DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

Delingpole is pestilence

In fairness, "people are nasty twats on the internet" is both non-revelatory and true.

Sad Delingpole will never get over lack of admission to Bullingdon Club.

We need a Delingpole ridicule thread really. His music reviews alone are solid gold.

That Telegraph piece is amazing. Nothing like someone throwing their toys out of the pram to complain about people "throwing their toys out of the pram".

"At least with the "Have your say" section, the non-loony-left get a right to represent their fair-minded and rational views"

Moir wrote a piece that asked tough but pertinent questions about a gay culture that may have contributed to Stephen Gately's death...But why are bullying and death threats now considered a socially acceptable way to express disagreement with someone in a public forum?

I'm a right winger - in that I voted Tory and hold a majority of right wing views - but even I cracked a smile seeing you being made a fool of on the 10 o'clock show.

And yet here I see you brush off the criticism with a comment that implies you're not wrong at all - people just dislike you because of your political ideologies. You've managed to genuinely wind me up a bit with this attitude, and whereas before I cracked a smile, next time you make a tit of yourself I'll probably be laughing about it on Twitter. Which in turn will highlight your arrogance to others. And so the cycle of hate continues... IMO, completely of your own making.

So Milo, is it at all possible that people just don't particularly like you, regardless of their political persuasion? Have you even considered that? Maybe people just dislike your attitude, or think you write with the arrogance of someone that thinks they're better than most. Just a thought.

^^^ I like this dude.

Good of Milo to raise the tenor of internet discourse and show us the way forward

hideous mob mentality
Lefty bullies
the offence brigade
warmist eco-loons
The growing intolerance of any dissenting opinion - a hallmark of the Left
activist thugs
violent threats and smug jokes
this congealed clump of morons

Milo Yiannopoulos is to technology journalism what Delingpole is to climate research.

i'd like to clobber them both around the head with a stick

^ just kidding
(it wasn't in capital)

i was terribly confused by this bit though:

So while the spectacularly posh Tamsin Omond, against whom I had been pitted, may only have garnered 0.2 per cent of the vote when she stood as an independent candidate for Parliament, she definitely won the Twitter election.

surely this is still consistent with the election results (0.2% of vote vs 0% of vote?)??

Complaining about another commentator's poshness in the TELEGRAPH? No wonder you were confused.

I watched the discussion when it was on television. Tamsin Omond (who seems cool whatever her background) slaughtered him.

The problem with the Delingpole school of climate change scepticism is that "the evidence is inconclusive so I don't see why we should do anything about it" which is a lame argument even without the "and those who disagree are FASCISTS" addendum. If the evidence is inconclusive then there's a responsiblity to prepare for the worst.

I don't know what his posh point was. Posh people can't be left-wing? Twitter should treat all posh people equally regardless of their personality or politics? He's not as posh as he sounds but wishes he was and is bitter about it? I have no idea.

I went and watched the debate on 4OD after reading this and he comes across as a petty, vindictive cunt regardless of his politics. If he honestly believes he's being picked on for his views rather than his snide, aggressive manner then he's deluded. It's the Delingpole problem again: actual cunt or just pretending to be a cunt for pageviews and £££? Not that it makes any practical difference.

If the evidence is inconclusive then there's a responsiblity to prepare for the worst.

Really? Even if it means chewing up resources that could be better spent mitigating what we *know* about? Do you think we should have spent another few £billions on the Millennium Bug, just in case?

If the evidence is inconclusive there's a responsibility to keep gathering and analysing evidence and acting on what we find. If the balance of evidence suggests immediate action is necessary then by all means fuck the sceptics and get on with the job but "preparing for the worst" isn't scientific at all. Even the most ardent climate change (uh what's the opposite of sceptics?) activists disagree on what the worst actually is.

Environmental stewardship is a small-C conservative principle so I have no idea - besides what has to be a cynical connection to vested interests - how yr average Tory could argue against conservation and/or minimizing the impact of our energy needs on an already scarred planet. The reason the forest sale collapsed (and we really need a 'Curses! Foiled Again!' thread at this point) is because the trad Tory base still understands this.

Honestly, I think the 'that isn't conservatism' meme might work on whatever they manage to puke up and call policy next. Besides, if they dismantle the NHS in the way they'd like, we'll have the same problems as America - 65 million people with inadequate medical treatment options and no extra cash to put it right.

if they dismantle the NHS in the way they'd like, we'll have the same problems as America - 65 million people with inadequate medical treatment options and no extra cash to put it right.

Yeah but someone will be making money.

millennium bug barely analogous because it wasn't potentially being made worse all the while no?

xposts

If the evidence is inconclusive there's a responsibility to keep gathering and analysing evidence and acting on what we find. If the balance of evidence suggests immediate action is necessary then by all means fuck the sceptics and get on with the job but "preparing for the worst" isn't scientific at all. Even the most ardent climate change (uh what's the opposite of sceptics?) activists disagree on what the worst actually is.

Yeah I'd agree with this, but that isn't what the Delingpoles of this world are arguing.

Barely analogous, agreed - point is preparing for the worst = keep throwing scarce resources at something. In the case of climate change I think "the worst" is something close to "we're all fucked and it's too late" so I dunno how we prepare for that.

I'm all for working to reduce the effects of climate change and preparing for what might come, I just think it needs to be more balanced and nuanced than taking a worst case scenario and throwing money at it.

xpost well there was some pointless typing :)

iirc there are some things the deniers don't deny, like the badness of burning rainforests...?

I think "the worst" is something close to "we're all fucked and it's too late" so I dunno how we prepare for that.

a big party !

In the case of climate change I think "the worst" is something close to "we're all fucked and it's too late" so I dunno how we prepare for that.

privatise the climate?

Can I buy a nice warm bit?

They'll put a fence round the nice bits and you'll have to pay to use them

this already happens i think

Words fail me

So yeah, after years of 'IMMIGRANTS MUST LEARN ENGLISH' and just a couple of weeks after Cameron's "oh hey Muslims you must adapt to our way of life" they're cutting their English lessons. FFS.

jesus christ the comments. yeah i know but seriously those people need punches in heads.

Punching them in the head = effectively no real injury; as you need a BRAIN to damage.

evening standard, what do you expect

they probably paid £100 for elbow tickets

There are plenty of other ways to learn the language. Websites, DVDs, free podcasts, etc.

- Eastender, London, 22/02/2011 15:58

i learned a lot from studying etc

etc.

sorry.

if you had listened to the free podcast you would have learnt about full stops.

the timing of Cameron's middle-east arms trade mission is just incredible. i'm amazed he didn't cancel it.

I'm hearing that he's continuing on to New Zealand with a plane full of tilers and roofers.

He just hoped no one would notice and everyone would think it was a "hey well done you guys!" democracy tour. The Daily Mail of all publications absolutely laid into him yesterday. It's not quite Blair bro-ing down with Gaddafi but it looks appallingly judged nonetheless.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/02/22/article-0-0D4F66DE000005DC-201_468x297.jpg

So I'll put you down for how many water cannons?

too much to hope somebody Sadat's him while he's there

I don't like the man and think he is toxic, but wishing for notional assassins is NAGL.

YMMV

might wanna get that cunt from the Telegraph to write a think-piece about this tho

The Daily Mail of all publications absolutely laid into him yesterday

daily mail commentariat tearing into him too

i read SAGAT and thought a tiger uppercut is highly acceptable and is a VGL
http://www.street.fighter.free.fr/sagat/tigeruppercut_b.jpg

i thought it was a sadat x references and yeah that punk can jump up to get beat down

Speaking in Kuwait, which is marking the 20th anniversary of the expulsion of Saddam Hussein's forces, Cameron said: "The idea that we should expect small and democratic countries like Kuwait to be able to manufacture all their means of defence seems to me completely at odds with reality."

Presumably he does know Kuwait is a dictatorship, too, doesn't he? It's got a National Assembly, but the prime minister is appointed by the emir, and all the assembly can do is ask awkward qustions. And political parties are illegal. No more democratic than Bahrain, really. But we've now banned arms sales there.

Obama's attitude of 'stfu and keep out of the way' is looking wiser and wiser.