Hatred of Itunes

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The idea being that you want to edit the tracks' Sort Name, over on the right-hand side of the dialogue box.

Millsner, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I kinda like keeping the right name, though. What's the purpose in supporting UTF-8 if you can't use it? I just want all the !!! trax to be together. (xp)

libcrypt, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link

You mean "Artist", right? I have reset that a few times.

libcrypt, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Nah, keep the Artist field just as it was, with "!!!". Only change what's in the sorting fields, as you don't see them in normal usage; iTunes just uses the info internally for sorting purposes. Anything you type in them overrides the regular tags just for sorting. Like this:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/akadaver/Picture1.png

These fields allow iTunes to sort bands like "The ____" by the first letter in the second word, rather than lumping them all together in the T section. It happens automatically.

Millsner, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link

(Not saying this is how you've got to do things, but it might explain why your songs aren't listed together despite having outwardly similar artist tags.)

Millsner, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I hadn't ever opened that tab, I don't think. I usually edit multiple files at once, and that doesn't show up when you do a multi-edit. I wish I could keep !!! even for sorting, but this solution will do. Thanks.

libcrypt, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link

You can still keep "!!!" for sorting, but if you do, make sure that all of your files are doing the same thing.

Millsner, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

problem is having any !!! on yr hard drive in the first place

DG, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

zing

mookieproof, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link

quite good that i thought

DG, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Highly novel zing there I'll be writing that one down.

libcrypt, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link

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i'd like to thank you all so much

DG, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

i just bought an ipod, and was gonna use ilx for general remedial itunes questions, but i can narrow it down to this: is itunes going to annoy the fuck out of me? given that my computer is too shitty to hold any of the music on there permanently, is it going to require complicated syncing, and occasionally delete huge chunks of music, and stubbornly refuse to upload a christine carter record, and loads of other things? it's all more complicated than i thought.

schlump, Monday, 10 November 2008 04:47 (fifteen years ago) link

1. Don't set it to "sync": Turn off that in prefs and drag music onto iPod.
2. If you are some weirdo FLAC/Ogger, then yes, you will be annoyed.

☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ (libcrypt), Monday, 10 November 2008 04:52 (fifteen years ago) link

sync off and not a flac-er, thank you x

schlump, Monday, 10 November 2008 05:29 (fifteen years ago) link

i never have any problems with it. get an external drive to hold all your music though.

akm, Monday, 10 November 2008 06:27 (fifteen years ago) link

^^ this

iTunes has a piss-poor user interface so I haven't bothered using it enough to notice bugs

Funky Buddha Lounge (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 10 November 2008 06:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I think iTunes is the best music app today. Why are there so many haters?

A friend of mine likes to complain about iTunes a lot, but he swears by Foobar2000, which is like the most godawful UI ever in the history of UIs so it's like he's a a martian trying to convince me that I'd feel a lot better w/o all this useless "oxygen" in my atmosphere.

☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ (libcrypt), Monday, 10 November 2008 06:38 (fifteen years ago) link

iTunes is fantastic. It's also very basic. The UI is mostly fine, and it doesn't delete anything you don't want it to. Myths abound.

GO BLACK DUDE FROM SPACE ♡♥♡♥♡♥♡♥♡♥♡ (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 10 November 2008 06:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm trying to burn an MP3 CD from Itunes. The music was uploaded from a CD, but it still won't do it: 'Only files that are already in MP3 format may be burned to an MP3 CD' ...

ljubljana, Monday, 10 November 2008 07:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Sounds as though you're ripping songs from the CD in AAC—or some other—format, the iTunes default. It won't let you burn them to an MP3 CD because they probably aren't MP3s.

Millsner, Monday, 10 November 2008 07:15 (fifteen years ago) link

i.e. There is no mystical, DRM, iTunes-is-evil issue going on here. Probably.

Millsner, Monday, 10 November 2008 07:16 (fifteen years ago) link

damn, you're right, I think I did upload some of those in AAC. I'd forgotten :-( But yay no itunes issue.

ljubljana, Monday, 10 November 2008 07:33 (fifteen years ago) link

the only reason I hate itunes is because it takes so much memory to run. Firefox + iTunes = :- ( computer

burt_stanton, Monday, 10 November 2008 08:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Argh I just got a new Ipod Classic and Anapod doesn't recognise it :( Now I have to use this horrible piece of crap again.

Is Songbird any good? One of my workmates said he uses that instead.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Monday, 10 November 2008 13:43 (fifteen years ago) link

iTunes has a piss-poor user interface

What's wrong with it? I suppose, more specifically, what would you like it to do?

Fat Penne (Ned Trifle II), Monday, 10 November 2008 14:50 (fifteen years ago) link

the main thing missing from itunes IMO is the ability to "watch" a folder; this would enable you to just drop your mp3s into a folder and have them show up in the library without having to "add" them manually.

akm, Monday, 10 November 2008 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I basically just like to be able to drop mp3 folders/files from explorer straight onto my Ipod which I don't think is very easy to do on Itunes. Found something called YamiPod which seems to work so far. Fuck a library.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Monday, 10 November 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

mediamonkey lets you drag and drop to ipod from windows explorer as well as library/sync options (including podcasts now, they were kinda late on that). i don't bother hating itunes anymore. i only keep it around in case the ipod needs reformatting, and on the rare occasion MM can't read a disc itunes seems to always comes through like a champ(a very slow-ripping champ, and i can probably find a way better alternative but i like that itunes does something for me every once in a while)

que(ef) (tremendoid), Monday, 10 November 2008 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I think iTunes is the best music app today

lunacy tho

que(ef) (tremendoid), Monday, 10 November 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link

"I basically just like to be able to drop mp3 folders/files from explorer straight onto my Ipod which I don't think is very easy to do on Itunes."

it depends on yr setup - if like me you manually manage yr ipod, then it is that simple. the ipod and it's content appears in the itunes interface, and you can drag files straight into that list. big fat deal. (OTOH if yr synced, then dragging it to itunes library will sync it to yr ipod anyway??)

when a file manager can cope with music metadata the way itunes can then i'll be half-annoyed that i have to drag into one rather than the other. otherwise, bothered.

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Monday, 10 November 2008 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Fair enough didn't know you could do that. Still prefer not to use if I don't have to cos it's so amazingly slow. When I first started it up this morning it rendered my laptop almost useless while it pissed about trying to get album art (even thought that option is unticked in preferences, wtf?)

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Monday, 10 November 2008 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

the main thing missing from itunes IMO is the ability to "watch" a folder; this would enable you to just drop your mp3s into a folder and have them show up in the library without having to "add" them manually.

If you are on Mac, this is probably a 5-line applescript.

☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ (libcrypt), Monday, 10 November 2008 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link

By that I mean, on the iPod. iTunes can keep its library automatically organized.

The biggest mistake people make with iTunes/iPod is leaving "sync" on. Turn it off and 90% of complaints go away.

☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ (libcrypt), Monday, 10 November 2008 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I think that folks' biggest problem with iTunes is that they don't bother to sort out the prefs before hooking up an iPod.

☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ (libcrypt), Monday, 10 November 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link

If you don't sync what's the point of using iTunes?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 November 2008 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Playing music?

☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ (libcrypt), Monday, 10 November 2008 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

There's this new thing called "computers" where people can listen to music without using a turntable. You should try it!

☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ (libcrypt), Monday, 10 November 2008 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link

If you don't sync

having an ipod that's smaller than your music collection. sometimes i just move albums on and take em off, other times i use a smart folder of 'new stuff' to update against.

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Monday, 10 November 2008 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Is Songbird any good? One of my workmates said he uses that instead.

― I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Monday, 10 November 2008 13:43

i too would like to know about this. i downloaded it ages ago with a view towards taking a look, but haven't yet got around to it. any cop?

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Monday, 10 November 2008 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i have to manually do all of this, I have 500GB of music and an 80GB HD,syncing would be impossible.

akm, Monday, 10 November 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

80GB ipod, I meant

akm, Monday, 10 November 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I checked out the latest Songbird release last week, but didn't see the appeal. It's open source, so I guess that matters to some people.

Millsner, Monday, 10 November 2008 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I have an old iPod Touch. Is there any way to send mp3s to it without using iTunes? I was able to do it with my old Nano with ml_ipod or whatever, but does anything similar exist for the Touch? Loading up iTunes takes about a day.

burt_stanton, Monday, 10 November 2008 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Time for a new computers burty.

☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ ☃ (libcrypt), Monday, 10 November 2008 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

If you don't sync what's the point of using iTunes?

Is there some other easy way of throwing things on my iPod? Because I'd be more than happy to stop using the program entirely.

nabisco, Monday, 10 November 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean, it's a lot of resources for something I use solely as an iPod interface and occasional mp3 converter

nabisco, Monday, 10 November 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Put iPod on floor, pick up objects, stand a few feet away from iPod, hold the object above your head. Thrust your arms downward while releasing objects, attempting to aim their trajectory so they will land on the iPod.

Compatible with all software & hardware.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, 10 November 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

YAHHH TRICK YAHHH

The Reverend, Friday, 26 December 2008 05:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Is mediamonkey any good?

The Reverend, Friday, 26 December 2008 05:24 (fifteen years ago) link


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