Nathan Barley comes to TV

"They don't realise it's not good cos it's rude, yeah?"
"Yeah, it's good because it looks like it's good because it's rude." (the lazy-gobbed questioning-intonation is a bonus)

I had to install QT* to watch that again, which meant I had to install iTunes. I'm LIVING IN THE FUTURE.

(Funny cos I had to deliver a project in QT last week and I couldn't even watch the finished article at my desk.)

"Once the idiots were just fools gawping in through the windows. Now they've entered the building..."

I think a lot of the comedy in the print version came from the unhinged, psychopathic overstatement of the narrator's hatred of Barley for relatively trivial crimes against taste and morality. Who was this fellow, if not Barley's repressed, self-hating alter ego? I'll be interested if they show Ashcroft as a 'centre of goodness' – a reasonable and likeable man – or a jittering neurotic Goebbels, full of repressed, passionate, hissing, spitting, volatile-projected self-hatred.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1405547,00.html

key words relate to bleeding-edge 'creatives' being perfectly able to satirize themselves. i always thought the savagery of tvgohome was maxed so that you wdn't confuse it with halfway-house shite like shoreditdch twat -- it isn't comfortable satire, it's flamewar.

hmmmm.

BUT the trailers look good and thinking on it, there's no really new paradigm that's emerged to displace the barleys in "new media" circles, so it can't be that dated.

sleaze nation is still going, right? i love the dnb soundtrack on the trailer, it's exactly right.

also i have a lot invested in barley. my first ever paid piece of writing was on tvgohome, three years back. i got to use 'cunt', 'fuck', and 'pissant' in my maiden piece! woo!

xpost -- watts, say nothing!

i can't remember how i came across tvgohome but i was 18 years old and not living in london -- but anyway, my line was nathan barley helps 'explain' things that normals do know about, in advertising, magazine design, fashion, ect. after all comabat trousers, scooters, trucker caps all ended up quite high street.

i've never been a part of the media-wanker circus but have had first-hand experience of barleys -- it isn't that small a world, perhaps.

I hate to be a hata, but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=15150907&method=full&siteid=89488&headline=the-man-who-drinks-petrol-name_page.html

sleaze closed last year after a relaunch. i remember reading tvgohome with relish back during my shockingly short stint editing the music section there. there were some great people at the mag, but plenty of nathan barleys too. it didn't seem like satire, more reportage. so i will enjoy the series, i reckon.

also i have a lot invested in barley. my first ever paid piece of writing was on tvgohome, three years back. i got to use 'cunt', 'fuck', and 'pissant' in my maiden piece! woo!

i snuck the word 'pisspoor' into the times, early on in my career. my dad thought it was poor journalism to use the word!

he has a point here but i'll reserve judgement 'til i've seen tonight's episode which i'm really looking forward to!

can't wait for torrents.

1) Who'll turn up in the series first: Kevin Eldon or Mark Heap?
2) Which episode and how long into it will this be?

Winner gets something or other.

he has been involved in just about everything the past 6 years.

tvgohome was intensely vitriolic, but i al ways felt it was the bitter anger of just some old guys who werent really in touch anymore, but just took it out on a bunch of idiots. the "cunt" bits of tvgh were the least funny anyway.

"it became difficult to distinguish between genuine creatives and opportunistic charlatans."

oh yeah real creatives theres a ton of them about, many of them with the surname Boorman, eh neil?

"Why the real players in youth culture are never drafted in to help is a mystery"

hahahaha WTF you mean, like, kids? oh no, you mean NB and a bunch of failures from sleaze. theyre the real players in youth culture.

that article is pathetic

from the stills gallery: is this kevin eldon?

http://www.trashbat.co.ck/images/barley/gallery/programme_stills/still_5.jpg

if it is, then my bet's on him.

-- Markelby

Hata.

I haven't seen even a trailer for the show, but I imagine this idea of casting to be the truth.

Or a useful phrase for an ILX Lurker?

splendid idea!

ach, it was only on for half hour tonight totally wasn't expecting that.

still enjoying it.

watched last night's, and about 10 minutes of tonight. that'll be it for me. it's so fucking dull. beyond the basic premise -- big brother! zombies! -- there's absolutely nothing there, is there? the characters are ciphers, the action is predictable, the outcome interests me not a jot.

(and i appreciate what chewshabadoo says upthread about the characterisation improving, but i can't be arsed waiting around for that to happen!)

the installments are too short. would have been cool 90 minutes than two 60 minutes.

looks quite good for the budget. Obviously going off that whole current-horror movie thing with the fast cutting, the handheld, the shutter speeds etc..., but it's fine. Hardly groundbreaking or terribly inventive so far, but still a really enjoyable zombie horror by my standards. Glad the satire hasn't really got in the way of anything.

lol at Pippa telling that producer guy he was using up the oxygen

"it's not a fucking submarine"

Dead Set thread here:
Dead Set - E4 Big Brother Zombie thing!

is this out of print on DVD? anyone know where i can order it, preferably cheaply, and have it shipped to the US? (it's ridiculously expensive on amazon.co.uk.)

if you know how to use torrents then you can get it on http://thebox.bz/ - i think they have open sign up just now but if you need or want an invite then give me a shout.

It *is* out of print, aggravatingly (my copy was scratched when I lent it to someone). It went from being stacked in every HMV for 5 pounds to being tough to find in a matter of weeks, seemingly. The first 2 Charlie Brooker books are similarly tough to track down!

Sold my copy of Brookers' TV Go Home book for £40 on eBay, to none other than... actor Michael Fenton Stevens

£40?! That makes it the most valuable book I own!

the DVD is awesome. comes with that booklet and so many extras on the DVD itself. torrents don't really compare to the whole package.

true true, my friend ran off te manchester wit mine. bitch.

keep it foolish yea

oh great, downloaded this as a torrent and none of the files work AWESOME thanks internet go die.

Pssst-
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Kfairy&view=videos

Not amazing quality, but perfectly watchable.

thanks, yeah, i know (that's where i saw them the first time). problem is my wife wants to watch it, and for reasons i can't go into here (or fathom) she hates watching video on the computer.

saw this just before christmas in hmv and bought it thinking it was out of print. amazon has cheaper copies so i guess they've repressed it, or whatever you do with dvds. bum.

still a great dvd to own.

hell, I don't think I have a region-free player hooked up now, I might have to copy this over to my pc

i'm not a preacher man

keep it chopped out, yeah?

Toby, you rim-licker. How's it fucking collapsing?

well fucking weapon

Someone has upscaled this and posted it all on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtWTIY-isko

First time I've seen it since it was first broadcast nearly 20 years ago and tbh not really feeling it, first episode is ok, second is bad, not going to continue but might check out the bit with Kevin Eldon.