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new mail looks bollocks

Romford Spring (DG), Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:04 (fifteen years ago)

holy shit, Lion is going to be great:

"Auto Save, which automatically saves your documents as you work"

Euler, Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:10 (fifteen years ago)

crazy

Romford Spring (DG), Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

£2100 for the 17"!

Romford Spring (DG), Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

Seems to have OS X Server built in. That'll be sweet.

stet, Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:44 (fifteen years ago)

"Auto Save, which automatically saves your documents as you work"

i suspect this is actually a marketing way of describing pretty fundamental changes that makes it sound like much less of a deal than it really is

caek, Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:45 (fifteen years ago)

prolly but it still sounds hilarious

Euler, Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

Like the sound of versions, too.

stet, Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:49 (fifteen years ago)

auto-save is probably gonna be like instant time machine right

Neu! romancer (dayo), Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

i assume itll be like google docs

max, Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

Man, I thought my MBP from last year was pretty friggin awesome but these are next-level

mh, Thursday, 24 February 2011 16:03 (fifteen years ago)

wonder if Versions will have a k00l diff view for programming

jan špankwajer.com (diamonddave85), Thursday, 24 February 2011 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

if this is implemented at the file system level, which that guy who reviews each major revision for ars technica has been going on about since ~10.3, then it's a massive change.

caek, Thursday, 24 February 2011 16:49 (fifteen years ago)

need to go 15" to get grafix right?

pizzlemank (cozen), Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:43 (fifteen years ago)

yes you need to spend at least £1500 to get a mediocre card rising to £1850 for a slightly less mediocre card

apple really need to sort this shit out :(

Romford Spring (DG), Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

could the 15" handle bejewelled on facebook tho

pizzlemank (cozen), Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:51 (fifteen years ago)

lots of page outs probably

Romford Spring (DG), Thursday, 24 February 2011 17:51 (fifteen years ago)

Finally, after all this time of documents not saving themselves, Apple comes to the rescue in 2011 with Auto Save. Where would we be without Steve Jobs?

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:03 (fifteen years ago)

if they can make it so that the concept of saving becomes obsolete then that will be a huge and long overdue achievement

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

I'm happy about that but a little confused. I like how it works when I use google docs, but I never use google docs for important work. With real work, I'm constantly saving out different versions and "revert to saved" is pretty essential. I guess if it's autosaving you just have to look at the clock and "revert to 3:30 version" or something. I also worry about storage. Files that are several hundred megs, several gigs, can we handle multiple versions of everything?

dan selzer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/

Scroll down to 'Versions'

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:39 (fifteen years ago)

hmm, Mail 5 better give me my folders as a sidebar or there's going to be trouble.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:56 (fifteen years ago)

So Airdrop isn't exactly the Dropbox killer everyone's been waiting for?

Generally, Apple is a pretty smart company. This is just halo-effect smartness...they're even changing the scrolling to match iPhone/iPad. People like my mother and step-father, longtime PC users. Buy an iPad because it's a consumer device. They love it. Then they wonder, are the computers like this? And now they will be.

dan selzer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:57 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah. It's always been pretty clear that Apple would pull its iOS features across to the Macs in some form (be daft not to, frankly). iOS is in no conceivable way perfect but it's very easy to learn and use without manuals etc.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 24 February 2011 21:02 (fifteen years ago)

Oh and the first release of Lion will be hilariously buggy. Can't wait for the fallout.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 24 February 2011 21:03 (fifteen years ago)

We have told you there's an apple hate thread, right?

dan selzer, Thursday, 24 February 2011 21:24 (fifteen years ago)

ahahahaha. I'm probably not expressing how pleased I am that OS X is adopting some sensible UI conventions and (hopefully) gutting out that god-awful finder.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 24 February 2011 21:27 (fifteen years ago)

dan I'd be way happier with the concept of snapshots. even if it amounts to the same thing as saving. the prospect that you could lose 2hrs of work because you got a power cut or forgot a magic keystroke should just. not. ever. happen. but yeah I want to know more details.

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 February 2011 22:24 (fifteen years ago)

(aa here) yeah I've got to say that after looking into how autosave and versions actually work I'm quite impressed. It makes perfect sense to take the whole time machine design principle and apply it to everything that requires saving.

Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Thursday, 24 February 2011 22:27 (fifteen years ago)

(of course the worst thing about it is that Microsoft won't support it until Office 2017)

Head goes goes goes (Schlafsack), Thursday, 24 February 2011 22:28 (fifteen years ago)

somehow I think this autosave function is gonna lead to a lot of corrupted files

idk

Neu! romancer (dayo), Thursday, 24 February 2011 23:59 (fifteen years ago)

also I can foresee 50 years now, authors will release 'track changes' version of their epic books, so you can see the progress starting from the genesis

Neu! romancer (dayo), Friday, 25 February 2011 00:00 (fifteen years ago)

yr resolution independence is in there ^ stet btw

ice cr?m, Friday, 25 February 2011 00:02 (fifteen years ago)

yah I saw that, pretty dope

I was watching one of my students play smurfs farmville or w/e on her iphone4 and it was amazing how detailed the 1mm high smurf was

Neu! romancer (dayo), Friday, 25 February 2011 00:02 (fifteen years ago)

somehow I think this autosave function is gonna lead to a lot of corrupted files

Especially when working off a server. Or will this just not work when working off a server?

dan selzer, Friday, 25 February 2011 00:06 (fifteen years ago)

I'd hope the auto save thingo would be designed well enough (at file system level) that one corrupted file doesn't kill every revision.

Where do you all stand on the new backwards scrolling mechanic? I think it's brilliant.

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 25 February 2011 00:18 (fifteen years ago)

so I had to restore my iPhone and iPad and redownload a bunch of apps, and it charged me again for a bunch of them. it ended up being like $100+ since I redownloaded both 1password and Logmein to both devices plus a bunch of other apps, so I'm obviously going to have to contest the charges with Apple. has anyone ever had to deal with this?

The Land Berore Time (jamescobo), Friday, 25 February 2011 01:38 (fifteen years ago)

Depending on the pricing, thunderbolt portable HDs could be a huge fucking deal for me. I was on a shoot the other day that had hours of downtime because we were using a USB HD.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, 25 February 2011 01:55 (fifteen years ago)

At least use FW, man!

mh, Friday, 25 February 2011 03:29 (fifteen years ago)

I know, right? No one had the right cables (I was not in charge here), and the eSata drive wouldn't work for whatever reason.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, 25 February 2011 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

I had the same thing happen with apps on my phone last year when I had to do a restore, but since I only paid for 2 apps it wasn't much money, and I didn't bother contesting it. But yeah, it can happen

akm, Friday, 25 February 2011 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

That's pretty bad. Why has a bigger deal not been made of it?

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 25 February 2011 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

(in the press, I mean)

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 25 February 2011 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

Because it can't happen. If you use the same account to repurchase the apps you won't be charged. (it says you will purchase it again, but you don't get charged).

The only way you'd actually get charged again would be by using a different iTunes account second time round.

stet, Saturday, 26 February 2011 14:34 (fifteen years ago)

that isn't true, I was charged twice. but, they might have fixed this since.

akm, Saturday, 26 February 2011 17:07 (fifteen years ago)

It's been like this since app store launched. Did you use two different country stores? Compare the email receipts for both, if the email addresses and stores match then you've gotta big story.

stet, Saturday, 26 February 2011 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

(also getting the cash back if it's the same a/c should be pretty straightforward -- click the "report a problem" link in the receipt and give them both order numbers (in the email subject line). Had to do the begging act that way with a film I deleted and they sorted it in a day, even though you're not allowed redl films/music)

stet, Saturday, 26 February 2011 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

You're not allowed to redownload films/music that you've already paid for? Really? For god's sake why?

egregious fannydangling (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 26 February 2011 20:44 (fifteen years ago)

US store, same account I've been using for years, and I still have the original iTunes receipts for most of them. all of the ones which I don't have receipts for show purchase dates from hell of earlier like this:

http://i.imgur.com/XIsYT.png

(the second bill for this came on 2/19)

the day it happened, I emailed Apple with all of this (the only contact option they offer) along w/ receipt dates, order numbers, everything; I got a confirmation email that they had received it and that I should expect a response within 24 hours but haven't heard anything else. obviously these things can take time and the weekend and God and The Bible and so on, but this is still kind of worrying since I've been redownloading apps since forever and never had this happen before.

The Land Berore Time (jamescobo), Saturday, 26 February 2011 21:44 (fifteen years ago)


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