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Mark Goldblatt is a real winner.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 14 March 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Is HBO's Def Poetry really that bad?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 14 March 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Goldblatt currently resides in midtown Manhattan, where he keeps a low profile and varies his route to work often.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 14 March 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

don't know where i thought that paragraph was going but "hbo's def poetry" was not it

difficult listening hour, Monday, 14 March 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah I wasn't really expecting that.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 14 March 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Later tonight I'm gonna squirt lube on my pizza.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 March 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.greenpointpress.org/gb_book_sloth.html

his latest novel looks like some kind of satire of eco/calvino/borges type shit

john podhoretz liked it!

goole, Monday, 14 March 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

lolling at all the racists in MA coming out in support of this book

xp: oh my god, I'd better tell my brother that he is the nadir of black culture

ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Monday, 14 March 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

our cube walls at work are super low so I can't full-on belly laugh like I want to, but suffice to say NO, HBO's Def Poetry is nothing like what this dude is describing

ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Monday, 14 March 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Does Holly actually exist, or is she a figment of the narrator's imagination? Does Zezel actually exist, or is he an alter-ego who takes over the narrator?s journal? Does the narrator have a name, or is he just an excuse to ask questions? (And who's writing this cover copy, come to think of it?) Nothing of the sort concerns Detective Lacuna.

detective lacuna

difficult listening hour, Monday, 14 March 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

"If institutional racism is defined as a concerted effort to deprive African Americans of basic human and civil rights, it does not exist. Let me repeat that: Institutional racism does not exist. Let me italicize it: Institutional racism does not exist. Let me set it apart, a paragraph unto itself . . . Institutional racism does not exist."

welp

goole, Monday, 14 March 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

detective lacuna

― difficult listening hour, Monday, March 14, 2011 1:12 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i know, right? i can just see this guy getting into a big argument in grad school with a very bright young woman who can't stand him, and it winds around to him screaming at her "FUCKING COSMICOMIX. I WIPE MY FUCKING ASS WITH COSMICOMIX. DO YOU HEAR ME."

goole, Monday, 14 March 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

he used "unto" in a sentence?

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 March 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

my father was threatening to write a satirical novel exposing the politics of state university English department after he retired (from, you guessed it, a state university English department)

ty NRO dude for living out my father's dream & for sparing me the embarrassment of him realizing it

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 14 March 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link

ugh why

horseshoe, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 00:26 (thirteen years ago) link

From John Podhoretz, editor of Commentary:
"Mark Goldblatt is one of America's most uncompromising literary iconoclasts."

basically all i need to hear

max, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Theology

In a pair of essays for the British journal Philosophy Now, Goldblatt addressed the subject of rational language and the existence of God.
In "Did the World Have a Beginning?"[17] he argues that the temporal world cannot always have existed. An actual infinity is impossible, he reasons, because infinity is a potential value that cannot be reached. A line, for example, may be extended infinitely--that is, without a limit--but at no point will the actual measure of the line become infinite. Likewise, time itself, whether measured by minutes or millennia, cannot comprise an actual infinity. Therefore, the temporal world cannot have existed forever.
In a follow up article, "Talking About God", [18] Goldblatt teases out the ramifications of his conclusion about the impossibility of an actual infinity with respect to the concept of an infinite God. Since we know that the temporal world cannot have existed forever, it therefore must have come into existence "in the beginning". It cannot have come into existence without an efficient cause (since that would violate the law of causality, one of the basic laws of thought). That First Cause, Goldblatt states, following the Cosmological Argument of Thomas Aquinas, is what all men call God. But this realization leads to a paradox. On the one hand, it would seem God cannot be infinite either since an actual infinity is impossible. On the other hand, God cannot have come into existence since that would require a cause prior to the First Cause and lead to an infinite regress of causes . . . which, in turn, would comprise an actual infinity (which cannot be). Therefore, we must suppose an infinite God as the First Cause of the world--even though an actual infinity violates the laws of thought. But whatever violates the laws of thought cannot be subject to rational language; it cannot be said to exist any more than a sentient stone (i.e. a sentient non-sentient being) can be said to exist. (At the moment a stone becomes sentient, in other words, it ceases to be a stone.) Goldblatt concludes that two theological statements, which seem irreconcilable, are nevertheless necessarily true: 1) God created the world; 2) God does not exist.

max, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link

he probably should have put detective lacuna on the case

max, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 01:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Though often classified as a conservative or even a neocon, Goldblatt has on occasion veered from right of center positions. He has been a steadfast supporter of the war against totalitarian Islam [1][2][3][4][5] and a fierce critic of hip hop culture, [6][7][8] postmodernism[9] and multiculturalism, [10] but he has also argued in favor of legalizing of gay marriage [11] and upholding the Roe v. Wade decision[12] and has written sympathetically about Barack Obama. [13][14]

max, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 01:03 (thirteen years ago) link

that cover is onion sunday supplement worthy

hipster bluppies (symsymsym), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 01:26 (thirteen years ago) link

there is nobody who knows the hip-hop idiom as well as michelle malkin

hipster bluppies (symsymsym), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Baudrillard's problem with reality!

Mordy, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link

From John Podhoretz, editor of Commentary:
"Mark Goldblatt is one of America's most uncompromising literary iconoclasts."

basically all i need to hear

someday I'm going to personally reward you for the many, many lols you have given me, and this will be one of them

five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 01:31 (thirteen years ago) link

i like how 'now' is italicized

hipster bluppies (symsymsym), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 01:48 (thirteen years ago) link

not always so, apparently.

funny thing about that for me is that in high school a friend and i made this movie (or rather started; never finished) where we played insufferable "hot young turks of philosophy" who'd co-written a book called philosophy... WOW and were discussing it on talk shows. then dostoevsky and camus (also played by us) came forward in time and got involved in a complicated love-quadrilateral kind of thing w/ the modern philosophers and a couple of girls, which is where the overlap here ends.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 01:58 (thirteen years ago) link

which one of you would play Mark Steyn now?

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 02:00 (thirteen years ago) link

neither, but i had a couple stock players who might have been appropriate.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/262100/people-want-know-john-derbyshire

John Derbyshire commits politically incorrect crimethink, misinterpretation of Google results

"Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 04:23 (thirteen years ago) link

"What’s the point even"

There are many points! If you proceed from the assumption that different groups have real, meaningful differences in IQ and behavior, that might well influence immigration policy.

"does America and do Americans, even red, white and blue conservative Americans, really want to be more like Japan, including aspects of Japanese culture that may run contrary to American values? How does America even go about becoming like Japan given that it’s full of Americans?"

I have no problem being more like Japan. But we're not doing that, because we're not bringing Japanese to America. I have big problems being like Africa and the Middle East. How does America go about being like Africa and the Middle East? By bringing lots of them here, which is exactly what we're doing.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link

The New Orleans/Japan analogy pivots upon race, but culture, and the ideology of culture plays a role as well. Hence, I believe that if Katrina had hit New Orleans in 1955 rather than in 2005 the aftermath would have been more like what we've seen in Japan. The reason for this is that prior to the cultural collapse of the late 60s, a Judeo-Christian/Greco-Roman/Anglo-Germanic culture was normative in America, even among blacks. This cultural umbrella served to checkmate the destructive tendencies inherent in sub-Saharan African culture.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 04:44 (thirteen years ago) link

what a bunch of fucking assholes

Clay, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link

lmao @ Isn't it amazing how liberals have to turn everything into a discussion about race. That and there unshakeable conviction that people who disagree with them are evil.

bnw, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 04:55 (thirteen years ago) link

guess what else people want to know about "miley cyrus naked" About 1,400,000 results (0.07 seconds)

bnw, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 04:57 (thirteen years ago) link

it is kind of comforting to know that the right is still scared of the hippity hop music with the blank blank chains and the tires that bounce too much

HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 05:01 (thirteen years ago) link

for some reason the thing that bugs me the most is how all these people use this I Am A Thoughtful Scholar language ("proceed from the assumption", "pivots upon", "normative", "hence") while haphazardly comparing huge complex systems with no actual data and no attention at all to any factors whatsoever except THEY'VE GOT SQUINTY EYES THERE AND BIG LIPS HERE, HENCE THE NORMATIVE PIVOT PROCEEDS FROM THE ASSUMPTION. like there's youtube commenters who just yell good ol racist slurs and then there's NRO commenters who think that they're sophisticated analysts.

(but then i guess that's been how it works ever since william f buckley dutifully wrote down three or four aquinas quotes to insert here and there in between stupid ideas)

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Judeo-Christian/Greco-Roman/Anglo-Germanic

take that, frogs

j., Tuesday, 15 March 2011 05:24 (thirteen years ago) link

being a hopeless masochist I actually trawled through the results for the broadest possible interpretation of Derbyshire's search term and the entries related to his stupid non-point disappeared by page 30 or so

"Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 05:54 (thirteen years ago) link

some commenters on NRO do good work

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Searching the distinct query (with quotes!) "Why is there no looting in Japan?" returns a paltry 1,540 results.

One of the top 10 is from the Free Republic, and the other is from St@rmfr#nt. Derb, you're not in very good company at the minute...

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 06:53 (thirteen years ago) link

(googleproofing added)

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 06:54 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah im still horrified by that greenblatt article - when did using the n-word to refer to members of NWA become in any way ok? And what the fuck is calling ice cube a grumpier stepin fetchit supposed to mean?

hipster bluppies (symsymsym), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 10:38 (thirteen years ago) link

for some reason the thing that bugs me the most is how all these people use this I Am A Thoughtful Scholar language ("proceed from the assumption", "pivots upon", "normative", "hence") while haphazardly comparing huge complex systems with no actual data and no attention at all to any factors whatsoever except THEY'VE GOT SQUINTY EYES THERE AND BIG LIPS HERE, HENCE THE NORMATIVE PIVOT PROCEEDS FROM THE ASSUMPTION. like there's youtube commenters who just yell good ol racist slurs and then there's NRO commenters who think that they're sophisticated analysts.

so otm i want to cry

the Hogg who would be Boss (will), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 11:56 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/262162/people-want-know-contd-john-derbyshire

complete with a Richard Lynn citation about "national IQ"

"Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link

In what way am I a Bad Person? I work hard, pay my taxes, and observe the speed limits. I am loyal to my friends and faithful to my wife. I nurture my children and try to guide them to good citizenship. I strive to practice good manners and consideration when dealing with strangers. I do not covet my neighbor’s ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is my neighbor’s. In what respect am I a Bad Person? This is not a rhetorical question.

Thus does science prove that John Derbyshire is a Good Person.

I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

repressed ass coveter

your LiveJournal experience (schlump), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

oh my god derbyshire is so dumb

max, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link

My favorite commenter in the Derbyshire post:

03/15/11 11:51

Let's give some credit to General MacArthur's reorganization of Japan and its psyche.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

i wouldn't say that Derbyshire is dumb so much as he is Colonel Blimp given human form

"Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

chrisrock.gif SCUSE ME DUMBSHIT, YOU DON'T GET A VICTORY LAP FOR DOING WHAT YOU'RE 'SUPPOSED TO'. /unlock caps

anna sui generis (suzy), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link


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