A new 30 Rock thread because I can't find the old one

kanyewest Kanye West
an abortion can cost a ballin' nigga up to 50gs maybe a 100. Gold diggin' bitches be getting pregnant on purpose. #STRAPUP my niggas!
23 Feb

tanehisi Ta-Nehisi Coates
lol @comments "an abortion can cost a ballin' nigga up to 50gs maybe a 100. Gold diggin' bitches be getting pregnant on purpose, Liz Lemon."
24 Feb

Her painful Daily Show segments are proof enough. She really looks like she's trying _so_ hard to be funny, or to be perceived as funny. But she's just not funny.

Right on. And it's less about the material than her delivery. Her timing is kind of abominable. The similarly dire Josh Gad didn't last this long.

why are we talking about olivia munn - did jordan think abby was her again or something?

read the thread, numbnuts

You guys should punch your optometrists in the face.

― Kerm, Saturday, February 26, 2011 4:48 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

i dunno dude on first glance it seemed pretty plausible

http://www.daemonstv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/30-ROCK-TGS-Hates-Women-Season-5-Episode-16-3.jpg
http://www.usnewsupdates.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Iliza-Shlesinger.jpg

plus Shlesinger won an NBC reality show not too long ago

I dunno, I think if you've seen Sarah Silverman more than twice, I find it hard to believe anyone could confuse the two.

my post had nothing to do with Sarah Silverman (nor did the 2 posts directly before Kerm's post) though?

Yeah true...I must have skipped a bit of vital discourse.

think Iliza's pic also belongs in ws2011 thread on 77

this episode wasn't very funny

I had to keep asking myself whether or not it was Sarah Silverman as well

...

what the hell is wrong w/ you ppl

why do all chicks look the same to u

yeah, how you could you mistake a chick in a wig & speaking in a fake voice as someone else

she looks kinda like ss

rollin my dam eyez

sarah silverman does the same voice, looks nothing like her though.

you are all retards

all of you

laughed when Kenneth started singing "slave of jesus, hear my tale"

I dunno the whole denoument with the crazy ex-husband just seemed like a joke from a lesser show.

OTM. Dud episode imo.

at first that plotline seemed ridiculous and pathetic but it's somehow managed to make more sense since

one thing about this last episode is that for issues that seem really important to tina fey (women's roles in media, feminism, etc) the show seemed really unclear about its position. obv it's still a sitcom and i didn't expect some kind of polemic but i feel like it would've been handled more insightfully in earlier seasons. was tina fey wrong to convince abbey not to act that way bc abbey had a legitimate excuse? why couldn't she hide out from her boyfriend without having a totally demeaning persona? why did they even hire her too? if her previous persona was totally hidden away, why would tina fey bring her in to make the show more women-friendly? did she just have no idea what kind of act she did? the whole thing was just totally incoherent.

I thought one of the jokes is how incoherent post-feminism is.

That particular joke is a little nihilistic if you're not offering an alternative imho

People seem to be forgetting that the Jack storyline was the best (only really good?) part of this episode.

also is there an alternative/solution to the post-feminist problem? don't read up on this stuff anymore but before Sex and the City completely flamed out with the films it was still something of a conundrum back then.

I think you guys are burying the lede, which is that Lutz got laid.

^^^^^^^^^^

...by sarah silverman!

Lutz/Kimmel

http://images.broadwayworld.com/upload/18021/9.jpg
http://www.absolutely.net/Sarah_Silverman/index.jpg

i didn't think it was Silverman but all this JEEZ ARE YOU BLIND stuff is a little over the top

I didn't think it was Silverman either but clearly she and Olivia Munn (and Jenny McCarthy?) were among the inspirations for that character.

i thought silverman + abbey looked the same throughout the episode. esp when she was dressed like a baby and talking exactly like Silverman

so what is the real chick's ACTUAL name

I thought it was Jennifer Love Hewitt.

haha I came real close to saying "omg is it JLH" when she first appeared but 12 seconds in I could see it wasn't. on first quick glance tho...

didn't really like this ep except for the girl owning jack

never liked sarah silverman and she was p bad in this

lol

i thought it was jennifer love hewitt and sarah silverman even tho im aware those are separate people

fusion, man

thought the lack of clarity was kind of the point--these are difficult issues! im not sure 30-minute sitcoms are the best place to be looking for alternatives to the post-feminist dilemma anyway. also maybe unrelated btu sometimes i think the point/role of comedy is to complicate things

for the record i think i was the first person to mention silverman and i wasn't saying i thought it was silverman, i was saying that the character seemed inspired by silverman

It didn't seem to complicate things to me. It just seemed kind of empty and pointless. Maybe I wouldn't have minded as much if I'd found Abbey's character to be either funny or likeable/endearing

was tina fey wrong to convince abbey not to act that way bc abbey had a legitimate excuse? why couldn't she hide out from her boyfriend without having a totally demeaning persona? why did they even hire her too? if her previous persona was totally hidden away, why would tina fey bring her in to make the show more women-friendly? did she just have no idea what kind of act she did? the whole thing was just totally incoherent.

I was wondering these things while watching too. Why would Abbey Flynn have even been celebrated by joanofsnark in the first place?

Enjoyed Jack's storyline though.

thought the lack of clarity was kind of the point--these are difficult issues! im not sure 30-minute sitcoms are the best place to be looking for alternatives to the post-feminist dilemma anyway.

― max, Sunday, February 27, 2011 6:09 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i basically agree w/this but felt like they couldve gotten in a couple more direct hits, been more cutting, deeply zingy or something

ILX has gotten turgidly stupid.

felt like a dig at silverman for sure. thought the end with the homicidal husband was more a way to screw liz lemon over for laughs as usual than complicating the issue

interesting that this ep was written by one man

TV episodes tend to have one writer credit for whoever came up w/ the basic plot but on a show like 30 Rock most of the jokes/dialogue come from who knows how many staff writers

also, steve carrell 'owns' 'that's what she said'?

exqueeze me? baking powder?