tamtam: i never really knew you well enough in your former guise to have an opinion on you one way or the other, but i think you are an a+ poster no homo.
― jaymc, Thursday, 10 March 2011 05:56 (thirteen years ago) link
it's not really a lack of realism! it's what realist fiction is made of! like have you ever read a dickens death scene? i always end up sounding like that awful baltimore sun editor from season 5 on wire threads.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, March 9, 2011 5:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
this is very otm to me - it seems hyper-literal and a little lunkheaded to complain about this stuff imo.
― ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 10 March 2011 05:57 (thirteen years ago) link
jaymc-chan....
tv show is not 100% reflective of reality, oh my god
― Slow lorax loves getting tickled (dayo), Thursday, 10 March 2011 05:58 (thirteen years ago) link
that said, I had a similar reaction as js my first time through, this tv series was lauded for being 'realistic' and I took 'realistic' to mean 'verisimilar' but actually it just means 'realistic' and then I was like okay, I can get down with that...until season 5
― Slow lorax loves getting tickled (dayo), Thursday, 10 March 2011 05:59 (thirteen years ago) link
not sure why you would expect a scripted dramatic tv serial to be "verisimilar"
― sarahel, Thursday, 10 March 2011 06:55 (thirteen years ago) link
well yeah it would be badass if prodigy rapped about killing his enemies with a flamethrower while perched in the middle of queens on top of a purple elephant but i'm not sure if i would call it "working within the parameters of 'reality'"
― little humma boy (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, March 9, 2011 11:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
is this something that omar does in the show cuz i missed that
― deej, Thursday, 10 March 2011 07:49 (thirteen years ago) link
horseshoe, difficult listening hour otm
― ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, March 9, 2011 11:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
u think im offtm or are u just making sure i know u still dont like me
― deej, Thursday, 10 March 2011 07:50 (thirteen years ago) link
are you starting beefs, just to start them?
― sarahel, Thursday, 10 March 2011 07:51 (thirteen years ago) link
like Marlo putting people in those boarded up houses not cause he has to, but because he can?
― sarahel, Thursday, 10 March 2011 07:52 (thirteen years ago) link
im not 'starting' anything thnx for your input
― deej, Thursday, 10 March 2011 07:53 (thirteen years ago) link
because tamtam didn't include you in his otm litany? like, while you were banned, did you think about how 51 people came to press that button?
― sarahel, Thursday, 10 March 2011 07:55 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, clearly the thing to do would have been to post, "you did not otm me? surely some mistake!"
― sarahel, Thursday, 10 March 2011 07:58 (thirteen years ago) link
oh my godddddddddddd
― max, Thursday, 10 March 2011 07:59 (thirteen years ago) link
max otmdeej otmeveryone otm
except for jordan and whiney
― sarahel, Thursday, 10 March 2011 08:00 (thirteen years ago) link
― max, Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:59 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark
― ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Thursday, 10 March 2011 08:09 (thirteen years ago) link
― sarahel, 2011年03月10日 星期四 下午2:55 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yah but people always cite the 'realism' of the wire as being one of its strongest points, its just interesting that 'realism' covers such a broad category of factors, but when people foreground it like that in the conversation I expected idk something closer to the verisimilar side of the spectrum, instead like you said it's just a scripted tv serial
― Slow lorax loves getting tickled (dayo), Thursday, 10 March 2011 08:26 (thirteen years ago) link
btw deej otm.... SIKE
― Slow lorax loves getting tickled (dayo), Thursday, 10 March 2011 08:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Ah, good old Local Garda, being clueless and British again.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 10 March 2011 09:18 (thirteen years ago) link
anyway the "fuck" scene is awesome, omar is awesome, & local garda is british. keep that in mind― kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:40 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
― kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:40 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
id thought he was irish for the years i've posted here. huh.
― history mayne, Thursday, 10 March 2011 09:31 (thirteen years ago) link
who is sarahel
― deej, Thursday, 10 March 2011 13:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Snoop arrested in drug raid
― A Very Small Bag of Phrases (Eazy), Thursday, 10 March 2011 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link
:(
― Slow lorax loves getting tickled (dayo), Thursday, 10 March 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link
the Snoop buying the Hilti gun opening sequence (sea 4 ep 1) is easily my favorite Wire scene
― BLOOMPS 2012 (rip van wanko), Thursday, 10 March 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Simon's cynicism was so noxious by the last couple of episodes that I'm surprised he didn't end the scene in which the new Judge Pearlman crisply informs Daniels that he can't prosecute his case because of a conflict of interest *CLOSE-UP of Pearlman slyly winking at Daniels*.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 March 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link
xp dayo - i don't recall people telling me I "had to see it" because it was "so real" - just that it was "so good" - so I didn't come at it with those expectations.
― sarahel, Thursday, 10 March 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link
if you guys want to see what the wire would be like if it were more realistic you should watch the corner cause thats some real ass dire shit
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah:
The ‘Lowest Form of Humor’? (No Way)
March 10, 2011 11:34 A.M.By Jay Nordlinger Okay, I gotta work, but I have to do one more Corner post — can’t resist. In today’s Impromptus, I revisit — prompted by a reader — the pronunciation of forte: which is “fort.” That’s if you mean forte as in expertise, strong suit. Forte as in loud is “for-tay.” (I could explain the roots of these things, but I have done so a hundred times, and must have bored people to tears by now.)
A reader writes, “The strong half of a fencing blade is also a forte, pronounced ‘fort,’ and is used for parries.” Great. Glad to know. But then our reader continues, “The strong parry, like unto a brick wall, is the parry Mason. The easy and apparently casual but effective parry is the parry Como. The Canadian water parry is the parry, eh?”
Don’t shoot the messenger! I mean, the printer of the letter! Shoot, instead, that punning genius from Astoria, Ore.
Thanks, and see you.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i think maybe when people talk abt the wire being real they mean more subtle and caring abt how the world works from certain societal perspectives more than tv shows generally do rather than resembling real life in every conceivable way
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link
surprise surprise the things i like the most about the wire are when it gets kind of deadwood-y: using the structures of different parts of the drug economy to try to dramatize how things in the "real" economy and "real" politics work
― goole, Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link
goole - me too!
― sarahel, Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link
claims to realism always make me suspicious because a) there's usually an underlying aesthetic presumption that realism is somehow the most admirable of artistic virtues (which I don't agree with) and b) the term means radically different things to different people, so it's a fairly vague signifier. These two things in combination I find particularly annoying
― You hurt me deeply. You hurt me deeply in my heart. (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
the exposed mundanity at the heart of the drug drama is a beautiful lol xp
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link
― sarahel, Friday, March 11, 2011 12:25 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark
looks like we heard different things from different people, no wai!!
― Slow lorax loves getting tickled (dayo), Thursday, 10 March 2011 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link
David Simon responds to Snoop's arrest
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 March 2011 01:54 (thirteen years ago) link
kind of symptomatic of Simon's incurable logorrhea that he felt the need to write a fucking essay about this and tie it into the show's thesis
― some dude, Friday, 11 March 2011 01:59 (thirteen years ago) link
kinda feel bad for snoop
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 March 2011 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link
or demonstrative in his passionate belief in the subjects of his concern (xpost)
― blvd money (sic), Friday, 11 March 2011 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link
it must be weird like being a huge breakout fan favorite star of a show out of nowhere & feeling like maybe your life has turned around in a way that you'd never foresee & then slowly realizing that there's nowhere to really go from there
― J0rdan S., Friday, 11 March 2011 02:07 (thirteen years ago) link
that too, but i dunno -- i appreciate that he ends it with "I am therefore ill-equipped to be her judge in this matter" but he just climbs on the soapbox in the local media so often at any opportunity that turning a friend/co-worker's misfortune into a rant like this is just a little ugh to me (xpost)
― some dude, Friday, 11 March 2011 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link
― deej, Thursday, March 10, 2011 7:53 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark
this is kind of amazing its like watching u spin around and around pointing your gun at anyone approaching
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 11 March 2011 03:34 (thirteen years ago) link
his name is his name, yo
― sarahel, Friday, 11 March 2011 03:36 (thirteen years ago) link
kinda like when bodie gets offed
― Slow lorax loves getting tickled (dayo), Friday, 11 March 2011 03:39 (thirteen years ago) link
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Friday, 11 March 2011 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link
just like plenty of scenes involving omar go past what i can tolerate in terms of the violation of the parameters of reality
You know, if you wanted Omar to hew more to the life of his real-world counterpart, he would've lived and hooked up with Khandi Alexander.
― stronglo recommendington (Leee), Friday, 11 March 2011 04:52 (thirteen years ago) link
http://hoodedutilitarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/wirepage136.jpg
This is pretty good: http://hoodedutilitarian.com/2011/03/when-its-not-your-turn-the-quintessentially-victorian-vision-of-ogdens-the-wire/
― Stevie T, Thursday, 24 March 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Herc is now following me on Twitter.
― Magnum PI and Fashion-Forward Dudes (Eazy), Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Link doesn't work for me, Stevie, looks good. (and pertinently amusing given my blethering last week about Victorian realism/workplaces/The Wire).
― I lolled at the Great Saucepan (GamalielRatsey), Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link
I wouldn't worry about it Eazy. They only had one good codebreaker, skinny white dude called Prezlewski or something -- he quit the force after shooting another cop lol. I hear he's teaching at Tilghman Middle!! That'll go well.
― eurohouse autozone tune (rip van wanko), Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I think they had a surge in visitors and must have bandwidth issues. Here's the googlecached version of the article:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:OknQr5ux00gJ:hoodedutilitarian.com/2011/03/when-its-not-your-turn-the-quintessentially-victorian-vision-of-ogdens-the-wire/+hooded+utilitarian+wire+victorian+novel&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.google.co.uk
― Stevie T, Thursday, 24 March 2011 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link