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I think they prefer the term "invested," Ned.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 10 November 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

No doubt.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 November 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

Saw the trailer on the big screen before Borat the other night, and it got me really quite excited.

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Friday, 10 November 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

I think this will be the best non-Connery Bond movie, but maybe the hype is warping my mind.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 10 November 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve

what did these guys usually do? coastal defense, or did they ship out with the regulars?

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 10 November 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Variety review from Todd McCarthy

and here's where the rest of the review will be

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 10 November 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

but final stretch contains two indelible interludes crucial to defining this new incarnation of Bond. Constrained nude to a bottomed-out chair, Bond is tortured by Le Chiffre who repeatedly launches a hard-tipped rope upon his nemesis' most sensitive area,

hey, whaddayaknow, the sequence IS in the flick.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 10 November 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

The things you can get away with when you've got a PG-13.

― The Dusty Baker Selection (Charles McCain), Friday, 10 November 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

perhaps that explains why we don't hear about Bond's illegitimate children?

― latebloomer and his 'Cyborg Companion', Hacker (latebloomer), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

(re: ball-lashing)

― latebloomer and his 'Cyborg Companion', Hacker (latebloomer), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

though i'd love to see a movie where Bond confronts a supervillain who *spoiler*turns out to be his bastard son!*end spoiler*

it could be called The Bastard Who Hated Me

― latebloomer and his 'Cyborg Companion', Hacker (latebloomer), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

i just set myself up for some austin powers jokes, didn't i *shoots self*

― latebloomer and his 'Cyborg Companion', Hacker (latebloomer), Friday, 10 November 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

That's actually a really good idea. Employees of United Artists who may be reading: Steal Latebloomer's idea.

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Saturday, 11 November 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

anybody seen this yet?

RT is now up to 96% for 119 reviews, and the Onion liked it.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 17 November 2006 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

Craig is still ugly.

― I.M. From Hollywood (i_m_from_hollywood), Friday, 17 November 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

thank you for your thought-out contribution

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 17 November 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

I might actually have to see it given the reception. ARMOND WHITE liked it.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 November 2006 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

Bond film smashes b.o. record in Britain!

"stinks" that bad, eh?

(i make pun!)

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 17 November 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

not that I was planning on seeing this anyway but Paul Haggis is involved = fuck that

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 November 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'll go to this tonight. TS: seeing it here (horrible shitty sound system but only 10 blocks away) vs. seeing it in Tupelo (moderately crappy sound system, 35 miles away, + sushi).

― Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Friday, 17 November 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

metacritic >>>> rottentomatoes

― milo z (mlp), Friday, 17 November 2006 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

dude, it only takes 30 minutes to drive that far, don't be a pussy

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 17 November 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

haha shakey you really think paul haggis injected some simplistic urban malaise subtext into this?

― gear (gear), Friday, 17 November 2006 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

haha no but it would be kinda funny if he did! he's just got such a horrible track record I don't want to be anywhere near anything he's had a hand in.

but I've never really "gotten" the cult of Bond anyway, so no big loss.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 November 2006 23:27 (nineteen years ago)

well i mean considering a good 2/3rds of bond films are mediocre at best it's understandable and i only saw the last three brosnan films by complete accident (i personally don't know why brosnan is regarded as this awesome bond, i guess he's just generic enough not to offend any dumbass fanboys?). this one looks and sounds a lot better than his work, at least.

― gear (gear), Friday, 17 November 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

Metacritic has this at 80% for 34 reviews, so there ya go.

Also, Haggis was only _one_ of the scriptwriters assoc. w/ the script, but not _the_.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 17 November 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'm interested in seeing this. Anything that reminds me of the Timothy Dalton glory days has gotta be good.

― adam (adam), Friday, 17 November 2006 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

oh FFS. according to IMDB, they don't play baccarat in this flick. they play fucking TEXAS HOLD-EM.

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 18 November 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://i18.ebayimg.com/03/i/06/86/24/18_1_b.JPG

― gear (gear), Saturday, 18 November 2006 01:03 (nineteen years ago)

It's not the canon-breaking that i disagree with, it's that they replaced one of the trademarks(one which exemplifies Bond's usual exotic, upper-class, european shenanigans) with such a bullshit ordinary american pop trend. It's like setting a climatic scene at a nascar race.

Of course, one could hold that they did this 23 years ago and it worked then, in Never Say Never Again(with the vid games).

― kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 18 November 2006 01:11 (nineteen years ago)

I imagine it was basically a utilitarian decision to heighten the drama for an audience of which a far larger porportion will have a basic understanding of Texas Hold Em than the now rather obscure Baccarat. I'm fine with that; Bond is a profoundly populist franchise after all.

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Saturday, 18 November 2006 02:15 (nineteen years ago)

you're forgetting one thing: 9/11

― dutch girls must be punished for having big boobs (kenan), Saturday, 18 November 2006 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

which is to say: chap OTM. They updated the plot to now, and nobody plays freaking Bacarrat, assuming they ever did.

― dutch girls must be punished for having big boobs (kenan), Saturday, 18 November 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

And (I have not seen the movie yet) this is supposed to be a NEW BOND, released from the trappings of finery and endless vapid pussy, and allowed to be buff, brooding, and vicious. I approve.

― dutch girls must be punished for having big boobs (kenan), Saturday, 18 November 2006 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

"Ah Mr. Bond, we meet at last. Both of our fates will be decided over the course of this single game of bagatelle. Would you care for a mead, shaken, not stirred?"

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Saturday, 18 November 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

Exactly. It's a good decision to change to game to something that's actually played in casinos now. The early Bond stuff was written in a time and culture that might have actually had reverence for games and affectations that were limited to the elite and the royal. The kind of thing closes out of town now.

― dutch girls must be punished for having big boobs (kenan), Saturday, 18 November 2006 02:38 (nineteen years ago)

bond should play the slots

― gear (gear), Saturday, 18 November 2006 02:39 (nineteen years ago)

He should try to find the loosest in town.

― dutch girls must be punished for having big boobs (kenan), Saturday, 18 November 2006 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

As a caveat I will say that I think that Bond should retain some of its nostalgia for the never-was world of men being men and overblown casino glamour and Britain being important all that, but having a card game that no one fucking understands anymore as a central plot point would just be stupid.

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Saturday, 18 November 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

I've seen plenty of movies with games or sporting events that I didn't understand at all, but I still got the point the scene was making. I'm sticking with my argument about how an "upper class" Bond doesn't play like it once did. Most of the audience doesn't know the intricacies of Texas Hold 'Em, either, I bet.

― dutch girls must be punished for having big boobs (kenan), Saturday, 18 November 2006 02:57 (nineteen years ago)

Fair point, but eh, Bond has always occupied a semi-fictional class (probably less fictional in the sixties than now, but still). Part of what makes a Bond film a Bond film is the absurdness of the world he inhabits - if you want realistic espionage stories go to Le Carre. My favourite Bonds do tend to be the ones that at least allude to the real world, though.

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Saturday, 18 November 2006 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really know what point I'm arguing any more, probably time for bed.

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Saturday, 18 November 2006 03:09 (nineteen years ago)

I hate most Bond movies. I like Connery, because I can see that it's kind-of of its time, but other than that... Bond movies really feel OUT of their time. They feel dated and geeky and sexist and all-around awful, even for the years in which they were made. Especially Roger Moore.

I welcome a Bond movie that I might be able to watch and not cringe.

― dutch girls must be punished for having big boobs (kenan), Saturday, 18 November 2006 03:11 (nineteen years ago)

Did anyone EVER believe that Roger Moore could kick anyone's ass? Or had the franchise by that point totally given itself over to the idea that all 007 had to be was good-looking, no matter how mannerless and spindly?

― dutch girls must be punished for having big boobs (kenan), Saturday, 18 November 2006 03:15 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, come on. Roger Moore can take a punch from Jaws, much less many. These are some of the silliest movies EVER.

― dutch girls must be punished for having big boobs (kenan), Saturday, 18 November 2006 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, it is an utterly and inherently ridiculous series of films. I think that many (including myself) have a degree of uncritical love for them instilled in childhood. The strange alchemy of a bloke in a tux leaping off something while that theme tune plays never fails to stir something in me.

I was never that fond of Moore, though.

― chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Saturday, 18 November 2006 03:24 (nineteen years ago)

I have a weird affection, too.

― dutch girls must be punished for having big boobs (kenan), Saturday, 18 November 2006 03:31 (nineteen years ago)

i liked this one ok. defintely better than the last few Brosnan flicks (i liked Goldeneye)!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 18 November 2006 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

Quite a good movie, to be honest. And Daniel Craig's Bond is a badass man...even more so than Craig in Layer Cake. Well...maybe not yet. But his Bond is pretty damn cool.

And all the shots of Lake Cuomo were amazing.

― B.L.A.M. (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Saturday, 18 November 2006 06:27 (nineteen years ago)

Just got back from seeing it at Grauman's Chinese with a full theater... Details to follow

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 18 November 2006 07:06 (nineteen years ago)

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