New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

wonder if Versions will have a k00l diff view for programming

if this is implemented at the file system level, which that guy who reviews each major revision for ars technica has been going on about since ~10.3, then it's a massive change.

need to go 15" to get grafix right?

yes you need to spend at least £1500 to get a mediocre card rising to £1850 for a slightly less mediocre card

apple really need to sort this shit out :(

could the 15" handle bejewelled on facebook tho

lots of page outs probably

Finally, after all this time of documents not saving themselves, Apple comes to the rescue in 2011 with Auto Save. Where would we be without Steve Jobs?

if they can make it so that the concept of saving becomes obsolete then that will be a huge and long overdue achievement

I'm happy about that but a little confused. I like how it works when I use google docs, but I never use google docs for important work. With real work, I'm constantly saving out different versions and "revert to saved" is pretty essential. I guess if it's autosaving you just have to look at the clock and "revert to 3:30 version" or something. I also worry about storage. Files that are several hundred megs, several gigs, can we handle multiple versions of everything?

http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/

Scroll down to 'Versions'

hmm, Mail 5 better give me my folders as a sidebar or there's going to be trouble.

So Airdrop isn't exactly the Dropbox killer everyone's been waiting for?

Generally, Apple is a pretty smart company. This is just halo-effect smartness...they're even changing the scrolling to match iPhone/iPad. People like my mother and step-father, longtime PC users. Buy an iPad because it's a consumer device. They love it. Then they wonder, are the computers like this? And now they will be.

Yeah. It's always been pretty clear that Apple would pull its iOS features across to the Macs in some form (be daft not to, frankly). iOS is in no conceivable way perfect but it's very easy to learn and use without manuals etc.

Oh and the first release of Lion will be hilariously buggy. Can't wait for the fallout.

We have told you there's an apple hate thread, right?

ahahahaha. I'm probably not expressing how pleased I am that OS X is adopting some sensible UI conventions and (hopefully) gutting out that god-awful finder.

dan I'd be way happier with the concept of snapshots. even if it amounts to the same thing as saving. the prospect that you could lose 2hrs of work because you got a power cut or forgot a magic keystroke should just. not. ever. happen. but yeah I want to know more details.

(aa here) yeah I've got to say that after looking into how autosave and versions actually work I'm quite impressed. It makes perfect sense to take the whole time machine design principle and apply it to everything that requires saving.

(of course the worst thing about it is that Microsoft won't support it until Office 2017)

somehow I think this autosave function is gonna lead to a lot of corrupted files

idk

also I can foresee 50 years now, authors will release 'track changes' version of their epic books, so you can see the progress starting from the genesis

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/02/24/mac-os-x-lion-building-in-support-for-super-high-resolution-retina-monitors

yr resolution independence is in there ^ stet btw

yah I saw that, pretty dope

I was watching one of my students play smurfs farmville or w/e on her iphone4 and it was amazing how detailed the 1mm high smurf was

somehow I think this autosave function is gonna lead to a lot of corrupted files

Especially when working off a server. Or will this just not work when working off a server?

I'd hope the auto save thingo would be designed well enough (at file system level) that one corrupted file doesn't kill every revision.

Where do you all stand on the new backwards scrolling mechanic? I think it's brilliant.

so I had to restore my iPhone and iPad and redownload a bunch of apps, and it charged me again for a bunch of them. it ended up being like $100+ since I redownloaded both 1password and Logmein to both devices plus a bunch of other apps, so I'm obviously going to have to contest the charges with Apple. has anyone ever had to deal with this?

Depending on the pricing, thunderbolt portable HDs could be a huge fucking deal for me. I was on a shoot the other day that had hours of downtime because we were using a USB HD.

At least use FW, man!

I know, right? No one had the right cables (I was not in charge here), and the eSata drive wouldn't work for whatever reason.

I had the same thing happen with apps on my phone last year when I had to do a restore, but since I only paid for 2 apps it wasn't much money, and I didn't bother contesting it. But yeah, it can happen

That's pretty bad. Why has a bigger deal not been made of it?

(in the press, I mean)

Because it can't happen. If you use the same account to repurchase the apps you won't be charged. (it says you will purchase it again, but you don't get charged).

The only way you'd actually get charged again would be by using a different iTunes account second time round.

that isn't true, I was charged twice. but, they might have fixed this since.

It's been like this since app store launched. Did you use two different country stores? Compare the email receipts for both, if the email addresses and stores match then you've gotta big story.

(also getting the cash back if it's the same a/c should be pretty straightforward -- click the "report a problem" link in the receipt and give them both order numbers (in the email subject line). Had to do the begging act that way with a film I deleted and they sorted it in a day, even though you're not allowed redl films/music)

You're not allowed to redownload films/music that you've already paid for? Really? For god's sake why?

US store, same account I've been using for years, and I still have the original iTunes receipts for most of them. all of the ones which I don't have receipts for show purchase dates from hell of earlier like this:

http://i.imgur.com/XIsYT.png

(the second bill for this came on 2/19)

the day it happened, I emailed Apple with all of this (the only contact option they offer) along w/ receipt dates, order numbers, everything; I got a confirmation email that they had received it and that I should expect a response within 24 hours but haven't heard anything else. obviously these things can take time and the weekend and God and The Bible and so on, but this is still kind of worrying since I've been redownloading apps since forever and never had this happen before.

Wouldn't bother with email -- use the customer support form. Yu get there from the "report problem" link in the receipts, and also from the "support" link inside the store on desktop iTunes. They usually get back v. quick.

AA: Reason I heard was they didn't want ppl authorising their friend's computers and redownloading everything, but sounds spurious to me. I am not a Record Company Exec, tho.

well i am and i can confirm we demanded this feature out of pure bitterness and spite, fuck yall 'computer users'!

AA: Reason I heard was they didn't want ppl authorising their friend's computers and redownloading everything, but sounds spurious to me. I am not a Record Company Exec, tho.

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Now that there's no DRM I suppose it's reasonable to expect users to manage their own backups. Still, shithouse.

I've never had a problem redownloading apps in fact when pp took my old iPhone ( he uses it as an iPod touch only on wifi so no ATT charges) all my existing apps worked fine and the ones I had deleted he could redownload for free also the ones I had downloaded onto my new phone. Not sure he ever tried to download a new one for just his phone.
I've had problems with audiobooks though. My comp at work syncs podcasts and audiobooks and my home one everything else but of course I had synced at home with 'sync audiobooks' on and it wiped all my audiobooks from my iPhone. I had to pay for those again. Sucky.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12570045

$9bn on shit

Funny how this thread and I HATE APPLe have basically become the same thread.

It didn't have to be.

Talk about complaints in the HATE thread.

Talk about lust-worthy new products and ridiculous rumors here.

Easy!

heard back from customer service and they're claiming they don't have any record of the order #s on the receipts I received from them WTF

yeah good luck getting a refund from apple. fuckers.

they are driving you to piracy, clearly

^^^^ this x 3454386592760527346793563924758