come anticipate Miami Vice with me

lol at "leading bros", that is basically it. who is the best leading bro?

"miami vice" is great but i still think it's a tad long

"collateral" is better & also has some of his most breathtaking scenes, altho cruise chews some scenery in that bitch like it's big league chew

still think "ali" is hella underrated even by mann stans

That's the one where Jon Voight as FDR rises unaided from his wheelchair, walks into the ring, and knocks out Foreman, right

Collateral is fantastic too. think I bought that dvd the day it came out

i think "ali" his most beautifully shot movie

I would read a contrarian take on Ali; at the time I didn't think his mythmaking worked when supporting an actual legend. I need to rewatch it.

will smith i just cant, its a tragedy, dont want to talk abt it

Ali's a great looking movie with an amazing opening, that shot of ali walking out of the tunnel at the stadium in zaire, and a cool ted levine cameo - but it's kinda sterile and dull and does nothing to illuminate what kind of man Ali was, and also is maybe overly reverent towards him imo

tho it was a little inappropriate that they retconned Ali into defeating the entire Viet Cong army

i think that if you view mann's films thru an aesthetic lens first & then consider everything else afterword, "ali" comes out in a much better light

that being said it's not like i have a problem w/ sports biopics or anything

but it's kinda sterile and dull and does nothing to illuminate what kind of man Ali was, and also is maybe overly reverent towards him imo

― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Monday, January 31, 2011 6:52 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah basically typical biopic trap, also will smith apparently plays ali

ice cr?m is being so unjiggy right now

imagining what Scarface would have been like if Mann and not De Palma had directed

would've loved to have seen an Ali movie that portrayed him as a monster instead of this safe recycling of shit we already saw in When We Were Kings

i rewatched ali a few months ago -- it just kind of disintegrates into tedium rly, basically just recreating things that happened and were documented, but there is gold in there too

http://vjmorton.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/ali-greatest.jpg

heat is really fucking long and i have things to do. collateral is maybe the only tom cruise movie where i dont want to vomit all the way through. i feel like mann is the only director who uses video where i feel like it looks great *as* video. like it seems like it comes from the same pot of alchemised shit that makes encore seem epic. i totally love that song anyway tho

btw i wasnt paying attn when ali was on tv but i have no idea what makes it any diff from like walk the line or smthg

walk the line is better

not that ive seen it

but i bet i'd be way more into it!

biopics are usually horribly awful and all exactly the same

except Before Night Falls and Carlos.

i find it hard to think b4 nite falls is any good not bc of anything to do w/ the movie but bc schnabel is such a joke of a painter

he is maybe the worst painter of all time including this girl who was in my class who. i mean i dont wanna even get started.

that reminds me i need to do that Prefontaine vs. Without Limits poll i was planning on

heat is really fucking long and i have things to do

You're not working yet, son. Make time imo.

i find it hard to think b4 nite falls is any good not bc of anything to do w/ the movie but bc schnabel is such a joke of a painter

Lucky for all of us he became a much better director.

schnabels transformation from awful painter to rad filmmaker is one of the great mysteries of contpo art - before night falls is a straight up classic great movie

walk the line is better

― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Monday, January 31, 2011 7:04 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it is better!

not really a mystery--painting is hard--making a movie is easy

pfft painting isnt hard check this out *paints*

did schnabel do basquiat? thats the only one ive seen. its ok.

yeah basquiat is alright, before night falls is masterful, diving bell and butterfly is good if kind of minor seeming

some key reasons collateral owns:

mark ruffalo's red herring tough-guy detective character (martin balsam in psycho?)
coyotes
bardem scene
statham cameo

memorable scene from last of the mohicans (which did in fact own): that british dude is getting burned alive and DDL puts him out of his misery w/a long-distance shot

Collateral isn't bad but the plot is totally fucking ridiculous and once they go to the Jazz club it's all downhill.

Ali is pretty awful imo. Smith is robotic and monotonous in it (as he always is lately, but he's playing Muhammad Ali!) and the script is pretty much the most rote and by the numbers Ali biopic you could write.

i dont think smith's bad in it, it's just an underwritten part

he's just not believable at all. He has the vacant expression of an actor in way over his head for like 95% of the movie.

its like casting tom hanks as castro or some shit

Best thing about Ali was ESPN running days and days of Ali fights and programming on ESPN Classic when it was released.

basically Vice is his best film and i say that as a colossal Manhunter fan. it's the sorta film that makes you buy a better telly for the next time you watch it.
i'd basically get a Blu Ray player just for this and the upcoming Star Wars box.

is the original cut on bluray or just the new cut?

new cut on bluray is hella beautiful btw.

Director's cut has never been available on BR. It was on HD-DVD, IIRC.

nah it's out

http://www.amazon.com/Miami-Vice-Unrated-Directors-Blu-ray/dp/B001B7CNXI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1296533867&sr=8-1

D'oh, I meant theatrical cut has never been on BR, but was on HD-DVD.

someone should create a PS3 app or something

still think collateral is the best thing mann did in the 00s

agree w/ this coyotes are incredible whole movie has this amazing energy looks so visceral tom cruise psychosis perfectly utilized

shld probably rewatch vice tho havent seen it in a couple years