The Michael Mann poll

I could see someone (not me) make the argument that Scott's films are more entertaining. Mann can be kind of dull at times. Still, anyone who could make a movie as bad as Domino clearly can't be too great.

I love Heat if only for how awesome the guns sound during the bank robbery. Dude can film a pretty meaty and satisfying gun fight.

he is an asshole driver

"it seems really weird Alex in SF doesn't like this guy"

I'm actually overstating my dislike for him on this thread. He's done plenty I liked. He just tends to inspire the kind of acting that bugs the shit out of me.

And by plenty I liked I mean the Insider, the parts of Heat that don't suck, Crime Story, the parts of Manhunter that don't suck and actually that's probably it.

Just started Crime Story. Hopefully there aren't any further scenes where Farina has to cry.

Scene from L.A. Takedown that became, almost word for word, the Pacino/DeNiro diner scene in Heat:

Trailer for fake movie, starring Benecio del Toro, that Mann made for Mercedes in 2002:

did anyone ever see his tv show with tom sizemore? LAPD robbery homicde or something? i caught a couple episodes i thought it was pretty dope

i'm trying to power through all the mann films but i'm stuck on "the insider" and it's 2.5 hr run time since school picked back up but

i was lukewarm on "collateral" until the scene in the DA's office. hon one of the most amazing looking scenes i've ever seen? everything pitch black except the city lights reflecting off the glass. and really the whole last 25 or 30 mins or so were incredible. train scene as well.

i LOVED "ali" tbqh. like, i'll acknowledge that it was *rolling my damn eyes* oscar baity, but god damn did mann shooting boxing give me a robust erection. i loved the way he used the music too, and i thought will smith was great & rightly funny at times. def the 'warmest' mann movie i've ever seen in terms of aesthetics. blues & daylight instead of blues & nighttime i guess.

did anyone ever see his tv show with tom sizemore? LAPD robbery homicde or something? i caught a couple episodes i thought it was pretty dope

― beyonc'e (max), Sunday, December 7, 2008 11:35 PM (9 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

robbery homicide division iirc. never been able to find this on torrent :(

the insider was a serious letdown. hard for a movie to be an anticlimax from the credits all the way through, but it managed somehow. the scene with pacino on a BEACH shouting down the PHONE may have merit if viewed as self parody from all involved, but other than that it's just a fat russell crowe.

The Insider's his best movie despite Mann's ceding the movie to Pacino in the last third.

no

it's miami vice fuiud

or heat or public enemies or manhunter fuiud

I can shout like Al Pacino if need be.

heat is on tv atm

insider rules. his best.

heat is on tv atm

I think Heat on TV about 100 hours a week lately.

A Hollywood guy I know told me how Heat, after being lukewarm at the box office, is a favorite of all the studio guys in their 20s/30s who saw it in their formative years. I was asking him why it was on TV all the time and Blue Thunder never is.

5 votes for manhunter fuckin seriously guys

0 votes for Thief is worse.

manhunter is clearly a TRANSCENDENT FUCKING AWESOME MOVIE THE BEST ONE HE EVER MADE then the insider then miamivice heat and collateral - and obvs miami vice the tv show shouldve be included here cause want to talk abt some art work lets talk abt that

theif is cool but its somewhat formative mann trying to mix gritty realistic 70s vibe w/sweet high tension michael mann shit - the scene w/jim belushi lookin over the billboard ready to snipe is super bomb tho

u should make a movie called stanhunter

the scene w/jim belushi lookin over the billboard ready to snipe is super bomb tho

For pure Chicago location thrills, there's that early scene with sunrise on the lakefront, and then at the end he blows up the Green Mill. Rock.

Also, Jimmy Caan.

manhunter sucks guys. red dragon is much better! rattner! rattner! rattner!

*fake challops*

He just tends to inspire the kind of acting that bugs the shit out of me.

axtually i kinda agree, but i'm not sure how to put into words.

an example i mean, not the fact that i kinda agree

Ali was just a disaster. Smith had no fucking idea who his character was and just settled for a bizarrely muted impression, and the narrative was painfully boring.

All Mann's other films are must see though.

Heat would easily be his best movie, and perhaps one of the greatest films ever, if it weren't for the awful Pacino performance. But when his character isn't on screen, the movie is fantastic. Strangely enough, Pacino was actually good in The Insider.

The opening sure works, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STDo6Z5YJa4

i think being a true stann means looking past his depiction of ali as a person and just marveling at how the movie looks - anyway i think it's obv that he thought that getting into who ali really was would distract from he really wanted the film to be - now obv i totally understand how that can turn people off but i really loved it

damn

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poll

lol mario van peebles as malcolm x - not sure if thats more or less absurd than smith as ali - btw my dad has a treasured pic of himself w/cassius clay in that v gym while he was training for the liston fight

xp to ali open youtube

i dont remember what i voted for but i hope it was mohicans cuz that shit owwwwns

william peterson is worst dude btw

u suck

watch manhunter and to live and die in l.a. back to back and tell me he isnt the most unlikeable creepy manchild to ever... exist

it works more in to live and die in l.a. because he's supposed to be a total creep.

the characters in both movies are supposed to be totally unlikeable!!!

also how can u hate a guy who starred in 2 of the best noir movies of the 80s AND the greatest american procedural of the 2000s

i know i know, i'm just saying he is unpleasant to watch! even if that is the point

i have never watched csi tbqh

mannhunter=best

marg helgenberger ftw

csi is great

he's not meant to be unlikeable in manhunter! he's just supposed to have.. defects. i love him in that film. LOVE him. tell me he's not brilliant in that scene in the supermarket. sensitive too!

in terms of cop show aesthetics csi is to the 00s what miami vice was to the 80s... otherwise the shows arent really at all the same

double tam making want to revist all the mann movies - havent seen mohicans or insider in so long - nice to see you can sb ppl for shit they sd in 2007 tho

generally agree w/ the poll results but i havent seen ali

i appreciate william petersen a lot more now than i did then... he's amazing in to live and die in LA... i think what creeped me out were the scenes where he was supposed to be like, sexy... he was all rubbing his torso and shit... kinda weird

def need to revisit the insider