i know that the following is kind of odd and/or dumb, but i am bored and it's bothered me for such a long time so here goes ...
... y'all remember that episode "the menagerie," where the talosian aliens kidnap captain christopher pike in order to use him and vina (the female survivor of the original exploratory mission that crashed on the aliens' planet) as breeding stock to repair and build equipment & thereby save the talosian race, right? obviously, we all can understand the mechanics of how all that would work when captain pike was still able-bodied (even though IRL vina was all fucked up and God only knows precisely WHERE the talosians stuck her genitalia when they "repaired" her or even if it was fully functional and whatever the truth wr2 all that pike was brainwashed so he'd think that he was schtupping some hottie instead of a deformed lump of flesh).
when the talosians allowed pike to return after HIS accident, however, when he was all deformed and everything from his torso downwards was confined to that wheelchair-box device -- presumably he WOULDN'T be able to actually mate with vina, right? i mean, HIS genitalia was stuck in that wheelchair-box thing and, even IF by some feat the talosians took a can opener & "let it all out" then the sheer weight of the wheelchair would crush vina when they were getting it on.
so presumably, the talosians' letting pike rejoin vina was just an act of mercy on their part -- since the aliens were fucked as a species anyway and they seemed to be fond of human beings (even as playthings), so why not?!? is this the correct interpretation?!?
― Eisbaer, Monday, 10 September 2007 07:54 (seventeen years ago) link
I ask the ILX massive - does being a fan of Star Trek make you a "nerd"?
My wife was disputing her nerd status the other day and I was maintaining that anyone who likes Star Trek is de facto a nerd (myself included)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 10 September 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link
particularly anyone who owns multiple action figures/lego figurines of Captain Kirk, Khan, the Gorn, and Spock, among others
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 10 September 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link
Wait, your wife owns those or you do?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 September 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link
well, TOS has finished on bbc2 (all aired after 1am, with no fanfare, why? was a time when bbc 2 would show three different ST series at 6pm on weekdays) and TNG has resumed. it's not great.
― koogs, Monday, 10 September 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link
jsut caught 'inner light' episode of TNG. best episode ever?
― Alan, Monday, 10 September 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link
my wife purchased them/received them as gifts, altho techically since we're married I guess they count as "ours"
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 10 September 2007 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link
fwiw I have no doubts about the certainty of my nerd status
there was a captain named christopher pike? like the kids' horror author?
i don't think star trek fan makes you auto-nerd, but i'd wouldn't make a bet against it. my mom for example is a casual tng fan and is not a nerd, she will watch it if it's on tv, f'rex.
― Will M., Monday, 10 September 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link
my wife goes well beyond "casual fan" - owns all the DVDs of TOS + the cartoons, plus deluxe editions of several of the movies (first movie, Khan, Star Trek VI), has numerous books written by castmembers, etc.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 10 September 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link
> there was a captain named christopher pike? like the kids' horror author?
was the captain in the pilot episode, pre kirk. footage was later recycled in another episode and, i think, the character came back later.
― koogs, Monday, 10 September 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link
that "Menagerie" episode always scared/haunted me, what with those veins you could see pulsating under the surface of the Talosians' heads.
btw, I am not a nerd. I am in nerd rehab.
― pj, Monday, 10 September 2007 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link
i think TNG is safely in mainstream/non-nerd territory - wasn't it one of the top 10 rated shows for much of its run? that's way better than, say, buffy ever did. TOS prob isn't even that nerdy anymore, i know lots of regular ppl who have fond memories of the early 80s movies, at least (cf jerry and george getting weepy over "wrath of khan" in that seinfeld episode).
― J.D., Monday, 10 September 2007 21:06 (seventeen years ago) link
dud = "real" SF fans' snobbery abt star trek. espec since lots of original series episodes were written by terrific classic writers - theodore sturgeon, james blish, h****n ellison, etc etc.
― J.D., Monday, 10 September 2007 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link
I've never met any of these "real" SF fans
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 10 September 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link
also are you worried about Harlan googling himself and showing up here to harangue you or what?
It's between that and "Yesterday's Enterprise" - both are miles better than "Best of Both Worlds"
― Duane Barry, Monday, 10 September 2007 23:37 (seventeen years ago) link
i think that the author christopher pike named himself after ST's captain christopher pike.
― Eisbaer, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 01:15 (seventeen years ago) link
The Menagerie is like an animated tumor at the back of my brain, informing every move I make as an adult. Well, almost. I was so in love with Kirk as a 13-yr-old. I never watched the lated incarnations of the show.
― Beth Parker, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 01:54 (seventeen years ago) link
larer, No, later. I r drunk
― Beth Parker, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 02:00 (seventeen years ago) link
pike's going to be a major character in the upcoming movie, yeah?
― Alan, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 10:04 (seventeen years ago) link
Easy job for the scriptwriter then.
Pike: BLEEP. BLEEP BLEEP. BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEEEEEP.
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 10:08 (seventeen years ago) link
somewhat incredibly there was a slash fiction question on University Challenge last night, specifically the *very easiest* question about it imaginable.
― Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 10:10 (seventeen years ago) link
no, this will be pike pre-accident. pre the events of the menagerie even.
― Alan, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 10:16 (seventeen years ago) link
NO SHIT
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 10:17 (seventeen years ago) link
isn't the film abt Kirk in his Starfleet Academy days?
i think i read that somewhere.
― Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 10:18 (seventeen years ago) link
7307 Takei, people!
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 4 October 2007 03:01 (sixteen years ago) link
ethan is the best on the star trek threads. :D
esp abt TNG
― Abbott, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link
SIMONTRIFE: its funny to imagine teh rest of culture continued on without them but on the enterprise they just wanted everything to be old and european bcz they were white supremicists SIMONTRIFE: like, everybody else in the galaxy is listening to get low 2450 SIMONTRIFE: theyre like a bunch of renaissance faire nerds SIMONTRIFE: its a show abt a bunch of nerds who fly around in a spaceship SIMONTRIFE: a bunch of rich white yuppie nerds
i still think this is a good theory
― and what, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link
"rainbow that grants all your wishes" "frere jacques elevator" still make me laff alla time
I was laughing about them today and that's why I revived this.
― Abbott, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Ronan909: they were all into such shit stuff aswell Ronan909: on the holodeck Ronan909: "i've recreated a 1924 jazz club with no one in it" Ronan909: "i feel this is the best use of being able to simulate any event ever"
― and what, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link
SO FUCKING CLASSIC! hahahahahaha
― Abbott, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Still gold.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link
I can never see TNG now without thinking of that convo.
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link
And porno Interactive Fiction, obv.
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Ronan909: REG BARCLAY SIMONTRIFE: honestly, is he like ten?? Ronan909: AKA *******
pretty sure this said "NED RAGGETT"
― and what, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link
this thread is why ethan should never ever be banned, lol
― latebloomer, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Beautiful.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link
false alarm, it was 'graham'
― and what, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link
None of you are real geeks. Listen: I.. played.. Star Fleet Battles.This means that I not only believe in an alternate timeline for the original series, but that I also played a tactical simulator based on that timeline using counters and hexagons...
This means that I not only believe in an alternate timeline for the original series, but that I also played a tactical simulator based on that timeline using counters and hexagons...
Been there. Done that. I can also trump it because I had a copy of Federation Space, which was the short-lived strategic macro-level version of Star Fleet Battles. Imagine the Dr. Strangelove war room or the Imperial War Museum map room only with Federation vs. Romulan vs. Tholian vs. etc.
Sold it for quite a bit of $$$ on eBay.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 8 November 2007 01:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Okay, so you played sStar Fleet Battles, but did you play the rules set that took it into 3-D. If not, I win.
Actually, I lose for admitting to that. Forever.
― Stone Monkey, Thursday, 8 November 2007 07:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes I did. I also played this game... A lot!
At least it provided some answers as to what would happen if a bunch of X-Wing fighters and the Millennium Falcon went up against the Enterprise (the X-Wings usually won)
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 8 November 2007 07:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Chris, when we're of retirement age, I still have my copy of Federation Space!
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 8 November 2007 08:11 (sixteen years ago) link
I also long for the day when I have enough time to play a full game of Days of Decision+World in Flames!!!
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 8 November 2007 08:12 (sixteen years ago) link
SIMONTRIFE: they borrowed their shoulder pads from vivian banks
― adam, Thursday, 8 November 2007 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Ronan909: the irish guy is so funny too Ronan909: colm meaney Ronan909: chief o brien Ronan909: one of my friends gets called chief cos he looks like him Ronan909: have you ever seen "the snapper" Ronan909: he plays an Irish dad in it Ronan909: whose daughter gets pregnant at 16 Ronan909: its so fucking funny Ronan909: he has slippers and dodgy cardigans etc Ronan909: his wife goes but what about the neighbours Ronan909: and he flings a cup of tea and goes Ronan909: "AH FUCK THE NEIGHBOURS"
― and what, Thursday, 8 November 2007 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link
virgin 1 is showing TNG but despite it being a bank holiday i don't think i can take encounter at farpoint again
― DG, Monday, 24 March 2008 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link
i scored both parts of this at a thrift store for a buck apiece on VHS, but they've really, really worn out their welcome.
― ian, Monday, 24 March 2008 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link
Season 3 of TNG is when the show really starts getting good anyway.
― Sparkle Motion, Monday, 24 March 2008 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link
I was thinking this was the thread where I made the joke about Troi lezzing up with Worf's forehead, but I guess not.
― HI DERE, Monday, 24 March 2008 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link