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okay, but someone like Kirsten Dunst, I think she pulls off the sack dress look (I realize this is a controversial opinion.)

horseshoe, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm actually just accepting the GFY opinion as the norm. Unless they are talking about something really outrageous, I usually don't see what the big deal is, personally. Pam from the Office on the Aug 05 page is a good example - I love that dress and I love her and I would totally want to wear that dress and be her friend. I just read the site because the women who write it are funny. We also have a shared befuddlement with formal shorts and Uggs.

Jenny, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Like, I am almost 100% okay with wearing dresses over jeans, which makes the GFY writer apoplectic. I also think leggings are a great invention.

Jenny, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

I love go fug yourself, it has saved me from boredom many a time, but those women operate on a really conservative aesthetic, yeah. I hate leggings, though, but only because they look awful on me.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

I actually appreciate some of the conservatism, at least as far as their shunning of trashy, "my thong is the centerpience of my dress" type outfits. I also think they have some sound advice w/r/t foundation garments.

Jenny, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, you know I luff you, but I must take serious issue with your campaign to dress all women in an old potato sack. Here in this land we call the Midwest, we lack the sweeping vistas of a mountain range, an ancient forest, or an ocean. Our greatest resource of natural beauty is nice round Midwestern girl parts, and depriving us of the view would make our land a much bleaker place indeed.

kenan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Here in this land we call the Midwest, we lack the sweeping vistas of a mountain range, an ancient forest, or an ocean.

Uh, I like looking at girls, don't get me wrong, but aside from the mountains we actually do have these things (more or less in the case of the latter i.e. the Great Lakes).

dan m, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

I wish they'd leave Kirsten Dunst/Maggie G/Chloe S alone about not wearing bras, though. Sometimes the girls just need to roam free, fashion be damned.

xp - you're right, Kenan. The great flaw in my campaign is that I failed to consider the desires of men. What was I thinking?

Jenny, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Plus women can wear what they want, it just makes the task of getting them to take it off more... interesting?

dan m, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny 8080 that's the part of fashion snarkiness that always gives me pause, where it becomes super-overtly antifeminist. I was talking to a friend of mine recently about bringing bralessness back.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

I'm for stardard-issue unitards for everyone.

kenan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Because then we will know it is the Future.

kenan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

I was talking to a friend of mine recently about bringing bralessness back.



i will be a tireless worker for this campaign. sign me up.

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

I could also hang with this look, I think:

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/246497~Logan-s-Run-Posters.jpg

kenan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Somehow through four years of college I managed to just not wear bras. I remember my senior year I went on a job interview and had to go buy a bra and I had totally forgotten how it worked.

My boobs are actually big enough now that I appreciate the supportive assistance of a bra. I do wish somebody could figure out how to make them actually comfortable, though.

Jenny, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

lol Michael York

Jordan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, are bras still a Male Gaze issue so much as a practical consideration?

kenan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

well, the context of this discussion was this friend of mine noting that in the 70s bralessness was more of a widespread practice. obviously there are women who need bras for support; I'm not saying bras are evil. it was more of a "fashion status quo has become more restrictive over time" observation. bc the nasty thing that often accompanies "she needs a bra" snark is, you know, what a tramp/slattern/etc. (not saying that's true of gfy, but still)

horseshoe, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

Bring bralessness back:
http://www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_05.11.00/music/nekocase.php

Eazy, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

I think they are both. For example, I chose padded bras because I don't want to walk around with my headlights on and have to hear a lot of smarmy "Is it cold in here?" comments. I would probably pick something a little more minimal otherwise.

xp - or a snark on the unacceptable state of the unsupported breasts in question, which basically says that breasts in their natural state (ie saggy), particularly on older women, are not only undesirable but gross and in dire need of immediate correction.

Jenny, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Bralessness, bralessness, brazen bralessness, brazen bare-ass bralessness.

...

That was fun.

jaymc, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

oh and the other thing that accompanies that snark is OH NOES SAGGY BOOBS, which, whatever, who gives a shit?

horseshoe, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

beartrap with Jenny with whom I always agree.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Eric, that is a little more than bralessness.

What a tramp! ;)

kenan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

I never understood the OH NOES SAGGY thing, either. Here's news for ya: big boobs are gonna droop a little. So look on the bright side, yo. Big boobs.

kenan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

beartrap with Jenny with whom I always agree.

Except for the leggings thing, but I'm not going to let that come between us.

Jenny, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

There's a dirty joke about not letting leggings come between us in there somewhere, isn't there?

Jenny, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

haha, I'm fine with leggings on other people, really!

horseshoe, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

It's very nearly at the surface.

kenan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

2x

John, I started listening to your mixes. The SY one is great, it gives the impression that they rock it all the time. I love their tempos, too, they're very 90s (not too slow, not too fast).

xpost to saggy boobs

Jordan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, SY can not-rock-it sometimes, too. In selecting songs for the mix, I def. went with a lot of the tight rockin' singles. But I still think it's a good overview.

jaymc, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

sonic boobs kill thread, film at 11

xpost

Jordan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sort of testing out the bra-less thing, but then I haven't done laundry in about 8 weeks either so we'll see. And not to teh office.

Laurel, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Hey guys, can we stop talking about boobs and bras and go back to talking about gun control please?

n/a, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

ps joke

n/a, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

maybe it's just me but bra-lessness and the thin cotton t-shirt? match made in heaven.


god, i can NOT start thinking about this at work. back to the salt mines with me.

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin's just right.

Eazy, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6302068967.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

kenan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

I have learned something today!

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/burnbra.htm

kenan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Back to Jenny's gofug link for a sec... It looks like both of Jessica Simpson's arms are broken!

KitCat, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

oh, god that Jessica Simpson picture. what was she thinking?

horseshoe, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Update: Apparently there was a stabbing at the Note sometime last week, and for one reason or another, no turntables. So the DJs are out, but stabbing is in, everyone bring mom's cutlery, I'll have my grindstone, blade-tango starts sometime around midnight and rages onward and upward until the bands start playing at 1fuckinAM.

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

blade tango!

kenan, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah the stabbing = no turntable thing. What the hell?

dan m, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

another update, apparently the Emergenza thing that goes on there earlier in the evening doesn't get over until midnight so i'm guessing the bands won't start until 1:30 or so.

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

THAT MEANS IT WILL BE A LONG F'ING NIGHT FOR SOMEONE STAYING UP WITHOUT HELP.

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

Is that Emergenza thing another one of those Gojangle-esque pay to play scams?

n/a, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

i have no idea what it is but this will be the last busy signals show for a while as kevin is going to europe with the feelers and won't be back until july or august. also on the bill is the really fantastic screaming yellow zonkers and the tuff bananas.

dan, i don't understand the correlation between the stabbing and the banning of turntables either. unless the guy got stabbed with a tone arm or something.

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

STAB THE MOTHERFUCKER IN THE BACK

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

I am frustrated by this work situation: There is a woman who was hired a few months ago to handle specific duties. Last week she said she was handing off this one aspect of her work to me, based on a request from someone else. It's not a lot of extra work, but I was hoping that this "someone else" would talk to me directly about it so I put her off for a few days. They never said anything, so I just caved and took over this assignment. Here are the things that are frustrating: 1) essentially being given an assignment by someone who has been working here a lot less longer than me, 2) the fact that this basically makes the assignment impossible to refuse, because if I say I'm too busy than she doesn't have the responsibility to send it elsewhere, 3) this woman's tone, which is really condescending and annoying for someone who has only been here a few months.

n/a, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:50 (nineteen years ago)


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