DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

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yellow cards have kept the ilx peace for years now

Jefferson Mansplain (DG), Monday, 7 February 2011 12:12 (fifteen years ago)

"community tigger" plz.

Mark G, Monday, 7 February 2011 12:34 (fifteen years ago)

local agencies will be compelled to take action if five people from five different residences in the same neighbourhood have complained and no action has been taken

http://columns.stlcomics.com/tftlof/VIII/full/vigilante40.jpg

전승 Complete Victory (in Battle) (NotEnough), Monday, 7 February 2011 12:47 (fifteen years ago)

there were pretty similar stipulations under the ASBO system tbh

a gadfly within the ranks of the nationalist far right (history mayne), Monday, 7 February 2011 12:55 (fifteen years ago)

don't want to be 'that guy' but that's not really vigilanteism

it's all moot really because the police are fucking useless tribalist pricks whose main job is covering their own arses

a gadfly within the ranks of the nationalist far right (history mayne), Monday, 7 February 2011 12:56 (fifteen years ago)

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m2/oct2005/5/2/0004010E-7983-1360-B1370C01AC1BF814.jpg

Rodney 'Dave' Cameron.

James Mitchell, Monday, 7 February 2011 13:08 (fifteen years ago)

that isn't rodney.

if there is a King Moaty, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 7 February 2011 13:15 (fifteen years ago)

Trigger calls him Dave, though.

James Mitchell, Monday, 7 February 2011 13:18 (fifteen years ago)

http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2010/03/4-cameron-hoodie656.jpg

community trigger

conrad, Monday, 7 February 2011 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12378565

Some cracking insights from the Institute of Directors into how to save the country here

I heard that repeatedly punching members of the Institute of Directors in the face would save the UK economy £8 billion a week alone

MPx4A, Monday, 7 February 2011 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

Councils defeat government over school buildings

I'm going to love Gove's spin on this.

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Friday, 11 February 2011 11:18 (fifteen years ago)

Voila!

"We are delighted that the judge did not call into question the decision to end the wasteful and bureaucratic BSF programme."

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Friday, 11 February 2011 11:28 (fifteen years ago)

Words fail me

Death and Taxis (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 11 February 2011 11:34 (fifteen years ago)

Rumours going round that they've canned the forest sell-off as well. You don't fuck with Middle England when it comes to trees.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 February 2011 12:05 (fifteen years ago)

james brokenshire

henri grenouille (Frogman Henry), Friday, 11 February 2011 12:08 (fifteen years ago)

If they don't backtrack on that they are idiots. It's a win-win for them surely? They can say they listened, and it won't cost them much.

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Friday, 11 February 2011 14:01 (fifteen years ago)

Backtracking is rarely a good look for governments though, especially on the same day as the schoolbuilding defeat.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 February 2011 14:05 (fifteen years ago)

Probably wait till next week when there's some good news.

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Friday, 11 February 2011 14:10 (fifteen years ago)

Good news?!?!?!?

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 11 February 2011 14:11 (fifteen years ago)

You never know.

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Friday, 11 February 2011 14:18 (fifteen years ago)

ie alan johnson resuming shadow chancellor role

schlump, Friday, 11 February 2011 16:29 (fifteen years ago)

Just waiting until Mubarak was ready to go obviously.

Ministers halt some forest sales after public outcry

I'm surprised at this actually, because DEFRA's website (relevant pages now taken down) seemed to say that no matter what the outcome of the public consultation on the bulk of forestry lands this first sell-off was a done deal.

I'm sorry, I did not create the cosmos, I merely explain it. (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 11 February 2011 17:38 (fifteen years ago)

Just waiting until Mubarak was ready to go obviously.

Open goal that

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 11 February 2011 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

Just found out Hull City Council have done their bit for the deficit by eliminating all childrens and youth services. Kudos.

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 February 2011 17:44 (fifteen years ago)

Ken promising to squeeze 'em till the pips squeak

Tom D (Tom D.), Saturday, 12 February 2011 12:21 (fifteen years ago)

Just found out Hull City Council have done their bit for the deficit by eliminating all childrens and youth services. Kudos.

― Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Friday, February 11, 2011 5:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

bring em all to pearson park saturday 10-12 for some shared service provision

i fellate myself and want to fly (whatever), Saturday, 12 February 2011 22:32 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/feb/12/david-cameron-big-society-good

And if someone wants to help out with children, we will sweep away the criminal record checks and health and safety laws that stop them.

this one's going to end well!

lex pretend, Sunday, 13 February 2011 10:27 (fifteen years ago)

shit that reads like an onion article.

'take a trip with me to a birmingham estate' is pitched entirely at people who might consider going on a fact-finding eye-opener of a daytrip to a birmingham estate, before returning home.

also 'i was into social justice before cuts got all famous'.

schlump, Sunday, 13 February 2011 10:40 (fifteen years ago)

yeah it reads exactly like a particularly uninspired major label press release

lex pretend, Sunday, 13 February 2011 10:42 (fifteen years ago)

Take a trip with me to Balsall Heath in Birmingham and I'll show you a place once depressingly known as a sink estate but now a genuinely desirable place to live. Why the transformation? Because even in a tough neighbourhood, the seeds of a stronger society were there and residents boldly decided they'd had enough and drove out the crime.

And what the fuck's that got to do with you, Dave?

Tom D (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 February 2011 10:53 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/work/article.html?in_article_id=522795&in_page_id=53928

I'd rather climb into the saddle of my Ford Mustang and sink spurs (stevie), Sunday, 13 February 2011 11:03 (fifteen years ago)

that's genuinely obscene - even just the basic fact that internships can be auctioned off at all

lex pretend, Sunday, 13 February 2011 11:09 (fifteen years ago)

Story's been buried of course

Tom D (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 February 2011 11:14 (fifteen years ago)

Take a trip with me to Balsall Heath in Birmingham and I'll show you a place once depressingly known as a sink estate but now a genuinely desirable place to live. Why the transformation? Because even in a tough neighbourhood, the seeds of a stronger society were there and residents boldly decided they'd had enough and drove out the crime.

thing is, while the balsall heath forum has dozens of volunteers, it also has about 20 paid staff, and is described as permanently in a funding crisis. when it does get money, it's from the council and the police. so the big society looks an awful lot like bad old state intervention.

and it's worth remembering what really happened when residents boldly decided to drive out crime:

A woman's home was firebombed on one occasion, and had bricks, crossbow darts and fireworks arrive through her letterbox and windows at other times. Notes delivered to real or suspected prostitutes gave a flavour of a menacing atmosphere in which anonymous denunciation was encouraged:

"Hello bitch, so you think your clever running a brothell. Well lets see what we can stop you! Now we could smash the windows We could smash your face. Best of all we could burn you out, it only takes one match and a spot off parafin." Or: "The fat cow at no 10 says your a fancy bitch. If was you I would sell up quickly."

joe, Sunday, 13 February 2011 12:15 (fifteen years ago)

Cameron with some ostensibly left-wing collectivist views, smothered in PR-friendly corporatist rhetoric, not buying a word of it

acoleuthic, Sunday, 13 February 2011 12:35 (fifteen years ago)

houses

12 February 2011 9:51PM

Rather, it combines three clear methods to bring people together to improve their lives and the lives of others: devolving power to the lowest level so neighbourhoods take control of their destiny.

Police your own streets, clean your own streets, bring out your own dead etc

opening up our public services, putting trust in professionals and power in the hands of the people they serve

Don't expect any kind of service from privatised health or social services, despite continuing to pay taxes, all of which will go to pay banker style salaries to privatised utility bosses.

and encouraging volunteering and social action so people contribute more to their community.

Sack hundreds of thousands of public sector workers and then force them to do the same jobs in return for their benefits.

It's a sort of cross between 1890's Britain and Mussolini's corporate kleptocracy, all informed and inspired by the example of the sickest and most unequal society on the planet - the USA.

I really don't know what to say - it's a vision of hell.

get this person on ilx imo

acoleuthic, Sunday, 13 February 2011 12:43 (fifteen years ago)

Cameron with some ostensibly left-wing collectivist views, smothered in PR-friendly corporatist rhetoric, not buying a word of it

― acoleuthic, Sunday, 13 February 2011 12:35 (15 minutes ago)

got this the wrong way around. ditch 'ostensibly' and it's the inverse of this. guy's a fraud and a cunt

acoleuthic, Sunday, 13 February 2011 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

Not sure that he's a fraud so much as just plain wrong

Tom D (Tom D.), Sunday, 13 February 2011 13:00 (fifteen years ago)

kind of feel that when people say "the big society's just a fig leaf for cuts" they're missing the point - i think cameron really does sincerely believe in the big society (which makes it worse, prob) precisely because it's the SAME THING as a small state, just looked at/sold from the opposite angle.

i do wonder whether they could've got away with selling it like that in economically stronger times (or, y'know, not in the PR-speak way they've tried to sell it either - just whether the basic concept would've gained more/any traction)

lex pretend, Sunday, 13 February 2011 13:15 (fifteen years ago)

And if someone wants to help out with children, we will sweep away the criminal record checks and health and safety laws that stop them.

In my experience as a playgroup treasurer and helper and in Mrs Trifle's experience as a guide leader we've heard many reasons - no time, doing two jobs already, "helping out" somewhere else, bad back, plain can't be bothered, but never once has anyone mentioned criminal record checks and health and safety laws (what laws exactly?).

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Sunday, 13 February 2011 17:22 (fifteen years ago)

There's a real lack of thinking before opening mouth going on with the government at the moment. You've got to wonder what Cameron's people were thinking when the OK'ed that line.

Matt DC, Sunday, 13 February 2011 17:26 (fifteen years ago)

canvassing the prisoner vote

wonder cozen (cozen), Sunday, 13 February 2011 17:33 (fifteen years ago)

Hahahahaha

Matt DC, Sunday, 13 February 2011 17:37 (fifteen years ago)

0_0

I'd rather climb into the saddle of my Ford Mustang and sink spurs (stevie), Monday, 14 February 2011 10:00 (fifteen years ago)

we're all in this etc

I'd rather climb into the saddle of my Ford Mustang and sink spurs (stevie), Monday, 14 February 2011 10:00 (fifteen years ago)

"It is so environmentally friendly," said a committee source. "I would imagine it will pay for itself in three or four months because we wouldn't be printing out great wodges of paper."

...

A new information and communications technology strategy, recently agreed by officials on Parliament's Management Board, included the following imaginary scenario entitled "a possible MP's story in 2015": "As I travel down on the train all the information relating to the parliamentary day arrives on my iPad, I have a quick look through, make some notes and request, by a simple tap on the screen, a printed copy of a report.”

joe, Monday, 14 February 2011 10:22 (fifteen years ago)

Cameron relaunching Big Society again! He's like a friggin' dog with a bone. Default reply for ConDem ministers when pressed on the effects of cuts on local services: "We're doing our bit we've set up the Big Society Bank it's up to local councils how they spend their money we're able to make savings purely on efficiency and so should they and by the way have you seen how much they pay their chief exectuives and what about that guy over there do they need to pay that guy and what about that money they spent on a piece of sculpture load of rubbish too doesn't even look like a real person..."

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 14 February 2011 11:57 (fifteen years ago)

Can someone point to an article where Cameron has said that central government has cut the budget by 10% just on efficiency, so councils should be able to as well?

전승 Complete Victory (in Battle) (NotEnough), Monday, 14 February 2011 12:58 (fifteen years ago)

Slight exaggeration, shall we say "without compromising frontline services my making more efficient use of the funds available, including major efficiency savings" instead?

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 14 February 2011 13:14 (fifteen years ago)


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