"Aliens" : Some nice effects, but actually kind've a crap film.

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Plus the underwater scene, the scene with the other failed Ripley clones, and that one where the alien gets into the transport full of safety-belted marines/soldiers so the officer-guy just rolls a grenade in there. So good, this movie.

― Dan I., Friday, 20 August 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

It sucks that Warwick form CSI dies som needlesslyy. I watched it last week ansd was suprised by how much it didn't suckas much as the firstbtiem O watched it.

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 20 August 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Aliens is utterlyu great, fucka ll teh haters.

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 20 August 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't like any of the alien movies, not sure why.

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 20 August 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Alien 3 at least tried to put a new spin on things, i I remember correctly (and took the "big guns" element away, no? Wasn't it in some space prison without weapons....and hair?) That said, the ridiculously overwrought symbolism of Ripley's sacrifice at the end left me as cold and clammy as the set looked. Alien Resurrection? I gave up expecting anything by then. I remember being significantly creeped out by the botched clone element and the hybridized alien-human baby thing, but the whole thing didn't win me over. I remember her being in it, but I can't for the life of me remember what Winona brought to the table of any substance, if anything.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 21 August 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't like any of the alien movies, not sure why.

What type of goth are you! You're fired.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 August 2004 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex, you should seek out that other version of Alien 3. Is it good? No, not really, but it's better than what was released. Many of the stupid things the studio imposed are gone, and it's closer to what Fincher originally envisioned.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Saturday, 21 August 2004 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

but I can't for the life of me remember what Winona brought to the table of any substance, if anything.

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...) (webmail), August 20th, 2004 8:48 PM. (vassifer) (later) (link)

additional hottness?

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 21 August 2004 06:43 (twenty-one years ago)

No, she brought nothing. The movie was great, but it would have been exactly as great without her. Her role was a total void. She did nothing. I think pretty much the only plot point that hinged on her character was where she had to hook herself into the ship's computer for some stupid contrived reason, like to open some doors or something.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Saturday, 21 August 2004 07:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh there might have also been some "Oh no! Ripley has 'issues' with droids (or whatever they called them in those movies)! Look out!" stuff.

Ooh and also as a sort of waypoint on Ripley's movie-long seething lesbian lust rampage until it came to rest on the Queen alien.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Saturday, 21 August 2004 07:12 (twenty-one years ago)

ok so i watched this again (thank you alex for reminding me of this terrific movie!) and when it was over i am slightly embarrassed to say that i exclaimed loudly to no one in particular, "rockin' good times!"

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 21 August 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

also to clear up any controversy, when riply activates the torch on the loader she presses a button marked "welder"!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 21 August 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

also some of the marines stuff is a bit corny but i loved it anyway

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 21 August 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

slocki I love you.

― cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 21 August 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

also i think regardless this is a very well-written movie. vahid i think mentioned the bishop/ash thing, and how that carried over from the first movie; it's a good example of how relationships between characters in this movie are very well-mapped out, and how they change over the course of the film (vasquez and the shaky lieutenant is another example)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 21 August 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

the bishop - vasquez axis is so fucking great and I'm not explaining it.

― cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 21 August 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

also i cannot express enough my love for bill paxton in this movie

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 21 August 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck I mean vasquez - um not apone yeah 'shaky lieutenant' relationship. this is only three glasses of wine!

x-post

otm! "GAME OVER MAN!" (no comma!)

― cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 21 August 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i forget the lieutenant's name. but he's not apone, that's the sarge who gets killed in that wicked first firefight in the nest (the use of the portable video cameras & life-sign monitors in that scene is pretty virtuosic btw)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 21 August 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

gorman.

― cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 21 August 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

yes!!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 21 August 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

and can i say for the record that paul reiser is totally good in this movie! he does a great 80s corporate scumbag smoothie

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 21 August 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

... edged with reticence and shady doubt.

― cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 21 August 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Disgusting self-serving yuppie dick-licking that you can believe!

― R.I.M.A. (Barima), Saturday, 21 August 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

t i exclaimed loudly to no one in particular, "rockin' good times!"

Hahahahahahahaha. I love that.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 22 August 2004 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

"Al-yens = crap"
"OMG. No."
"Yes."
"But, like, no."
"Yes."
"Still, though...no, eh?"
"Yes."
"NO!"
"Yes."
"No, damn you."
"Yes."
"But like, look at this here - no."
"Yes."
"Still, um, well, wouldn't it be like -"
"Yes."

― Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 22 August 2004 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

did you highfive yourself after you wrote that girolamo?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 22 August 2004 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Nah, I just shook my own hand.

― Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 22 August 2004 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Dudes who don't like Aliens be cool-levelheaded, don't give a fuck types, whilst dudes who do like Aliens be spaztic, easily excitable dweebs.

Reverse the roles for Alien, though.

― Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 22 August 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

The portable video-camera and life sign monitor bit is great, yes. I'd forgotten about that.

I watched Sigourney Weaver in "Galaxy Quest" last night, btw!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 22 August 2004 08:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Dudes who don't like Aliens be cool-levelheaded, don't give a fuck types, whilst dudes who do like Aliens be spaztic, easily excitable dweebs.
Reverse the roles for Alien, though.

-- Gear! (drink_to_remembe...), August 22nd, 2004.

i take offense at that, ALIENS IS TEH BEST MOOVIE EVER YOU SATANIC HEATHENITE MARTIAN FUXOR

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

AND IA IN'T EASILY EXCITATITABALE OR WHATEVERS

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 22 August 2004 18:11 (twenty-one years ago)

the extras on disc 2 are very good, real aliens-production-porn

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 22 August 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Dominique Pinon as the paraplegic whose unfeeling legs keep getting injured. I don't know if I'm remembering right, but I think there was a scene where one of the other space pirates (space pirates!) sort of casually throws a knife into his leg and he doesn't notice for a minute, and when he does his reaction is like "oh man, why'd you do that!?"

Ron Perlman (aforementioned knife-wielder) should be in every movie.

The Space Pirate Captain is almost as great (and he was hands-down my favorite actor as a kid, for his performance in Robin Hood) - "She is... severely fuckable, isn't she?"

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 22 August 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw yeah he's the bad guy from The Crow isn't he? Damn, Alien 4 had the best cast too!

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Monday, 23 August 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael Wincott is his name i believe.

Alien Resurrection is entertaining by itself, but for me it was just too jokey and tongue in cheek to work as an Alien movie.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 23 August 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I do like Alien 3 a lot, though.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 23 August 2004 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael Wincott is his name i believe.

His role in "Dead Man" is hilarious.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Resurrection is fine you complaining complainers

― jones (actual), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

i have never seen Resurrection after the original viewing in the theaters, the day after it was released in 1997.

not sure why.

also have never seen Alien 3 all the way thru since originally seeing it twice in the theaters...

― Lt. Kingfish Del Pickles (Kingfish), Thursday, 26 August 2004 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i just watched like every special feature on the aliens double-disc as well as the long version of the movie as well as the commentary this week and it is all thanks to alex!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 26 August 2004 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

You're welcome.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 26 August 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

god, i tried to watch two different dvd commentaries last weekend and failed each time. on "the rules of the game" peter bogdanovich talks sooo fast, like the micromachines guy, such that there is no emphasis anywhere and you can't follow it at all without getting a splitting headache. then i tried to watch a donald ritchie commentary on some kurosawa film but after about 10 minutes you can tell he was just winging it, "uh, here kurosawa is filming a house, er, houses were very common in the japan of the edo era, er."

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 26 August 2004 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

see? welder, i told you.

― g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 26 August 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i was thinking about watching that bogdanovich commentary! his citizen kane one is notoriously bad though

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

That's for damned sure.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

he didn't write the "rules of the game" commentary but he reads it, at about 150 words per minute.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

you know, objectively, peter bogdanovich seems like a decent guy, but my gut reaction is one of disgust. maybe it's the ascots?

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

his ascent to 'film expert' or whatever he is was pretty sneaky

― jones (actual), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

he was always a self-proclaimed film expert! even before he was a filmmaker!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

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