defend the indefensible: new jersey

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The reception was... The Tides Estate? I think that's what it's called? In someplace similarly named to North Caledon? PHAT.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

so many interesting-looking mexican restaurants/shops around french st in new brunswick.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

I used to pretty much eat/shop for groceries exclusively on French when I was at Rutgers. But this was back in the early 90's so it's probably changed a bit since? Haven't been back to NB in about 6 years or so. There was a place on French that made amazing enchiladas con mole Oaxaqueno.

Grease Trucks! Easton Ave. had/has a Mexican place that made great deep fried tacos. Though I wouldn't consider eating one of those nowadays.

Planet X still there? Spike, the owner, was a good guy.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Grease Trucks...two words I haven't heard in some time..

g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

also a ton of south indian restaurants as you come up 27 from princeton. so much stuff, so little time.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, my new favorite place is this crazy all-you-can-eat Japanese seafood restaurant on route 10, by the pelican ski shop. It's HUGE!

g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Ridgewood is like...a fake town, the kind you put under the Christmas tree. I kind of hate it, even though I've shopped at the Williams-Sonoma and the cheesy bead store there and the British imports shop near the train. There's no poverty, no undesirables, no unpleasant sights or cosmetically displeasing facades, and the whole display of prosperity makes me nervous.

PLUS I know that Rwood residents start claiming curb space for the 4th of July parade a WHOLE DAY before the event, and the sight of well fed, well kept, perfectly capable people jockeying to set up their folding chairs a little closer than their neighbors...the poverty of spirit just brings me down.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you said there was no poverty? :)

g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Head to Paterson for the poverty!

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

It's not really a town kind of state, is it? It helps to know people. There are better ones I haven't been to, I'm sure, but I'll point out postage-stamp, perhaps historicized Millburn.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

North Haledon is only about a mile long, isn't it?

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

I like driving through the whole Pompton Lakes and points north sort of area. The hills are pretty and worn and covered with greyish purple-ish foliage and appear in my mind to always be slightly misty, even along the highways. What are the towns up there like? I think I was born in Pequannock, if that's even the right spelling.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 28 August 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

There are about 8 gazillion towns in New Jersey. The problem is no city of note - Hoboken? New Brunswick? Trenton? - NYC and Philly suck the air out of the place. NJ diners / pizza / bagels are key, though.

I grew up in Red Bank/Long Branch, and there's not enough Monmouth County love on this thread - Jack's Music Shop, Brighton Bar, Monster Magnet, Kevin Smith, etc.

I also lived for years in the Pine Barrens area - scary fucking place. One town I lived in had no garbage pickup and no mail delivery.

A funny thing about NJ is that the border of South Jersey is relative to where you live. If you live in Jersey City, anything below Perth Amboy is South Jersey. If you live in Monmouth County, South Jersey is anything below Toms River. If you live in Cape May, anything below the Mullica River is South Jersey.

Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

so you make it sound like nobody wants to admit they live in south jersey. Dammit I'm south jersey and proud! From the GOOD side of Rt 206!

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Alright, so for ALL the Rutgers alumni out there, which was YOUR grease truck? I must say, I was a RUHungry loyalist.

Damnit, a grease truck gyro and a Snapple sounds AWESOME. No grease trucks in LA.

Esquire, Bitch. (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

I liked the falafel truck run by the Middle Eastern couple. Amazing. Mint tea and fresh baklava before an exam and falafel / fries after the bars. Life during RU was pretty great.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

i stayed here for a week in 1974, good times (where is the love for Wildwood?)

http://www.roadsidepeek.com/rpeekeast/moteleast/wildwoodmotel/edenrocwildnj.jpg

timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yay Wildwood! Remember the big King Kong ride out on the pier? I was always afraid it would fling riders out into the ocean.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

i'm sort of recalling that, i remember it was huge. god that boardwalk is endless. i mostly remember this creepy mechanical fortune teller that my sibs were obsessed with.

timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

CRAZY hijinks at Wildwood motels the summer ('87) after HS graduation.
Kids today don't even know...

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:28 (nineteen years ago)

i stayed here for a week in 1974, good times (where is the love for Wildwood?)

chrisquartztelecom and i stayed at the starlux a few new yearses ago:

http://www.jrn.columbia.edu/studentwork/cns/2002-06-10/images/wildwoodweb.jpg

it was the only wildwood hotel that was actually operating in the winter season. eerie, but in a really cool way. the boardwalk was DEAD.

el borracho (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:30 (nineteen years ago)

GLENN MERCER AND FRIENDS ARE PERFORMING AT MAXWELS WED SEPT. 6TH. MORE INFO SOON!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:42 (nineteen years ago)

Jeez, Dan!

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:50 (nineteen years ago)

see what happens when i leave the east coast?

el borracho (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 03:59 (nineteen years ago)

i've only been to wildwood once, a really long time ago, and the only thing i remember about it was that the beach was practically impenetrable because of the influx of post-rainstorm jellyfish.

this is the second summer running that i haven't made it out to the boardwalk (a term which usually signifies seaside heights, for me - trashcan that it is, i still have a lot of affection for it)

joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

wow, this thread is really stirring up teh memories. anyone remember the amusement park at Lake Hopatcong ? (Jersey Indian names are HI-larious)It closed in 1983, my nyc grade school loved it, probably because it was on its last legs in the 70s and was dirt cheap. it was fun! I haven't thought about this in ages, thanx for allowing me to recover some good memories from an often troubled childhood.

http://www.landingnewjersey.com/bertrand.htm

timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 05:11 (nineteen years ago)

People who didn't grow up in Jersey don't realize that Todd Solondz's Happiness is a documentary.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

Came across this on a blog, somewhat accurate:

These guys remind me of fairly typical Jersey white kids: argumentative, profanity-loving, race-conscious, with an almost hyperactive respect for psychotic violence.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

Everybody knows the Feelies are one of my favorite bands and everyone knows that various people involved in the band still occasionally perform at Maxwell's in Hoboken, because the Feelies were one of the great NJ bands ever, but I always found out too late and never made it. Well not this time.

This wednesday, Glenn Mercer, co-lead guitarist/singer/songwriter of the Feelies will be performing a solo set with Wild Carnation opening up. Wild Carnation features Brenda Sauter, who was the bass player for the Feelies in the 80s as well as Speed the Plough and the beautiful and amazing Trypes. Meanwhile, Glenn is backed by a few of the Feelies original percussionists, Vinny DeNunzio and Dave Weckerman, the later we love for his early 80s DIY single Shore Leave and his Feelies spin-off Yung Wu.

It's hard to sum up their history...the Feelies began in the early/mid 70s in New Jersey with a more angsty, more aggressive Modern Lovers sound. They played CBGB's with all the NYC punk greats and over the years refined and re-defined their sound, so by the time their first record, Crazy Rhythms, was released in 1980, they were able to present something unique. The closest comparison might be the Talking Heads, but the Feelies focused more on rhythm and a Velvet Underground meets Krautrock experimentation. Through the 80s, the Feelies would release 3 more albums, sometimes veering towards a more subtle, folksy, yet no less angsty sound that was even more beautiful. In the meantime, there were countless line-up changes, spin-off bands, pseudonym bands, all quite wonderful.

Here's a clip of the Feelies performing Crazy Rhythms at CBs in the 70s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ammeQSyUF00

Here they are 10 or so years later on David Letterman:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vddceSol5k

Here's a great Feelies website:
http://www.geocities.com/thefeeliesweb/

Glenn's myspace page for his new solo project:
http://www.myspace.com/glennmercer

and the Wild Carnation page:
http://www.myspace.com/wildcarnation

You can hear Glenn's great new songs at his myspace page, and hear what has always been true, that through the years, Glenn's songwriting and playing has consistently been wonderful and consistently been his. You can not mistake these songs for anything other then yet more wonderful stuff from one of the guys behind the Feelies.

The line-up that's playing at Maxwell's wedneday played an outdoor festival in Hoboken a few months ago that's all over youtube and along with the new material they played some Feelies classics and some classics the Feelies have been known to cover, so maybe we'll get some oldies wednesday.

Maxwells is the famous club in Hoboken NJ best known for being where The Boss's "Glory Days" video was shot. It's also been the home to many legendary Feelies and Yo La Tengo shows.

http://www.maxwellsnj.com/
1039 Washington Street
Hoboken NJ
201-653-1703

Wed. 9/6
Glenn Mercer
Wild Carnation

8:30 pm
8$

see you there,

Dan

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 4 September 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

OMG

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

four weeks pass...
edward III is SO right about "where is south jersey?" i mean, i'm originally from around princeton -- which is CENTRAL jersey (or, if we're being generous the northernmost part of south jersey) -- and all the hudson county yobs think that i'm from "south jersey." then again, they also think that morristown and new brunswick are "south jersey" (!)

i have never been to ridgewood, sorry. and i've lived in north jersey for almost 8 years now.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 07:50 (nineteen years ago)

I liked the falafel truck run by the Middle Eastern couple. Amazing. Mint tea and fresh baklava before an exam and falafel / fries after the bars. Life during RU was pretty great.

-- Jay Vee's Return (milkis...), August 29th, 2006.

Hmm, I wonder if you're talking about the (now defunct) Hungry Eye, which was in fact run by a Greek couple, although you could certainly think they were Middle Eastern. I never had baklava or mint tea there, but they generally tended to make special things not on the regular grease truck menu. They also put up literary quotes all over their truck - I think they had been English teachers. Really nice folks - I was sorry to see them go.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

The Short Hills Mall. Went there yesterday on the way to Yom Kippur "festivities". Is it not the most upscale Mall in the country? It has to be up there.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

I've never been there, but its riches are legendary.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Betsy Johnson, Tiffany, Cartier, Dolce + Gabana, Lacoste (I got some new sneakers), Anthropologie, Williams Sonoma, Neiman Marcus/Saks/Macys/Nordstrom, etc.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

The NJ Transit Bus to the Short Hills Mall stopped in front of my college but I never went! I only went to Livingston Mall.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

just got this one,m totally sweet:
http://i2.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/c8/29/3e_2.JPG

autovac (autovac), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

hah on you....

Livingston Mall is 1/1000th a mall as Short Hills, but Livingston Mall is like, where I grew up. I stole all my comic books from Heroes World when my friend Mike worked there, I bought my first CDs at Alwick, when they used to sell boomboxes in the front, and spent many hours in the arcade there playing Star Wars. Their arcade wasn't only closer, but many degrees safer then the one in the Willowbrook Mall. Other fond memories include Bambergers (later Macy's) electronics dept, trying out the Apple Lisa there, and later the Macintosh (drawing a brick wall then spraypainting my name on MacPaint 1.0. And of course, using my red-box to make thousands of illegal telephone calls from a payphone while sitting at a bench there. Those were the days.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Oy malls. The only one I venture into at all regularly is the Newport Mall right here in Jersey City, and that's mainly because it's the closest movie theater (though JC Penney is great if you need something non-descript like a dress belt, socks, boxers, work shirts, etc.)

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

i've only been to short hills once in my life. bridgewater commons, menlo park, and quakerbridge were closer to where i grew up -- i don't think that any of them are quite as upscale as short hills, but they ain't walmart either.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

And of course, using my red-box to make thousands of illegal telephone calls from a payphone while sitting at a bench there.

i'm not from NJ, but i had a red box. ah, the days of Phrack and 2600.

drilled a hole in a quarter in shop class w/ string for use at my local arcade. the weight must have been off because out of 150 machines it only worked on Root Beer Tapper. damn!

chakra khan chakra khan (sanskrit), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm gonna hafta post some pics from my recent visit to The Land of Make-Believe in Hope, NJ. America's scariest theme park.

Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Jersey

mts (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Bridgewater Commons is near where my mom moved when I went off to Oberlin. I came home one summer and nobody would hire me. Not Sam Goody. Not the photo place. Ugh. That was a sad summer. I eventually got a job in Morristown. I'd still go to the mall, I bought Stereolab and Soft Machine CDs at that Sam Goody, once from a girl who actually knew who Stereolab was. Big deal in Bridgewater circa 1994. I would also hang out at the Borders accross the street, read magazines and look at graphic design books. Another lonely NJ summer...My sister later worked at that Borders for a bit.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

I bought my wedding tie at the Nordstrom's in Garden State Plaza. My wife, who is Israeli, lived in Tenafly for a time with her family, and they nicknamed it Garden State Flatza (flatz is Hebrew for fart).

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

My best friend got kicked out of Short Hills so maybe that's why we never went.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

llamasfur, did you spend any time in Sommerville? The mid-century modern antique shops at 1/1000th the price of NYC, and neat-o-rama/twonkyvision or whatever? What a strange scene that was/is. There's less mid-century stuff, but there's a new store there now, AMAZING collection of periodicals, books, sci-fi stuff, subversive stuff, but of course the vinyl is all way over-priced as it always is at those places.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm actually not even from NJ, but my job has taken me all over - Belvidere, Newton, Flemington, Toms River, Morristown, Hackensack, Paterson, Sommerville, etc.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

a list of bands who performed on the Uncle Floyd Show, filmed in my hometown of West Orange:

The Ramones
NRBQ
Bon Jovi
Chubby Checker
Cyndi Lauper
Eddie Money
Blue Öyster Cult
David Johansen (also known as Buster Poindexter)
The Misfits
The Smithereens
Jan & Dean
Agnostic Front
Dramarama
Squeeze
Aztec Two-Step
Thor (the singer/bodybuilder)
TV Toy
WKGB
Humans From Earth
The John Earl Walker Band
Blotto
Gary U.S. Bonds
Rachel Sweet
The Rattlers
The Feelies
Shrapnel
The Bongos
U.S.Ape
Fats Deacon & the Dumbwaiters
R. Stevie Moore
The Buttermilk Mountain Revue,
The Plastics (also known as Plastics)
Zoogz Rift
Crash Course In Science
The Stickmen
Z'ev
Rebecca Williams
The Phones (also known as The Responsible Teenagers)
The Brains
Rupert Holmes
Dave Edmunds
Rick Derringer
The Marshall Tucker Band
Peter Tork and Davy Jones of The Monkees (separately)
Steel Pulse
The Lords of the New Church
Johnny Science
The Dead Boys
Pussy Galore
The Payolas
Joan Armatrading
Tiny Tim
The Fiendz
Noble Gas

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://62.233.33.227/0/05/99/29/fugees.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)


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