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i think this episode really got brilliant when johnson showed up.

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

Mike's 2nd paragraph could be spoken by Morrissey!

Perhaps he is right about what I meant. But also, the very fact that everyone on this thread likes the programme so much might also suggest that it is trendy. I don't mean that everyone on the thread is trendy, at least not as an insult.

I think it is something about the tone - so perhaps 'rudeness' in some sense, or more than one - 'nastiness' or 'brutality' among them - is indeed relevant.

It feels also like a programme keen to be up to the minute somehow, or to express or represent a contemporary attitude or life.

― the bellefox, Monday, 28 November 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

i'm not sure if that's a bad thing.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

Le quote (pinefox sai): "I think it is something about the tone - so perhaps 'rudeness' in some sense, or more than one - 'nastiness' or 'brutality' among them - is indeed relevant."

But but but... if you summed this show up as 'rude', 'brutal' and 'nasty', you'd be way off course. Whilst I can't find anything specifically nice about it / the characters, there's something there that's warm and engaging. Perhaps you mean that the rude-brutal-nastiness is a contemporary veneer over a warm-heart-of-British-comedy core? Or have I misunderstood (it happen)?

― Zora (Zora), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

No, I don't see or feel any warm core, just a chill and sometimes witty wind.

― the bellefox, Monday, 28 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

this hasnt been as funny as i thought it would be after episode 2, its seeming a bit more sinister and just plain cruel, esp in regard to jez. when johnson turned up last week though, that really was genius.

― okok, Monday, 28 November 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

I've only been and off viewer of Peep Show since it started, but the two or three appearances of Johnson I've seen have all been hilarious. He's a great character.

Warm core. Hmm... no I think I see one either. I suppose, one could say that at its heart lies a kind of commiseration of self-loathing squalid souls. But that would be stretching the point a bit.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

I saw this by accident a year ago and never thought it would turn up again -- too loose-limbed and fast and personal and funny to ever end up as a regular series, but here we are. I like it. I think it's "trendy" insofar as it's using a lot of the same tricks as "Curb Your Enthusiasm," which was, or felt like, a very new kind of show. Main one being, when a main character has a decision to make, he or she will always make the worst one he or she is capable of at the time.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

I have heard the name of that programme, but never seen it.

Is it on, in Britain?

N. is probably right, in his last paragraph.

― the bellefox, Monday, 28 November 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

friday nights, pinefox, channel 4, 10pm; repeated on E4 at midnight on the following monday (ie tonight!).

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

What or who is it about?

― the bellefox, Monday, 28 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Two loser flatmates and their largely inconsequential (but fucked up, in a peculiarly pathetic way) escapades. When on form it really is as great as everyone here is saying.

― Cracks (Crackity), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

He's asking about Curb Your Enthusiasm. It's about Larry David, the co-creator of Seinfeld, living his life in LA. He plays himself. He's neurotic and lost and grouchy.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

i think Curb' is pretty funny, I watched it only recently for the first time and I lol'd quite a lot. and Alba, ah ha that would explain the Seinfeld gags that I found peculiar

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

One formal diff between the two shows is that I doubt much, if any, of PS is improvised (CYE is famous for only the situation being agreed on in advance, rather than the words) which I think gives it a sharper performative bite. Both shows have a knack of thrusting enormous stakes onto their characters from out of nowhere.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

Oh, sorry. (xxpost)

― Cracks (Crackity), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

Crikey, everyone here seemed to really like the last episode, which I thought was really pretty feeble (the only bit I laughed out loud at was Mark's "Not in my name" speech). Too much of Jeremy in this episode. Superhans is always amusing. I like how Big Suze really is Big... but then I just like Big Suze full stop.

― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

i didn't enjoy last week's half as much as the one the week before.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

big suze is lovely

― okoko, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

finally saw ep3 last night, and i'm in two minds about it. i loved jez's whole "look at me, talking to a builder!" schtick, and the word "Jeremism" made me cackle, but I thought the scatological ending was dull and lazy, and the drug stuff was awful.

still, "when was the last time sophie sent *you* a template? FUCKFACE!" = teh genius.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

what happened to mark's girlfriend? and the crazy woman? and the deed to the pub? does this show just start over from scratch each time?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

mark's girlfriend sophie is in brighton on business.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

bristol, but yeah.

and presumably the mad girl's still in hospital? and the pub's still hers since she handed over the deeds while clearly deranged?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

brighton/bristol, same shit

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

more to the point, what's happened to Jez's American wife?

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

and presumably the mad girl's still in hospital? and the pub's still hers since she handed over the deeds while clearly deranged?

Yes, it's disappointing they didn't refer back to that. I want to see Jeremy and Superhans running the pub.

Also, what are the odds that Sophie has been seeing Jeff again? I have a sneaking suspicion that she went back to him when she thought Mark was sleeping around, hence the slightly guilty behaviour(and Jeff's comments) later on. This is all pure speculation, of course.

― Philip Alderman (Phil A), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

sophie's not in bristol at all. she's on an island with polar bears and mysterious hatches and oh wait.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

Blimey, I just saw gez and mark on des and mel! MAINSTREAM!

― JimD (JimD), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

and the consensus on tonight's episode?

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

I liked it a lot. But then I always like it a lot.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

I loved it.

But I wish jel hadn't pointed out jez and mark's teeth problems, as I'm really noticing it a lot myself now.

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)

The second half veered towards gervais-like comedy of embarrassment territory. But it was still funny enough for that to be ok.

I quite fancy big suze too.

― JimD (JimD), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

Yes - for a moment there I thought I was going to be in the ridiculous position of being jealous of Mark's sex life....

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

"Salad and a Hawksmoor church." Awesome.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 4 December 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

big suze is fucking hot.

― cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 4 December 2005 02:29 (twenty years ago)

she's a daftee though!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 04:30 (twenty years ago)

this show is so depressing.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 4 December 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)

bad too.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 4 December 2005 08:24 (twenty years ago)

no, it's good.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 5 December 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

both were in the weekend papers doing different things (one doing the guardian magazine survey, another re-visiting cambridge for the travel section).

anybody ever heard the radio 4 show that goes out under their real names? there's talk of it transfering to bbc2.

http://www.thestage.co.uk/news/newsstory.php/10594/that-mitchell-and-webb-look-tunes-into

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 5 December 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)

They were on the Mel and Des programme and said that they're doing a TV sketch show.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 5 December 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

this was a less quotable ep, more conventional sitcom than usual. but it was still fucking skill.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 5 December 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

Fantastic again. And to think I thought it'd jumped the shark 2 episodes ago.

― Cracks (Crackity), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)

"I'm coming back for you... and your cock"

Slightly disappointed with this episode too, tho better than the last one. Horribly, it appears Big Suze still fancies Jez.

― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 10:11 (twenty years ago)

"Promise me you won't try to sleep with her"
"OK - I'll try not to sleep with her"

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

I've lost all sympathy for either of the characters in this series, which takes a lot away from it for me unfortunately.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

I have too much sympathy for Mark, which also takes something away.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

Jeremy has become much less sympathetic.

― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

funny at times but not enough to make it worth watching

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

how do you know?

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 11:18 (twenty years ago)

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