2008 Primaries Thread 3: The Rejecting and Denouncening

sweet relief

TS: margin of error vs. statistical insignificance :\

51:40 was a nicer pic.

xpost they're both great

too close to call. +/- 3 pts means we can't tell to closely what's been going on for the last coupla days.

The one thing we can point out as being consistantly redemonstrated w.r.t the matchup polls with mccain is that something is seriously fucked with his coverage. I.e. the dude who wants massively unpopular occupation forever and another four years of dubya everything is matching up stats-even with the two folks who _don't_ rep for the 26-percenter bullshit.

It reminds me of nothing so much as when Lakoff writes about talking to one of the main guys behind Reagan's first campaign; voters didn't support jack shit what the candidate was for, they just really wanted to vote for the dude who had been sold to them.

I mean, nothing new here; packaged candidates and simplistic narratives beat out everything every single time in the Modern Era, even with plenty of people completely cognizant of the process as it occurs each time round.

my opinion on this primary has taken a turn from wanting what i think is best for the country to wanting what i think is best to make gabbneb look like a flippant dick

FT endorses Obama; meanwhile shock and surprise that flippant dickery contained in hypocriticism.

Reagan's first presidential campaign, that is

It's been really clear from the start that McCain will invoke Reagan all the time; he wants to sign bills with some old Bic given to him by the Gipper. WHAT EV ER. Obama is doing a reverse-Reagan but he is running a judo campaign in lots of ways - it will become very boring to the electorate to see the admiral's grandson go on about elitism when so many are sick of family privilege allowing candidates to even run in the first place.

McCain's numbers are so strong right now because Dems are still in FITE! mode. That's all there is to it.

Whatever the polls say now I simply cannot see McCain winning. Basically, the economy will get worse and Iraq will get no better, and that is a fatal combination for McCain. No troop reduction is planned before November; McCain has made his open-ended commitment to Iraq plain and inescapable; and a deepening recession will turn the occupation into a huge economic issue, over and above all the other issues that surround it. McCain won't be able to survive that.

"Flippant dickery" = best phrase I've heard this year

ILX alum weighs in. http://imomus.livejournal.com/368458.html

Your turn, Darnie11e. ;-)

i'm stil O.O re: dusting shoulders off

he is such a mack

countdown to fake right-wing outrage over obama's "coded reference to a song by controversial gangster rapper and former drug dealer jay-z." followed by burst of blog posts and op-ed columns explaining the history and sociology of brushing your shoulders off, plus assorted defenses of jay-z the entrepreneur. chris matthews: "yeah but he's using this kind of, ok, you know, urban gesture, and how does that play to all those guys in the bowling alleys? lot of rap fans there?" rush limbaugh: "gangsta candidate barack obama..." clinton operative: "you can just imagine the republican attack ad, showing obama brushing his shoulders off combined with, you know, scary images from violent rap videos..." tim russert: "let's talk about shoulder-gate..."

lolololol pitch perfect manufactured mathews quote!

yep

If Jay-Z does get referenced by anyone on the right, this entire thing is over for them.

I have to admit I'm pleasantly surprised not to see any "omg he thinks he's a pimp what does that make HILARY HUH SENATOR???" spew from the other side.

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, April 21, 2008 3:01 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

clinton operative: "you can just imagine the republican attack ad, showing obama brushing his shoulders off combined with, you know, scary images from violent rap videos..."

hahaha

along with me, the guys in the bowling alleys have no fucking idea what dusting the shoulders off meant.

dumb america

doesn't listen to Jay-Z America

the old, weird, doesn't listen to jay-z, america

(not a morbs zing! hart u bro)

also nrq, that's not very nice, you asshole.

sorry boo

aw

the speech was in Raleigh, NC (28% black, home to or near numerous colleges), not Bowling Shirt, PA

yes, but Mouthbreather Matthews is hoping like hell to keep it alive and widen its audience to bowlers cuz it's on this thing called TV.

he is?

that's what I assume his asking bullshit questions above means

lol

oh man

Morbs, reread that post; the whole thing is hypothetical

it is a ghost of -gates that could be.

i assumed it was real halfway through. if Matthews plays it, I think he'd be on O's side.

Oh! :p tipsy does a good Matthews!

can my excuse be I slept shitty and have birthday hangover?

lol the clinton excuse

obama celebs http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/20/top-10-celebrity-obama-su_n_96313.html

hilla celebs http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/20/top-10-celebrity-clinton_n_97619.html

http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/042108DailyUpdateGraph1_verosy3.gif

LOL Hillary celebs mostly old/irrelavent.

rly tho

the famous feminist jack nicholson.

"I was raised by women. I know how tough they are when the tough gets going."

Love how George Clooney's admission that celebrity endorsements can hurt more than help at times segues right into Ben Affleck on the stump.

Also, nice photo cropping Huffingtonpost:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com//gadgets/slideshows/147/webpix//slide_147_5.jpeg

I thought Aniston was right-wing.

omg ron paul ad

what the hell

What the fuck was that?

morbs money well spent