Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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some kind of web 3 Mile Island presumably?

Neil S, Monday, 14 March 2011 11:55 (fifteen years ago)

"Unable to cope with the flood of requests, its server literally died"

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 March 2011 12:01 (fifteen years ago)

when I worked for MLB we were expressly forbidden from using any violent metaphor to describe the action of a game, i.e. "Blue Jays erupt in fifth inning" or "Royals explode for sixteen in Tampa" or "Bucs whip Bosox". It may have been a post-Sep 11 thing or it may have been to avoid unintended juxtapositions like the above. In retrospect I think it's just good practice.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 March 2011 12:04 (fifteen years ago)

Constantly describing people, sports teams, organisations etc. as "stunned" also falls into that category.

Neil S, Monday, 14 March 2011 13:01 (fifteen years ago)

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/3/11/1299865906886/Steve-Bells-If-.-.-.-008.jpg

Really classy stuff here.

Matt DC, Monday, 14 March 2011 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

I get it, he misheard Cameron when Cameron said "go home!" Ha! Ahaha! Hahahaha! Hahahahahahahahahaha!

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 March 2011 13:19 (fifteen years ago)

why is cameron's head a condom?

Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Monday, 14 March 2011 13:41 (fifteen years ago)

Steve Bell needs a lie down :(

blvd money (sic), Monday, 14 March 2011 13:43 (fifteen years ago)

Judging by many recent headlines I've noticed, perhaps this thread should be called "Are the Guardian worse than they used to be?"

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 March 2011 13:54 (fifteen years ago)

can't stand steve bell...that cartoon is a new low though.

Ask Nult What Your Country Can Do For You (Local Garda), Monday, 14 March 2011 17:20 (fifteen years ago)

would anyone pay to read the guardian if they decided to drop a paywall?

I'm not sure I wouldn't actually. would the guardian ever do it tho?

cozen, Friday, 18 March 2011 08:26 (fifteen years ago)

I probably would pay. The website loses a huge amount of money at the moment, as far as i am aware, but i'm not sure whether a paywall would generate any more than advertising revenue does.

Ha ha ha ha. Jack my swag. (ShariVari), Friday, 18 March 2011 08:44 (fifteen years ago)

maybe the website would lose less money if say, they sack all the shit writers from it?

Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Friday, 18 March 2011 11:43 (fifteen years ago)

I paid for the app without even thinking about it.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 March 2011 11:49 (fifteen years ago)

to read articles that were written in a similar way

Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Friday, 18 March 2011 12:04 (fifteen years ago)

glad the hackney tourist board is so keen to pony up but i'm not, seem to remember some smug article abt how paywalls are bad

Romford Spring (DG), Friday, 18 March 2011 13:05 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.iwradio.co.uk/newscentre/national-news/wootton-bassett-cartoon-sparks-outrage-15954542

Ward Fowler, Friday, 18 March 2011 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2011/3/16/1300318427436/Steve-Bell-17.03.11-001.jpg

Romford Spring (DG), Friday, 18 March 2011 14:22 (fifteen years ago)

I think I get it now.. is cameron's head a condom because he's a dickhead??

Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Friday, 18 March 2011 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

Or because Bell can't draw him?

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 18 March 2011 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

are his eyes not in the condom?

suggest and ban is my favourite combination (history mayne), Friday, 18 March 2011 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

Bell explained it as stemming from Cameron being presented as a 'Safe' Tory.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 18 March 2011 14:27 (fifteen years ago)

dreadful

Romford Spring (DG), Friday, 18 March 2011 14:38 (fifteen years ago)

it's because he wants to keep out the jonny foreigners

Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Friday, 18 March 2011 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

Not even Bell would use that joke

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 18 March 2011 14:39 (fifteen years ago)

that's where bell ends and where i begin

Jlloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken (ken c), Friday, 18 March 2011 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

Is that a bellend reference?

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 18 March 2011 14:47 (fifteen years ago)

I think I saw something about it evolving from Bell noticing his curious shiny smoothness when he met him.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 18 March 2011 16:06 (fifteen years ago)

Defence Secretary Liam Fox told the Sun: "It's tasteless and offensive. It shows a total lack of respect for our fallen.

"It's cowardly and bad taste which stands in stark contrast to the pride of the people of Royal Wootton Bassett."

kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 March 2011 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

i actually agree it's offensive. it also isn't even that cutting, it's a fairly confused message.

Ask Nult What Your Country Can Do For You (Local Garda), Friday, 18 March 2011 16:11 (fifteen years ago)

the subject is fair

cartoon is typically shit

kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 March 2011 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

i don't get it tbh

suggest and ban is my favourite combination (history mayne), Friday, 18 March 2011 16:13 (fifteen years ago)

i think it's potentially fair except the lack of a clear punchline or meaning just makes it seem gratuitous. plus you know, d-cam didn't start that war, much and all as i think he's a total cunt.

x-post otm...can anyone explain directly what it means?

Ask Nult What Your Country Can Do For You (Local Garda), Friday, 18 March 2011 16:14 (fifteen years ago)

the 'war on language' bit applies to the nhs poster, sort of, but... not the other thing. does it?

suggest and ban is my favourite combination (history mayne), Friday, 18 March 2011 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

Cameron has a condom on his head cos he is head of the condems geddit?

ka£ka (NickB), Friday, 18 March 2011 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

Cameron has a condom on his head cos he is pretending to be one of our mates geddit?

ka£ka (NickB), Friday, 18 March 2011 16:18 (fifteen years ago)

it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Ask Nult What Your Country Can Do For You (Local Garda), Friday, 18 March 2011 16:19 (fifteen years ago)

it's a ruddy disgrace!

Ask Nult What Your Country Can Do For You (Local Garda), Friday, 18 March 2011 16:22 (fifteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/eL3bY.jpg

kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 March 2011 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

hahahaha he looks like a chimp! lol! steve bell for prime minister! charlie brooker as chancellor!!!

Ask Nult What Your Country Can Do For You (Local Garda), Friday, 18 March 2011 16:30 (fifteen years ago)

http://img863.imageshack.us/img863/5316/ffsp.png

HURRRRRR

yeah im not going to click that

BIG GERTRUDE aka the steindriver (history mayne), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 10:01 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.annastoydepot.com/images/martianpopping.jpg

Steve Bell is missing a trick here, I think.

anna sui generis (suzy), Wednesday, 23 March 2011 10:07 (fifteen years ago)

The Hadley Freeman article is worse than it sounds.

the pinefox, Thursday, 24 March 2011 00:43 (fifteen years ago)

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Pass notes No 2,948: Bunga bunga

Silvio Berlusconi is alleged to be keen on this particular kind of party

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* guardian.co.uk, Sunday 27 March 2011 20.00 BST
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Karima el-Mahroug Karima 'Ruby' el-Mahroug claims Berlusconi heard about bunga bunga parties from Gaddafi. Photograph: Kerstin Joensson/AP

Appearance: Sweaty.

Age: 17 to 80. Preferably 17.

Sorry, what are we talking about here? Bunga bunga.

Oh. They drink it on the Humber, I suppose? That's Um Bongo.

I thought they drank that in the Congo. They did, apocryphally. But look, bunga bunga is something different.

How so? Um Bongo is a memorably advertised fruit juice drink. Bunga bunga is a type of orgy where many naked teenage girls cavort for the pleasure of a few old men.

Yes, that is different. Yes, it is.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/27/pass-notes-bunga-bunga-berlusconi

kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Monday, 28 March 2011 01:03 (fifteen years ago)

Thinking the Impossible: French Philosophy Since 1960 by Gary Gutting – review

The theories of Derrida and Foucault are revisited in this fair-minded history of French deconstructionism, and guess what? It wasn't all bunkum…

The Geirogeirgegege (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

sometimes i hate british people

Packie Bonner (Local Garda), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

Cockroach News of Cockroach England

The Geirogeirgegege (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

Are the theory wars over? Twenty-five years ago you couldn't cocoa your cappuccino without someone accusing you of floating a signifier, much less close down the, ahem, discourse with a simple "I prefer my coffee that way"

The Geirogeirgegege (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 17:34 (fifteen years ago)

Rebarbatively obscurantist the post-structuralists may be, but anyone who has read Gary Gutting's fine introduction to their thought will be a little less quick to convict them of charlatanry.

The Geirogeirgegege (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 17:35 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/mar/20/thinking-impossible-philosopy-gary-gutting

The Geirogeirgegege (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 17:35 (fifteen years ago)


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