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Youre no oil painting yourself Momus
I would like a late mannerist like Tinortetto please.

anthony, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sorry Anthony, you left out the all-important apostrophe and comma.

Momus, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't like digital photography. The moment there are good printers and affordable digital cameras, I will maybe give in. But that isn't the case yet. So I will leave my Camedia at home. And drag my IXUS camera with me. Sulking that I didn't buy an EOS yet.
Actually no cameras on holidays. That's how it should be. Make pictures with your brain.

nathalie, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

okay. I am despondent but the taskmasters at the boardign school i went to said grammar was vital. If only I knew if i parsed i could have oil paintings of minor cult figures surronded(sp) by naked cherubs.

anthony, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tom, I hate to sound like Nick but what about Tillmans' formal properties, or the way he uses those friends to evoke the composition of other paintings? Very lo-fi use of tools close to hand is smart, was necessary in the early '90s when WT started his practice and makes a good juxtaposition when seen in a large, imposing gallery space. At least to me.

Nick: if you actually read MY paragraphs a little more c.a.r.e.f.u.l.l.y you'd see that I 'got' the formalism in Araki and have seen other stuff about tying up in Japan that corresponds more directly to the work than the limp 'oh, everything's giftwrapped in Japan' explanation you provide. Hello, like I already know that. I just don't find it very INTERESTING to see that played out in Araki (pick a level, any level) and like other photographers MORE. And maybe I'm just a little bit bored with the cliché of Respected Male Artist using Compliant Female Acolyte to express formalist points, regardless of the consensual/'play' element involved.

suzy, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And how rude of you to diss my picnic guests.

suzy, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Suzy , that was an expert peice of prose. I have always thought that Akaris work was a bit misogynst . not because ot the tying up but because of the cheap object making.

anthony, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am totally willing to accept that my failure to get Tillmans' formal properties is just that - my failure. But the presence of his work in a gallery show removes the instancy/informality from it even as it serves to emphasise the formal properties, which was my original point.

(Anyway even so Takahashi (sp?) should have walked it. That installation was grate.)

Tom, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I like it when informality is brought to a formal space which can otherwise alienate through formality/stuffiness. Tomoko Takahashi - whose installation I liked but didn't win because she has done much better stuff elsewhere - has a GENIUS internet project called Word Perhect. I don't have the URL for it but if you Google I promise fun will be had.

This year's prize: keep an eye on Mike Nelson.

suzy, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Suzy: So Nan Goldin, Hiromix and other women artists who have worked with Araki were just failing to see women's best interests, were they?

As for dissing your guests, consider it my revenge for being judged, by many of these same people, a FOOL in Freaky Trigger's 'Am I Cool Or Not' beauty contest back in May. I didn't take it amiss, and neither will they, I'm sure.

Tom: agree about Tomoko Takahashi, by the way, I thought that installation was great too. Looked like parts of my room.

Momus, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I linked to Word Perhect - which they had set up at the Turner too tho I don't think it was in competition - on my old weblog: it was the main thing that got me interested in seeing the Turner exhib. Apparently it's moved though: this looks like it works.

Tom, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Actually I don't think any of the party guests voted in that AICON. And spare a thought for poor old me - dissed by Momus AND voted a fool BY MY OWN READERS!

Tom, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Failing to see women's best interests? And those are what, exactly?

Oh, Nicolath, don't be tho thtoopid.

suzy, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I played/am playing with the font program right now and it is fascinating
Fonts cribbed from popular culture seem to be gettign more and more prevalnt. For an example i have the fight club and the lewinsky font on my machine

In hip style magazines ( nest, Wallpaper, the vouges, dutch all in the past 6 months) it seems like they are talking more and more about statioanry.

There seems to be an explosion of font choices and fonts seem to be a design indicator. We know who you or your club/organaztion is by the font they use

Does this mean my typos, spelling mistakes and freakish grammar are hip

I know this has nothing to do with photography.

anthony, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Was I in Dutch this month? Haven't seen it yet.

Momus, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I can't possibly vote on Nick's AICON, that's what he bought the last time we went shopping together. Like my computer says when there's a glitch, 'it's not my fault'.

suzy, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Suzy: Will I tell the story about how Domsey's staff took all your purchases and put them back on the shelves because you left them unattended? All except the dress some girl had already gone off with, forcing you to run up and down four floors to get it back off her?

Momus, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, you just did but whoa, unreliable narrator, it wasn't four floors and THE DRESS WAS FOR YOU. You will deny my (drum roll) photographic memory?

suzy, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This morning I think I Really Love Music

mark s, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sending you a virtual Noogie, Nick. Note: not a virtual wedgie.

suzy, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Search: Illford HP5+ (I've pushed four stops before [to 3200] and still had useable results), 2 1/4" square negs, Nikon N90s.

Destroy: Tri-X, Cannon Rebel, APS or any other off-size roll film, inc. that old 110 shit in the thin package.

JM, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was wondering if anyone here did photography, either professionally or as a serious hobbyist. I'm going to have to get a *real* camera soon, because we all have to take photography and darkroom in this design program I'm in. I'm looking forward to it, but I'm a little intimidated by the equipment.

Kerry, Sunday, 12 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dijkstra was the person i was thinking of Suzy. In Art Forum last year there were two series that convinced me she was grate. Her photos of israeli soilders and one of her beach scenes put up beside cezannes bather. It worked beutifully

anthony, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Kerry, that is one of the reasons I asked the question. My friend - an art student - said I only had to pick up a camera and snap away. No courses, those are superfluous. So why is HE in art acedemy? Anyhow saw a documentary on Lee Miller. I need to get a book on her.

nathalie, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three years pass...
http://www.edwardburtynsky.com/

The LA Times had a review of his exhibition Manufactured Landscapes at the Museum of Photographic Arts in San Diego. It ends on June 5. It's a 2 hour drive, but I think it might be worth it.

youn, Friday, 27 May 2005 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I've love Dijkstra, especially her closer up portraits.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 27 May 2005 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
where is a serious nyc film lab that aims e6 processing?

gabbneb, Monday, 7 May 2007 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

uhhhhhhh all of them?

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Monday, 7 May 2007 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

Go to Duggal /nonpithyanswer

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Monday, 7 May 2007 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

Search: Nan Goldin, Man Ray, Larry Clark, Richard Kern,...
Destroy: digital cameras used on holiday.

-- nathalie (nathalie), Saturday, August 11, 2001 12:00 AM (5 years ago)


I don't understand the destroy bit.

Ned Trifle II, Monday, 7 May 2007 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/photography/genius/ could be interesting

"Follow the story of photography in BBC Four's six-part series 'The Genius of Photography'. See some of the most famous photographs ever taken and find out more about what made them so very special."

koogs, Thursday, 25 October 2007 10:40 (eighteen years ago)

Quite looking forward to this - it's being trailed heavily in Amateur Photographer (which thesedays isn't remotely the soft pr0n mag it resembled in the '80s - no "glamour" tips). However, it clashes with the football and Serafinowicz and I don't have a functioning VCR, so I'll be staying up late for the repeat.

Quite a good thread this, back in the day.

I found a big box of presumably expired or near-expiry film the other day in our shed - probably dating from the days when I got a free film every time I got something developed at PhotoOptix in Welwyn (also some late-'90s stuff which I presumably bought in the US and some mid-'70s Minolta stock for the 16 sub-mini). Still, there's a Flickr group especially for expired film, so I'll be contributing lousy images to that...

Michael Jones, Thursday, 25 October 2007 10:57 (eighteen years ago)

Good start - beats all those silly seasons like 'Doctors on TV' (though it does give an opportunity to catch a repeat of "Cardiac Arrest") or 'Archeology night'.

Shame they covered the whole 'Is photography art?' debate. I suppose they had to, but it's lame.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 27 October 2007 12:32 (eighteen years ago)

this was great, looking forward to the next part next week

Ste, Saturday, 27 October 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

I've seen nothing but a tiny entry in the time out art section, but there is an exhibition on at the atlas gallery http://www.atlasgallery.com/ to accompany the Genius of Photography series.

On a vaguely related theme, I went to see the Chuck Close exhibition today at the West End White Cube http://www.whitecube.com/artists/close/ - strongly recommended.

Daniel Giraffe, Saturday, 27 October 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

I don't understand the destroy bit.

What mostly irks me is that sometimes people just shoot a picture and then don't stop and really watch what they photographed.

stevienixed, Saturday, 27 October 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

You can't really tell that from the photos they take, though.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 October 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

is this being torrented anywhere yet? No sign of a sale to BBC America or PBS.

milo z, Saturday, 27 October 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

amazing surrealist photography:

http://www.parkeharrison.com/

Rubyredd, Saturday, 27 October 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

Been finally getting round to Luc Sante's blog on photography. I enjoyed his contributions to the BBC4 doc, so...

http://ekotodi.blogspot.com/

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 23 December 2007 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

No photograph can be considered as identical to its content; every photograph is an individually wrought object that has passed through hands, rooms, climate, and every photograph is a grinning skull.
I hate 9/10s of writing about photography.

stet, Sunday, 23 December 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

the best museum photo retrospective i've seen is the roy decarava one at MOMA (i think) like 12 years ago. his stuff really engaged me in a way most "art" photography fails to.

gershy, Sunday, 23 December 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

I hate 9/10s of writing about photography art

Sparkle Motion, Sunday, 23 December 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

the Hiroshi Sugimoto retrospective I saw at the Ft. Worth Modern was incredible

milo z, Sunday, 23 December 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

Just went and saw the Steichen/Stieglitz/Strand thing at the Met and tbh I found it really fucking boring for the most part. Photography got better after them.

I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Monday, 27 December 2010 04:53 (fifteen years ago)

none of those three are among my favs

dayo, Monday, 27 December 2010 12:09 (fifteen years ago)

search: patrick joust and dans240z on flickr

cherry blossom, Monday, 27 December 2010 18:43 (fifteen years ago)

^^love these

where they douthat at (donna rouge), Monday, 27 December 2010 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

THINK this is that chevron station

where they douthat at (donna rouge), Monday, 27 December 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

Connie Imboden

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_I3KAcwEJR8I/SwLCe6Lf6mI/AAAAAAAAC_0/fk_Y65kBc20/s1600/ConnieImboden_4.jpg

Yours sincerely, Bad Poetry (Sanpaku), Monday, 27 December 2010 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

lol joe u r the greatest

plax (ico), Monday, 27 December 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

Between the Cartier-Bresson exhibit, the Nan Goldin slideshow, and "Voyeurism, Surveillance, and the Camera Since 1870", SF MOMA is a pretty fun right now for photography fans.

I Am Kurious Assange (polyphonic), Monday, 27 December 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

like, these are what i want my holiday photos to look like

plax (ico), Monday, 27 December 2010 21:04 (fifteen years ago)

Stephen Shore's large format stuff is amazing. Particularly the Canadian leg of the Uncommon Places trip. The Nature of Photographs is a great book too. One of the best things I've ever read on the subject.

C0L1N B..., Monday, 27 December 2010 21:32 (fifteen years ago)

yeh stephen shore seems to be the hip '70s eggleston-alternative' photographer to namecheck these days. I like the nature of photographers but I like szarkowski's photographers eye more.

robert adam is a shredder. for color, I also love joel sternfeld

dayo, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:06 (fifteen years ago)

yes! joel sternfeld is fn A

also i think i might have over-repped this lady in the past but melanie schiff is still several kinds of awesome for me.

http://kavigupta.com/images/KaviGuptaGallery000183.jpg

http://kavigupta.com/images/KaviGuptaGallery000182.jpg

http://kavigupta.com/images/KaviGuptaGallery000349.jpg

plax (ico), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:19 (fifteen years ago)

also i think dayo that theres something inherently diff. in how u look at photographs, that is as somebody who's interested in photography*. they are a pretty functional thing for me so my appreciation of certain aspects is obv. pretty dimmed. still that functionality is prolly why i like warhol's polaroids so much.

http://www.hypebeast.com/image/2009/01/andy-warhol-still-life-polaroid-exhibition-1.jpg

http://www.lamjc.com/local/cache-vignettes/L431xH550/6ffcdb40-e0e6f.jpg

*also def. apprec. ur knowledge on these threads. srsly teach me more things.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:29 (fifteen years ago)

lol plax I feel the same way w/r/t you and art! I don't really have any 'grounding' in art at all but really love the stuff you bring.

those melanie schiff pix are very beautiful

dayo, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:37 (fifteen years ago)

btw plax just realized i live near AGNES AVE, will have to snap a pic sometime

where they douthat at (donna rouge), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:47 (fifteen years ago)

and co-sign warhol's polaroids

http://refinedvanguards.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/awg1.jpg

where they douthat at (donna rouge), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:48 (fifteen years ago)

loool pele!

plax (ico), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:50 (fifteen years ago)

Just went and saw the Steichen/Stieglitz/Strand thing at the Met and tbh I found it really fucking boring for the most part. Photography got better after them.

― I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Sunday, December 26, 2010 11:53 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

none of those three are among my favs

― dayo, Monday, December 27, 2010 7:09 AM Bookmark

Like there were very few really striking images in the show, other than maybe O'Keefe's boobs. There's a famous semi-abstract one of shadows on a white table that I like. There was a downright shitty portrait of Stieglitz by Strand -- bad light, poor contrast, not particularly interesting or revealing of character. The flatiron building at night photos are uninteresting except for the flatiron building itself. I don't mean to say that newer tech is generally better, but photo tech really did get much, much better in the ensuing decades, and you wind up with much better photography.

I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 19:12 (fifteen years ago)

i saw a big steichen thing in madrid a few years ago that i loved. I love the ridic. isadora duncans at the parthenon, the tiny little early domestic scenes (tho these are little-seen maybe?) the Garbo portrait and also the staginess of all his portraits (they let the sitter project the image they want to project, theres something generously enabling about his set ups, nothing is revealed) I like the glassiness of his surfaces, the expensive sheen of his commercial work

plax (ico), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 19:57 (fifteen years ago)

xp was the show curated using vintage prints?

dayo, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 01:04 (fifteen years ago)

four months pass...
two years pass...

Carrie Mae Weems won a MacArthur Grant:

http://gawker.com/list-of-macarthur-genius-grant-recipients-leaked-early-1381201894

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 02:50 (twelve years ago)

seven months pass...

Not really in the spirit of this thread (but not worth starting a new one):

Anyone recommend any "photobooks" for printing/keeping own photos? The Moleskine one is too much hassle. Couldn't get Bobbooks to work. Snapfish was okay rather than brilliant.

djh, Thursday, 22 May 2014 20:44 (twelve years ago)

(UK)

djh, Thursday, 22 May 2014 20:45 (twelve years ago)

You should ask Michael Jones

, Friday, 23 May 2014 01:28 (twelve years ago)

?

djh, Friday, 23 May 2014 17:29 (twelve years ago)

djh we talked a little about books here:

photo-breezing

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Friday, 23 May 2014 18:12 (twelve years ago)

Ta.

djh, Saturday, 24 May 2014 16:54 (twelve years ago)

three years pass...

https://instagram.com/p/BZ7czYtF_b5/

calstars, Sunday, 8 October 2017 01:42 (eight years ago)


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