A new 30 Rock thread because I can't find the old one

I had to keep asking myself whether or not it was Sarah Silverman as well

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what the hell is wrong w/ you ppl

why do all chicks look the same to u

yeah, how you could you mistake a chick in a wig & speaking in a fake voice as someone else

she looks kinda like ss

rollin my dam eyez

sarah silverman does the same voice, looks nothing like her though.

you are all retards

all of you

laughed when Kenneth started singing "slave of jesus, hear my tale"

I dunno the whole denoument with the crazy ex-husband just seemed like a joke from a lesser show.

OTM. Dud episode imo.

at first that plotline seemed ridiculous and pathetic but it's somehow managed to make more sense since

one thing about this last episode is that for issues that seem really important to tina fey (women's roles in media, feminism, etc) the show seemed really unclear about its position. obv it's still a sitcom and i didn't expect some kind of polemic but i feel like it would've been handled more insightfully in earlier seasons. was tina fey wrong to convince abbey not to act that way bc abbey had a legitimate excuse? why couldn't she hide out from her boyfriend without having a totally demeaning persona? why did they even hire her too? if her previous persona was totally hidden away, why would tina fey bring her in to make the show more women-friendly? did she just have no idea what kind of act she did? the whole thing was just totally incoherent.

I thought one of the jokes is how incoherent post-feminism is.

That particular joke is a little nihilistic if you're not offering an alternative imho

People seem to be forgetting that the Jack storyline was the best (only really good?) part of this episode.

also is there an alternative/solution to the post-feminist problem? don't read up on this stuff anymore but before Sex and the City completely flamed out with the films it was still something of a conundrum back then.

I think you guys are burying the lede, which is that Lutz got laid.

^^^^^^^^^^

...by sarah silverman!

Lutz/Kimmel

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i didn't think it was Silverman but all this JEEZ ARE YOU BLIND stuff is a little over the top

I didn't think it was Silverman either but clearly she and Olivia Munn (and Jenny McCarthy?) were among the inspirations for that character.

i thought silverman + abbey looked the same throughout the episode. esp when she was dressed like a baby and talking exactly like Silverman

so what is the real chick's ACTUAL name

I thought it was Jennifer Love Hewitt.

haha I came real close to saying "omg is it JLH" when she first appeared but 12 seconds in I could see it wasn't. on first quick glance tho...

didn't really like this ep except for the girl owning jack

never liked sarah silverman and she was p bad in this

lol

i thought it was jennifer love hewitt and sarah silverman even tho im aware those are separate people

fusion, man

thought the lack of clarity was kind of the point--these are difficult issues! im not sure 30-minute sitcoms are the best place to be looking for alternatives to the post-feminist dilemma anyway. also maybe unrelated btu sometimes i think the point/role of comedy is to complicate things

for the record i think i was the first person to mention silverman and i wasn't saying i thought it was silverman, i was saying that the character seemed inspired by silverman

It didn't seem to complicate things to me. It just seemed kind of empty and pointless. Maybe I wouldn't have minded as much if I'd found Abbey's character to be either funny or likeable/endearing

was tina fey wrong to convince abbey not to act that way bc abbey had a legitimate excuse? why couldn't she hide out from her boyfriend without having a totally demeaning persona? why did they even hire her too? if her previous persona was totally hidden away, why would tina fey bring her in to make the show more women-friendly? did she just have no idea what kind of act she did? the whole thing was just totally incoherent.

I was wondering these things while watching too. Why would Abbey Flynn have even been celebrated by joanofsnark in the first place?

Enjoyed Jack's storyline though.

thought the lack of clarity was kind of the point--these are difficult issues! im not sure 30-minute sitcoms are the best place to be looking for alternatives to the post-feminist dilemma anyway.

― max, Sunday, February 27, 2011 6:09 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i basically agree w/this but felt like they couldve gotten in a couple more direct hits, been more cutting, deeply zingy or something

ILX has gotten turgidly stupid.

felt like a dig at silverman for sure. thought the end with the homicidal husband was more a way to screw liz lemon over for laughs as usual than complicating the issue

interesting that this ep was written by one man

TV episodes tend to have one writer credit for whoever came up w/ the basic plot but on a show like 30 Rock most of the jokes/dialogue come from who knows how many staff writers

also, steve carrell 'owns' 'that's what she said'?

exqueeze me? baking powder?

I would have dug the "feminism is complicated" message if I thought they'd arrived at it honestly, but they had a feminist blog praising an Olivia Munn type (one reason I don't feel like giving them points for zeitgeist-catching) who apparently pretended to be a sex-crazed male-approval seeking baby doll in the comedy world because her psycho husband would recognize her if not for the wig/personality change. It was B- feminist comedy in an regularly A- show, and a bad flashback to when every episode was about how Liz should abandon idealism and accept mediocrity. Though I know a lot of people who are happy they did feminist comedy period.

i've never really watched the us office so it kind of blew my mind not long ago to learn people associate "that's what she said" primarily with that show now

i'm still a little skeptical about the whole episode being equated with Olivia Munn -- obviously there was some degree of inspiration/commentary, but iirc the "the Daily Show has a woman problem" furor started up AFTER she was hired, and as an onscreen 'reporter,' not a writer, so it's kind of a shaky parallel? episode felt more like a composite of a lot of different issues and examples that have been in the air the last couple years.

to me thats what she said is owned by todd off scrubs, fuck a office.

true story: Steve Carell's dad was a bishop

Lutz's "West Ham drew nil-nil with Wolves!?" kills me

da croupier, well put!

when tracy gives a speech at his old school, donald glover is the gay kid

Is this coming back this week?

next wk

ths wk

"Queen Of Jordan." Presumably with always welcome guest star Sherri Shepard.