wait what did he just say?
― originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link
as of TOMORROW, will designate interim gov't
whoah
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
!!!
― goole, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
whoa wtf this speech took a drastic turn
― Clay, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
oh my god
― originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
ooh
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
"I have ordered the government to step down, and I will name a new government tomorrow"
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
is he just like dissolving parliament?
― mookieproof, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
he's staying put it looks like
― omar little, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
He's not stepping down, he's just changing the government
― Death and Taxis (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link
twitter responses saying otherwise -- mubarak asked the gov't to step down, whatever that means.
xps lol
― goole, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link
oh shit he just said he is stepping down
he said he'd ordered the government to step down, and he'd name a new one tomorrow, but he himself isn't going anywhere!
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i was listening to a translation obv but i didn't hear him explicitly say he was leaving office?
xps yeah
― originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link
not a tenable position surely
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link
kinda hard to believe he's almost 83 yrs old
― omar little, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link
What channel are you watching (if seeing this in the UK)?
i know yall hate me that's why i'm firing my staff
― HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link
al-jazeera
― originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link
reporter saying (obviously) that this won't be enough for the protesters, power is concentrated in the hands of the president anyway
so he's sacking his entire cabinet
wonder if he's playing for time to figure out some way to step aside without being killed/tried for crimes/imprisoned/whatever
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link
thanks xp - don't have it, will keep getting my news from ilx
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link
ismael - http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link
sorry for bungling the translation guys
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link
yes use lex's link
― originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link
aljazeera is crashing my shit, so there's also http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698
― mookieproof, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
thanks lex etc
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
has anyone made the "mubarak in de nile" joke yet?
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Al Jazeera English: Live Stream http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
― am0n, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, January 28, 2011 5:33 PM (21 seconds ago)
haha it's okay, i was sort of tuning him out because it seemed like he wasn't saying much, then all of the sudden i heard "new government tomorrow" and read what you said
― originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm sure he could find refuge somewhere, Saudi at least. If he does attempt this legalistic gambit, (and assuming he digs in and keeps hold of power - something I'm very sceptical about) will he run for re-election in September?
― Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Ismael:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698live coverage there
― Death and Taxis (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
more coverage here > http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
More like 'who hasn't'
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes, upthread. (re De Nile joke)
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
I wasn't really clear to me what "the government" meant in the context of the speech
xp
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Got it now thanks xp - every time he looks up I expect to see that it's Berlusconi
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Got it now thanks
The de Nile joke?
― Death and Taxis (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah is he dissolving parliament or just replacing his cabinet?
― originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
White House's maneuvering here is interesting - all the noise from the State Dept makes it seem like they'd all be more than happy to see Mubarak go, they're just worried about giving him an exit strategy that will preserve US interests
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
VVV
― http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ (am0n), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link
all the noise from the State Dept makes it seem like they'd all be more than happy to see Mubarak go
on that note, i'm not really sure what to make of this piece that seems to be trying to claim that the US was behind this - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8289686/Egypt-protests-Americas-secret-backing-for-rebel-leaders-behind-uprising.html - seems a stretch, to put it mildly, but:
The American Embassy in Cairo helped a young dissident attend a US-sponsored summit for activists in New York, while working to keep his identity secret from Egyptian state police.
On his return to Cairo in December 2008, the activist told US diplomats that an alliance of opposition groups had drawn up a plan to overthrow President Hosni Mubarak and install a democratic government in 2011.
― lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Shakey, given Egypt's history, that interest is likely to be 'stability'.
― Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
aljazeera isn't giving me anything atm but that could be where i am (work)
― goole, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Dissolving Parliament would require new elections, no? So perhaps dissolving the cabinet and maybe a reshuffling of the Prime Minister etc. from within the NDP.
― Alex in Montreal, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Most hilarious bit of that entire speech was the bit that claimed that the ONLY reason the protestors were able to express their grievances was due to Mubarak's own reforms. Which...yes, this is in some meaning of those words true, but LOL at the idea that ppl should be grateful for him "granting" them rights of free speech etc. Also, the idea that his magnanimity in not ordering the army to use violent means vs. protestors should be appreciated.
― Alex in Montreal, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^yeah this was my thinking too. even if he has the authority to dissolve Parliament (okay, sure) that would mean new elections. He can't just appoint a new Parliament, even if he is head of the majority ruling party.
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link
and yes that was lol about the freedoms of the press/assembly being "granted" by the gov't
Will the cabinet actually resign? Does it even matter? Is this just Hitler moving imaginary divisions around in his bunker?
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link
bbc crawl says mubarak is "trying to distance himself from the crack-down across the country"
that would be quite a feat
― mookieproof, Friday, 28 January 2011 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link
he's trying to buy some time
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 January 2011 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link