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Nordlinger is outraged that unions might deign to resist union-busting

I remember something a friend told me — a friend who, 15 years ago, was fighting for school choice. When the teacher-union lawyers entered the courtroom, “I could practically smell the sulphur coming off them.”

who hates lawyers more i wonder, lefties or wingers?

Nordlinger has been...shrill is the polite word.

:: heart :: this guy:

A Streak of Castroism in Wisconsin
February 18, 2011 9:53 A.M.
By Jay Nordlinger
Someone wrote me that the “public employees” in Wisconsin reminded her of Chávez and his goons in Venezuela. Actually, they remind me of Cuba. There, the dictatorship sends its loyalists to the homes of those suspected of not being loyalists. They scream, beat on things, denounce, and threaten. The idea is, the “disloyal” Cubans are supposed to quake in their homes, and they do. These tactics are called actos de repudio — “acts of repudiation.” They are a mainstay of the regime.

In Wisconsin, the schoolteachers and other “public employee” beauties are going to the homes of Republican lawmakers, screaming, denouncing, etc. The situation has gotten very bad. We know where you live. Yesterday, I had a talk with Sen. Randy Hopper, recorded here. Republican lawmakers have received threats, and credible ones: threats to their physical well-being. They are not disclosing their movements, whether they are sleeping in their own homes. They are working with law enforcement on how best to protect themselves and their families.

I admire these Republicans, for persisting in the face of these threats, for continuing to do the job that the voters elected them to do. It’s not easy. It would be more comfortable to give in — to give in to the screaming and violent minority. And I don’t know about you, but I never want to hear from the Left about “civility” again. Ever.

One more thing: Years ago, I left the Left, after experiencing some of life, after thinking things through. One of the main reasons I left: It was clear that, if things didn’t go their way, they wouldn’t mind violence at all. They may not commit it; but they wouldn’t mind it. There was no respect for process — democratic process. All that mattered was, “My way.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/260122/billy-ray-knows-best-kathryn-jean-lopez

i love it when K-Lo ventures into pop criticism

also i guess he said this on his NRO "radio show" and i refuse to click on it but derbyshire apparently went on a rant about how lara logan was totally asking for it

The comments lately have been A+.

One more thing: Years ago, I left the Left, after experiencing some of life, after thinking things through. One of the main reasons I left: It was clear that, if things didn’t go their way, they wouldn’t mind violence at all. They may not commit it; but they wouldn’t mind it. There was no respect for process — democratic process. All that mattered was, “My way.”

Next level trolling.

Clinton, GHW Bush, and Civil Discourse
February 21, 2011 1:34 P.M.
By Kevin D. Williamson
You have got to be kidding me:

George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton will oversee the National Institute for Civil Discourse in Arizona, sparked by the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. But history shows it faces an uphill battle.

What’s so civil about the red-faced, rage-filled Bill Clinton? The guy tried to blame Oklahoma City on Rush Limbaugh. Using both the bully pulpit and his proxies, he constantly implied that his critics were either racists, sexual deviants, corrupt, or all three. His minions brought us such gems of civil discourse as: “Drag a $100 bill through a trailer park, and you never know what you’ll find.” Clinton had the gall to subsequently tout his own “moral fiber” while denouncing his critics as “sleazy,” telling Peter Jennings: “You never had to live in a time when people you knew and cared about were being indicted, carted off to jail, bankrupted, ruined, because they were Democrats and because they would not lie. So, I think we showed a lot of moral fiber to stand up to that.”

Of course, they were lying. Lying — wagging one’s finger and flat-out lying – also is not traditionally considered part of civil discourse.

That GHW Bush is willing to lend his name and credibility to such an exercise illustrates why the kind of prep-school Republicanism he stands for is dead and unmourned.

I almost posted a comment to that but it feels like sticking your head in a toilet bowl to do so.

i love it when K-Lo ventures into pop criticism

just as well informed & authoritative as her parenting advice

Does she still hate teenage girls as much as she used to?

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/260268/corner-presidents-conservative-defense-lbj-linda-chavez

jesus, the comments

jesus, the comments

I'm almost ready to start a thread based on these.

Conservatives revile Lyndon Baines Johnson, the 36th president, for his massive expansion of federal power and the welfare state. But he deserves credit in my book for two important accomplishments of his five years in office. After becoming president when John F. Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963, Johnson used his considerable influence with his former colleagues in the U.S. Senate (he had been majority leader before Kennedy tapped him for vice president) to secure passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. That law transformed the country, largely bringing to an end nearly 200 years of state-supported discrimination on the basis race. Without Johnson’s support — a former opponent of civil-rights laws — the bill would never have passed in its current form and the nation might have endured decades more struggle to realize the principle that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights.

i wonder if people like this even realize in their hearts what side of the issue they'd be on if it were 60 years ago

this guy doesn't beat around the bush:

No genuine conservative should have a good word for LBJ on the subject of civil rights. The Editors of NR resisted the civil rights movement root and branch from its very beginning, and they were right to do so on conservative principles. Anyone who knows the history of American conservatism knows that absolutely none of the actions taken by the federal government to end segregationist practices can be justified on grounds that are either conservative or constitutional. The 1964 Civil Rights Act was supported by Republicans because most Republicans prominent in American public life at that time were in no meaningful sense conservatives. Real conservatives such as Barry Goldwater voted no. There are in fact no properly conservative principles that allow government action to change the way of life of the white Southern population, nor to improve the condition of blacks.

the old-school NR opposition to civil rights and affection for Catholic fascism is fairly well known now, but i think the magazine's enthusiastic support of the failed far-right coup against De Gaulle remains underrated in that crazy/repugnant sweepstakes

they did like punk, though:

http://blog.lib.umn.edu/merce011/mercertaylor/pistol-whipped.pdf

-- And no, there is no end of discrimination in the U.S. In fact we have a new Jim Crow with open discrimination against whites and men.

-- First, I agree that LBJ deserves credit for civil rights legislation. However, this legislation lead to overt government sponsored discrimination against whites and men.

-- It seems that the Civil Rights Act simply changed the face of state-supported discrimination of a pale variety to state-supported discrimination of a multicolored variety. Strangely, the Jews and Asians are excluded from this new discrimination.

WHEN WILL WHITE MEN EVER GET AN EVEN BREAK IN THIS COUNTRY?????????

I do love that last commenter's implicit contention that Jews aren't "white."

However, this legislation lead to overt government sponsored discrimination against whites and men.

No surprise if you look at who makes up the government to begin with.

Phil, it was definitely a *thing* with Jewish people I've known to assert that Semitic peoples aren't 'white' per se - it's a wonderful get-out clause for late-'80s white guilt sufferers with that option, but a) holds water better if you're Sephardic and b) most of the people who I knew doing it were Ashkenazi.

I do love that last commenter's implicit contention that Jews aren't "white."

The Irish weren't "white" until fairly recently, either.

had to wash all the peat off first

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/260484/when-life-good-jay-nordlinger

To be in the presence of even one of those intellectual giants is humbling. To be in the presence of both simultaneously was like watching the Sistine Chapel being painted.

Only he would think it was a good idea to be standing directly under the dribblings.

Hey, nobody ever gets seasick on an NR cruise. Right, cruisers?

(crosspost)

Ask and ye shall receive: ILX alum Pareene posts a rundown of the NRO's reactions to the DOMA change

http://www.salon.com/news/gay_marriage/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2011/02/23/corner_doma_response

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/260751/white-house-names-first-male-social-secretary-brian-bolduc

ctrl+f for gay: 0 results

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/260770/1500-watching-tyler-perry-movie-hans-von-spakovsky

haha okay maybe that dude has a point

you really can't expect to win a lawsuit against someone because they rudely told you to turn off your cell phone

also, they were at a Tyler Perry movie, their ability to judge tone was already suspect

i dont "get" that spakovsky piece, what is he even complaining about

the same thing Hans A Von Spakovsky always complains about

I don't think gloating and complaining are really the same thing

this is like gall.txt

Most importantly, teachers have important non-financial compensation — working with children in a universally admired profession, etc.

Plus they get gifts at the end of the year, a sign of real respect.

meanwhile, J. No is still a prissy creep

Here is a messy subject: the sheer, physical dirtiness of the Left. The detritus of the Left. I grew up with it, in Ann Arbor: the placards, the sleeping bags, the leaflets, the graffiti, the tent cities, the associated garbage. We see the same thing in lovely Madison now. These people expect other people to clean up after them: the “working people” they claim to love and represent.

Some people snickered at the “tea partiers,” who were proud of leaving their rallying sites cleaner than they found them. Well, they should have been proud, those tea partiers.

Of course, it remains true that the hippie-lefty girls were some of the prettiest around. They hadn’t bathed or brushed their teeth in days. They wore filthy and torn T-shirts and jeans. Their hair was greasy. But they were, you know, 20, and they were beautiful . . .

Truly the sign of a man disappointed by life.

ere is a messy subject: the sheer, physical dirtiness of the Left poor. The detritus of the Left poor. I grew up with it, in Ann Arbor: the placards, the sleeping bags, the leaflets, the graffiti, the tent cities, the associated garbage. We see the same thing in lovely Madison now. These people expect other people to clean up after them: the “working people” they claim to love and represent.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/260957/god-save-king-and-motion-picture-storytelling-mark-steyn

lol

man they love that dude over there

Most importantly, teachers have important non-financial compensation — working with children in a universally admired profession, etc.

is this part of their reasoning about the joys of unpaid motherhood too?

Nordlinger's been awesome the last week:

On Michelle’s Jetting, Etc.

March 1, 2011 10:34 A.M.
By Jay Nordlinger

In Impromptus today, I talk a little about presidents’ vacations — and first ladies’ vacations. Poor Bill Clinton: When he was running for reelection, he was forced to vacation in Wyoming. Before that, it had been the Vineyard. After that, it would be the Vineyard again. Oh, what people have to put up with for the sake of politics!

After writing my column, I had a memory of Dick Cheney. He arrives in Davos, that perfect specimen of Alpine splendor. And he says, “Almost as nice as my valley in Wyoming.” He goes there even when he’s not running. Strange people, Republicans.

Remember this: If you’re a liberal Democratic first lady, you can go to Vail, the Vineyard, the Costa del Sol. If you’re a Republican first lady — a ranch in sweltering Texas is for you, bucko. (I realize a first lady is not really a “bucko.”) (I also realize that Kennebunkport is pretty nice in the summer.) (No, I will not talk about cloth coats.)

man, the myth of W.'s "crawford ranch."

the hair splitting is so fine that when Clinton goes to Wyoming it doesn't even count.

If you’re a liberal Democratic first lady, you can go to Vail, the Vineyard, the Costa del Sol.

Michelle O., rootless cosmopolitan

quick, when was the last time anybody thought about sirhan sirhan?

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/261094/sirhans-parole-victor-davis-hanson

while we're at it, this kurtz dude is a trip

http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Where-s-Waldo-Reading-Alinsky

During campaign 2008, the "leaders" of Obama’s original community group regaled the press with tales of Obama’s modesty. He sat in the back of the room, while they did the talking. In fact, their actions were elaborately scripted and choreographed by Obama, the group’s real leader. An Alinskyite organizer is supposed to look as if he’s beyond ideology, stirring up the group to action only when reacting to some apparent slight by the powers that be. (In fact, organizers have elaborate techniques for provoking potential targets into apparent offenses against the group.)

talk about owned

Not long ago, I was in Norway, talking with some politicos — right of center. (Well, in Norway, you could be a socialist, and still be right of center. I mean “right of center” even in American terms.) I said, “Obama is the perfect American president for the Norwegian political culture, isn’t he? I mean, no wonder they gave him the Nobel prize. He’s left-wing, he apologizes for America, he wants a more Norwegian-like state, he’s pro-abortion, he’s anti-Israel, he venerates the U.N. — he’s even black. He’s perfect.”

One of the Norwegians said, “No, he could be gay. Then he’d be perfect.” I said, “I stand corrected, my friend.”

"he's even black"

these guys are such lame choads.