a thread about the civil unrest in egypt (& elsewhere in 'the region' if necessary)

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The 2010 legislative elections vote-rigging has hurt the NDP and Mubarak's legitimacy pretty badly.

Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Friday, 28 January 2011 17:23 (fifteen years ago)

eh, we'll see

xp

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 January 2011 17:23 (fifteen years ago)

It looks to me as if Clinton is angling for a negotiated departure by Mubarak, accompanied by an increase in political freedom. I think the US is aiming to structure the solution in a way that would protect its key interests: the peace treaty with Israel, the Suez canal, and co-operation against terrorism.

from the graun

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 28 January 2011 17:25 (fifteen years ago)

that makes sense

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 January 2011 17:28 (fifteen years ago)

Beeb reporting protestors are trying to break into the main TV and radio building

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 28 January 2011 17:30 (fifteen years ago)

police van torched

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 28 January 2011 17:33 (fifteen years ago)

this is terrifying

fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 January 2011 17:34 (fifteen years ago)

woman on al-jazeera reporting 3 deaths, incl 14 year old boy

fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 January 2011 17:34 (fifteen years ago)

I was in Cairo in 2007 and all I can think right now is that, added to the pollution they always have, with fires now raging and tear gas all over the place, the air must be really awful.

Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Friday, 28 January 2011 17:35 (fifteen years ago)

protesters trying to swarm ministry of foreign affairs, apparently

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 28 January 2011 17:36 (fifteen years ago)

:)

the realest shit i ever took (am0n), Friday, 28 January 2011 17:36 (fifteen years ago)

huh Al Jazeera also reporting that protesters have been welcoming of the military in various places - which is a good sign, I think. if the protesters get the military on their side, Mubarak is fucked.

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 January 2011 17:37 (fifteen years ago)

The Egyptian military, famously, haven't fired on the people in generations.

Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Friday, 28 January 2011 17:43 (fifteen years ago)

well looks like they're moving in to secure the Foreign Ministry, Ministry of Information, etc so we'll see how this goes

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 January 2011 17:43 (fifteen years ago)

Sky pointing out that the US spends $1.3bn a year on the egyptian military. They can't fire on the people, that ought to mean.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 28 January 2011 17:49 (fifteen years ago)

Pretty sure Egypt is the biggest if not second biggest recipient of US foreign aid

strongly recommend. unless you're a bitch (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 28 January 2011 17:51 (fifteen years ago)

(it's second)

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 January 2011 17:52 (fifteen years ago)

Ah yes second biggest. Viva Israel.

strongly recommend. unless you're a bitch (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 28 January 2011 17:52 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-egypts-day-of-reckoning-2196751.html

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 January 2011 18:08 (fifteen years ago)

hillary right now tellin egypt to TURN THAT INTERNET BACK ON

ice cr?m, Friday, 28 January 2011 18:11 (fifteen years ago)

TEAR THAT FIREWALL DOWN, MR MUBARAK

^^ this will be a headline soon if it isnt yet

max, Friday, 28 January 2011 18:12 (fifteen years ago)

haha yes that more what i was reaching for

ice cr?m, Friday, 28 January 2011 18:14 (fifteen years ago)

egypt is gone off the net because of u

am0n, Friday, 28 January 2011 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

de nile of service

maurice "baby doc" chevalier (brownie), Friday, 28 January 2011 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

interviews on al jazeera seem to pretty much exemplify the state department position here: talking about how we're still besties with mubarak but making really vague remarks about how "our principles" require respect and support for the protesters, and refusing to reconcile or even acknowledge the contradiction while waiting out the crisis to see whom we have to negotiate with at the end.

reporters also keep saying things about the protesters in cairo and suez "welcoming" the military? and shaking hands in the streets? which seems like a really huge deal but which i can't get any details about.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 28 January 2011 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

reports are saying tens of thousands of protesters in egypt - in a city the size of cairo tens of thousands is not that big - def needs to grow to be effective

ice cr?m, Friday, 28 January 2011 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

de nile of service

― maurice "baby doc" chevalier (brownie), Friday, January 28, 2011 1:18 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

fuckin nailed it

max, Friday, 28 January 2011 18:24 (fifteen years ago)

asp.net

am0n, Friday, 28 January 2011 18:30 (fifteen years ago)

Need to leave Mubarak a ladder to climb down xp, he can't be left with ordering fire as his only option. It might look duplicitous but it might work - trying to please a domestic audience shouldn't be a priority here.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 28 January 2011 18:39 (fifteen years ago)

Transition also needed or move up the September Presidential elections

Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Friday, 28 January 2011 18:47 (fifteen years ago)

curfew being totally ignored, NDP headquarters in cairo apparently firmly occupied by protesters. "no sign of police" in suez--just the army, whom the protesters are cheering. (in cairo they're being more aggressive with the army, at least outside the NDP building.)

difficult listening hour, Friday, 28 January 2011 18:52 (fifteen years ago)

Mubarak taking his time with the speech-writing eh

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 January 2011 18:53 (fifteen years ago)

you can't rush inspiration

difficult listening hour, Friday, 28 January 2011 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

Polishing his prose with Nile water.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 January 2011 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

Obama doubtlessly making FDR's "our SOB" remaark about Mubarak

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 January 2011 18:57 (fifteen years ago)

maybe a looter got his pen.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 28 January 2011 18:58 (fifteen years ago)

NDP headquarters in cairo apparently firmly occupied by protesters.

I have read that it was almost entirely burned down.

Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Friday, 28 January 2011 19:10 (fifteen years ago)

Best coverage on this is here: http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

Alex in Montreal, Friday, 28 January 2011 19:13 (fifteen years ago)

live stream here: http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

am0n, Friday, 28 January 2011 19:15 (fifteen years ago)

xp -- it was! they are occupying the husk.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 28 January 2011 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

Unfortunately, I can't watch that AJE stream at work.

Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Friday, 28 January 2011 19:19 (fifteen years ago)

good info: http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

ice cr?m, Friday, 28 January 2011 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

Apparently Syria is suspending Internet service as well.

An Artily Shot Sesame Street (Eazy), Friday, 28 January 2011 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

my cousin who works for the state dept. just got assigned to egypt and moved there a couple weeks ago

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 28 January 2011 19:41 (fifteen years ago)

exciting first day otj

ice cr?m, Friday, 28 January 2011 19:45 (fifteen years ago)

I sent her an email saying whats up hows egypt

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 28 January 2011 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

"I read a thread about it"

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 28 January 2011 19:51 (fifteen years ago)

maybe someday she'll have enough internet to read that email

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 28 January 2011 19:52 (fifteen years ago)

lol

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 January 2011 19:58 (fifteen years ago)

al jaz reporting protesters finding ammunition that says "made in the usa" on it

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Friday, 28 January 2011 20:08 (fifteen years ago)


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