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Conservatives revile Lyndon Baines Johnson, the 36th president, for his massive expansion of federal power and the welfare state. But he deserves credit in my book for two important accomplishments of his five years in office. After becoming president when John F. Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963, Johnson used his considerable influence with his former colleagues in the U.S. Senate (he had been majority leader before Kennedy tapped him for vice president) to secure passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. That law transformed the country, largely bringing to an end nearly 200 years of state-supported discrimination on the basis race. Without Johnson’s support — a former opponent of civil-rights laws — the bill would never have passed in its current form and the nation might have endured decades more struggle to realize the principle that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights.

i wonder if people like this even realize in their hearts what side of the issue they'd be on if it were 60 years ago

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 04:56 (fifteen years ago)

this guy doesn't beat around the bush:

No genuine conservative should have a good word for LBJ on the subject of civil rights. The Editors of NR resisted the civil rights movement root and branch from its very beginning, and they were right to do so on conservative principles. Anyone who knows the history of American conservatism knows that absolutely none of the actions taken by the federal government to end segregationist practices can be justified on grounds that are either conservative or constitutional. The 1964 Civil Rights Act was supported by Republicans because most Republicans prominent in American public life at that time were in no meaningful sense conservatives. Real conservatives such as Barry Goldwater voted no. There are in fact no properly conservative principles that allow government action to change the way of life of the white Southern population, nor to improve the condition of blacks.

communist kickball (m coleman), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 05:41 (fifteen years ago)

the old-school NR opposition to civil rights and affection for Catholic fascism is fairly well known now, but i think the magazine's enthusiastic support of the failed far-right coup against De Gaulle remains underrated in that crazy/repugnant sweepstakes

Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 07:53 (fifteen years ago)

they did like punk, though:

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/merce011/mercertaylor/pistol-whipped.pdf

Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 07:56 (fifteen years ago)

-- And no, there is no end of discrimination in the U.S. In fact we have a new Jim Crow with open discrimination against whites and men.

-- First, I agree that LBJ deserves credit for civil rights legislation. However, this legislation lead to overt government sponsored discrimination against whites and men.

-- It seems that the Civil Rights Act simply changed the face of state-supported discrimination of a pale variety to state-supported discrimination of a multicolored variety. Strangely, the Jews and Asians are excluded from this new discrimination.

WHEN WILL WHITE MEN EVER GET AN EVEN BREAK IN THIS COUNTRY?????????

I do love that last commenter's implicit contention that Jews aren't "white."

All you have to do is combine 1 to 7 with (a) to (d) and you should ha (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 11:34 (fifteen years ago)

However, this legislation lead to overt government sponsored discrimination against whites and men.

No surprise if you look at who makes up the government to begin with.

bnw, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 14:59 (fifteen years ago)

Phil, it was definitely a *thing* with Jewish people I've known to assert that Semitic peoples aren't 'white' per se - it's a wonderful get-out clause for late-'80s white guilt sufferers with that option, but a) holds water better if you're Sephardic and b) most of the people who I knew doing it were Ashkenazi.

anna sui generis (suzy), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

I do love that last commenter's implicit contention that Jews aren't "white."

The Irish weren't "white" until fairly recently, either.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 18:13 (fifteen years ago)

had to wash all the peat off first

ullr saves (gbx), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 22:23 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/260484/when-life-good-jay-nordlinger

To be in the presence of even one of those intellectual giants is humbling. To be in the presence of both simultaneously was like watching the Sistine Chapel being painted.

Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

Only he would think it was a good idea to be standing directly under the dribblings.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 21:09 (fifteen years ago)

Hey, nobody ever gets seasick on an NR cruise. Right, cruisers?

goole, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 22:33 (fifteen years ago)

(crosspost)

Ask and ye shall receive: ILX alum Pareene posts a rundown of the NRO's reactions to the DOMA change

http://www.salon.com/news/gay_marriage/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2011/02/23/corner_doma_response

Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 23:13 (fifteen years ago)

ctrl+f for gay: 0 results

brigitte beardo (donna rouge), Friday, 25 February 2011 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

haha okay maybe that dude has a point

you really can't expect to win a lawsuit against someone because they rudely told you to turn off your cell phone

also, they were at a Tyler Perry movie, their ability to judge tone was already suspect

DJP, Friday, 25 February 2011 21:31 (fifteen years ago)

i dont "get" that spakovsky piece, what is he even complaining about

max, Friday, 25 February 2011 21:33 (fifteen years ago)

the same thing Hans A Von Spakovsky always complains about

goole, Friday, 25 February 2011 21:43 (fifteen years ago)

I don't think gloating and complaining are really the same thing

DJP, Friday, 25 February 2011 21:47 (fifteen years ago)

this is like gall.txt

Most importantly, teachers have important non-financial compensation — working with children in a universally admired profession, etc.

"Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 15:19 (fifteen years ago)

Plus they get gifts at the end of the year, a sign of real respect.

Euler, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

meanwhile, J. No is still a prissy creep

Here is a messy subject: the sheer, physical dirtiness of the Left. The detritus of the Left. I grew up with it, in Ann Arbor: the placards, the sleeping bags, the leaflets, the graffiti, the tent cities, the associated garbage. We see the same thing in lovely Madison now. These people expect other people to clean up after them: the “working people” they claim to love and represent.

Some people snickered at the “tea partiers,” who were proud of leaving their rallying sites cleaner than they found them. Well, they should have been proud, those tea partiers.

Of course, it remains true that the hippie-lefty girls were some of the prettiest around. They hadn’t bathed or brushed their teeth in days. They wore filthy and torn T-shirts and jeans. Their hair was greasy. But they were, you know, 20, and they were beautiful . . .

"Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

Truly the sign of a man disappointed by life.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 15:23 (fifteen years ago)

ere is a messy subject: the sheer, physical dirtiness of the Left poor. The detritus of the Left poor. I grew up with it, in Ann Arbor: the placards, the sleeping bags, the leaflets, the graffiti, the tent cities, the associated garbage. We see the same thing in lovely Madison now. These people expect other people to clean up after them: the “working people” they claim to love and represent.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/260957/god-save-king-and-motion-picture-storytelling-mark-steyn

lol

"Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:04 (fifteen years ago)

man they love that dude over there

goole, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

Most importantly, teachers have important non-financial compensation — working with children in a universally admired profession, etc.

is this part of their reasoning about the joys of unpaid motherhood too?

j., Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:25 (fifteen years ago)

Nordlinger's been awesome the last week:

On Michelle’s Jetting, Etc.

March 1, 2011 10:34 A.M.
By Jay Nordlinger

In Impromptus today, I talk a little about presidents’ vacations — and first ladies’ vacations. Poor Bill Clinton: When he was running for reelection, he was forced to vacation in Wyoming. Before that, it had been the Vineyard. After that, it would be the Vineyard again. Oh, what people have to put up with for the sake of politics!

After writing my column, I had a memory of Dick Cheney. He arrives in Davos, that perfect specimen of Alpine splendor. And he says, “Almost as nice as my valley in Wyoming.” He goes there even when he’s not running. Strange people, Republicans.

Remember this: If you’re a liberal Democratic first lady, you can go to Vail, the Vineyard, the Costa del Sol. If you’re a Republican first lady — a ranch in sweltering Texas is for you, bucko. (I realize a first lady is not really a “bucko.”) (I also realize that Kennebunkport is pretty nice in the summer.) (No, I will not talk about cloth coats.)

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 March 2011 16:47 (fifteen years ago)

man, the myth of W.'s "crawford ranch."

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 21:49 (fifteen years ago)

the hair splitting is so fine that when Clinton goes to Wyoming it doesn't even count.

bnw, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 22:52 (fifteen years ago)

If you’re a liberal Democratic first lady, you can go to Vail, the Vineyard, the Costa del Sol.

Michelle O., rootless cosmopolitan

brownie, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 23:49 (fifteen years ago)

quick, when was the last time anybody thought about sirhan sirhan?

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/261094/sirhans-parole-victor-davis-hanson

goole, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 19:55 (fifteen years ago)

while we're at it, this kurtz dude is a trip

http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Where-s-Waldo-Reading-Alinsky

During campaign 2008, the "leaders" of Obama’s original community group regaled the press with tales of Obama’s modesty. He sat in the back of the room, while they did the talking. In fact, their actions were elaborately scripted and choreographed by Obama, the group’s real leader. An Alinskyite organizer is supposed to look as if he’s beyond ideology, stirring up the group to action only when reacting to some apparent slight by the powers that be. (In fact, organizers have elaborate techniques for provoking potential targets into apparent offenses against the group.)

goole, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 19:59 (fifteen years ago)

talk about owned

Not long ago, I was in Norway, talking with some politicos — right of center. (Well, in Norway, you could be a socialist, and still be right of center. I mean “right of center” even in American terms.) I said, “Obama is the perfect American president for the Norwegian political culture, isn’t he? I mean, no wonder they gave him the Nobel prize. He’s left-wing, he apologizes for America, he wants a more Norwegian-like state, he’s pro-abortion, he’s anti-Israel, he venerates the U.N. — he’s even black. He’s perfect.”

One of the Norwegians said, “No, he could be gay. Then he’d be perfect.” I said, “I stand corrected, my friend.”

"Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Thursday, 3 March 2011 07:48 (fifteen years ago)

"he's even black"

these guys are such lame choads.

I'd rather climb into the saddle of my Ford Mustang and sink spurs (stevie), Thursday, 3 March 2011 08:20 (fifteen years ago)

The Hug Shot
March 3, 2011 5:45 A.M.
By John J. Miller

President Obama and Jeb Bush will share the stage of a Miami high school to tout education reform tomorrow. If I were advising Obama, I’d urge him to achieve a single objective: hug Bush. Two years ago, the Obama Embrace served as a Crist of Death–i.e., it imperiled the political future of Charlie Crist, Bush’s successor as governor of Florida. Obama certainly didn’t mean the hurt Crist. Who doubts that he wouldn’t rather deal with a Sen. Crist than a Sen. Rubio? Yet his hug worked like a reverse Midas Touch on the onetime Republican and created an opening for Rubio’s conservative insurgency.

According to Chris Good of the Atlantic, it wasn’t even much of a hug:

But let’s go to the tape, and realize something: Crist didn’t actually hug Obama, so much as Obama hugged him. Crist put himself in the position, but he was not the agent of this embrace. He basically just stood there.

So apparently it was like date rape.

I don’t think Jeb Bush is going to run for president in 2012. But I also think he’d be a stronger candidate than many Republicans assume. Don’t take it from me–take it from Democrats: In a recent National Journal “insider’s poll,” Democrats rank Bush as the GOP’s third most formidable potential presidential nominee (after Mitt Romney and Mitch Daniels). A hug shot with Obama would make it more difficult for him to win the GOP nomination. The image would not go away, either. It probably would hurt in 2016 too.

gravity tractor VS asteroid B612 (m coleman), Thursday, 3 March 2011 11:28 (fifteen years ago)

you've come a long way, baby?

http://mikemillsweb.com/images/home/richard-nixon-sammy-davis-jr.jpg

gravity tractor VS asteroid B612 (m coleman), Thursday, 3 March 2011 11:31 (fifteen years ago)

straight up: the corner = refuge for racist a-holes

gravity tractor VS asteroid B612 (m coleman), Thursday, 3 March 2011 11:32 (fifteen years ago)

i am not usually as gung-ho on some framing/semantics stuff as i should be but

he’s pro-abortion

is so hilarious in this context. like really, how does one assert one's celebratory, pro-abortion stance. joyously impregnating interns?

your LiveJournal experience (schlump), Thursday, 3 March 2011 13:06 (fifteen years ago)

classy and sensual

Couldn't agree with you more about the food and women.

This white American dude has dated many Indian women and has very fond memories. Not only can Indian women be among the most stunning in the world, but as a group I consider them classy, intellectual, well mannered, intellectually curious, charming, sensual, and proudly feminine. And I now make a mean chicken curry I would add.

Gents, don't believe me about their looks? Go on Facebook and search a random Indian surname, such as "Malhotra".

"Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Friday, 4 March 2011 00:52 (fifteen years ago)

Link???

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 March 2011 01:00 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/261255/subcontinental-feeling-jay-nordlinger

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 4 March 2011 01:01 (fifteen years ago)

"I do. The advent of Indians in America is a wonderful thing. Forget the engineering, think of the food, the girls . . ."

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 4 March 2011 01:01 (fifteen years ago)

he needs to tour east asia with momus

bnw, Friday, 4 March 2011 01:09 (fifteen years ago)

to be fair, Indian food IS delicious

"Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Friday, 4 March 2011 01:32 (fifteen years ago)

So apparently it was like date rape.

"We have you surrounded...Drop the dog whistle and put your hands up!"

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 4 March 2011 02:40 (fifteen years ago)

Peter Kirsanow is just asking question here

Random observation: Setting aside for a moment the standard arguments (and the merits thereof) in the pro-choice/pro-life debate, a fact remains: In black neighborhoods, liberal-leaning groups advertise and facilitate a procedure that results in the birth of fewer black babies; conservative groups advertise and facilitate a procedure that results in the birth of more black babies.

The observation is simply that: not an analysis, conclusion, or judgment. Those are left to the solons in the mainstream media. I suspect, however, that the observation will somehow be confirmation of conservative bigotry.

"Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Friday, 4 March 2011 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

conservative groups advertise and facilitate a procedure that results in the birth of more black babies.

What procedure is that? Surely not sex?

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Friday, 4 March 2011 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

dunno if i'd characterize the lack of access to abortion as a "procedure"

goole, Friday, 4 March 2011 21:05 (fifteen years ago)


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