forum

maybe I'm dumb but why would this no-looting-in-japan question even occur to anyone in the face of such devastation and human suffering?

sure it's the internet and all but I read NRO these days and wonder what the hell is wrong w/these people. besides the obvious...

I think the immediate parallel people are trying to draw is to Katrina, and the subtler suggestion in some of these comment threads is "they aren't looting in Japan because they're not black"

i'm going with- they're not looting because wealth is more evenly distributed in Japan

i mean there are probably actual cultural differences between america and japan or between louisiana and fukushima prefecture or whatever that might be useful in "answering" this "question", if indeed there is "no looting" and if you're ready to control for all kinds of other non-human-related differences between the situations, and if you're actually interested, but NRO is neither.

^^^this

(because that would involve actual rigorous careful curious sociology, which doesn't feel nearly as good as making permanently vague references to "the destructive tendencies inherent in sub-Saharan culture" and how they were brought disastrously to the american surface following "the cultural collapse of the 60s")

In what way am I a Bad Person? I work hard, pay my taxes, and observe the speed limits.

wait, i thought the last two of these were bad things to do according to NRO

This afternoon our local AM conservative station's guest host brought up ("Just a thought here -- here me out...") the "differences" between the Japanese response to natural disasters and "ours." He was tactful enough to not go beyond this generalization and allow his callers to articulate the subtle racism. "The Japanese are so clean and ordered; they're taught this stuff since they were kids," swore one caller, a self-identified "lifelong resident of Tampa, Florida."

I wonder if conservative talk radio receives faxes and emails every morning with that day's talking points. I swear these things are coordinated.

dude i wouldn't doubt it

It's like this lifelong resident of Tampa, Florida got his impressions of Japan from Ozu films.

btw one of the big relevant-to-looting differences between katrina and the tsunami is that japan has actual emergency services that actually respond to a national crisis instead of dithering for three days

or however long it was that everyone was drowning and wondering where the helicopters were

clearly we need our own Yakuza.

btw one of the big relevant-to-looting differences between katrina and the tsunami is that japan has actual emergency services that actually respond to a national crisis instead of dithering for three days

It's that Oriental efficiency again.

if only we'd "brought" more of them here

Like we did this man:

http://heatherpickerell.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/mr-yunioshi.jpg

Happy Birthday

March 22, 2011 9:38 A.M.

By Shannen Coffin

Let us all take a moment from trying to decipher the United States’ current foreign policy to wish the Corner’s room mother, Kathryn Jean Lopez (or as my kids call her “Auntie Miss K-Lo”), a joyous anniversary of her birth. She celebrates her 25th birthday again today.

Display name variations in 3 . . . 2 . . .

“Auntie Miss K-Lo”

okay what the fuck

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/262662/london-journal-part-i-jay-nordlinger?page=2

Nordlinger interrupts his own reminiscences of a dead friend for some prime right-wing resentment

The bit about the honours system favouring Marxists is parallel-universe crazy. "Can’t the country give honors to people who like Britain more than they do Stalin?" Yes, like all the time.

Liz Taylor

March 23, 2011 10:09 A.M.

By Mona Charen

She may have gained a few too many pounds in her later years. And she may have said some silly things. But there are two things worth remembering about Liz Taylor — she was, in the beauty department, a bird of paradise. Second, though she endured a great deal of ridicule for her — was it eight marriages — she explained that she just couldn’t bring herself to have “affairs.” If she was romantically involved with someone, it had “to lead to the altar.” Seems quaint today. She will now enjoy the company of the angels — the only creatures that can match her for looks.