NAMING RIGHTS THREAD: Liverpool really won't win the Premiership 2010-2011

Do you think it's common that a manager gets a cut of every transfer? It sure explains the existence of John Lambie and his signing of 80 players a season then selling them after a month.

"Guardian fined 25k for putting out a weakened exclusive" is pretty bang-on as far as immediate-aftermath-text-message-jokes go, by the way.

Do you think it's common that a manager gets a cut of every transfer? It sure explains the existence of John Lambie and his signing of 80 players a season then selling them after a month.

I believe Iain Holloway receives a percentage of the *profit* on Adam's transfer. I'm not sure how many players have had tenfold increases in value under John Lambie's tutelage.

I'm still sure it's less than under Big Phil and little Brazillians. How much was u-21 captain "Scheidt by name, shite by nature" again?

Nothing near the £5m reported, but still a hell of a lot + wages for a guy they'd only seen in a 5 minute video made by his agent.

iirc Scheidt went on to captain Corinthians (?) to a championship after leaving us. Maybe not as duff as he was painted in the press but totally unsuited to the SPL (see also World Cup winner Juninho who looked fucking gash).

Both players would probably blame Martin O'Neill for their lack of development/opportunities in their time there.

I didn't recall correctly - they won the cup, not the league, when he was there.

Just re-read what you said and I think the answer is "lol EPL". Once somebody looks half decent their price rockets because that's where batshit prices go to die. Xpost to G

Those inflated values are mostly paid between English teams for EPL to EPL transfers. Not too many leave the UK for bigger money than they arrived. EPL chairmen are suckers basically.

I mean seriously... I said earlier this year I'd rather have Charlie Adam than Stevie Me, yet one is "valued" 10x more than the other one. Torres is worth more than £10M after the past couple of seasons? Seen people saying £60M+ onF365.

His scoring record for 18 months before his form slump was the best in the country. I still think there are enough rich people around willing to take a punt on him rediscovering that form.

Also there's no way anyone spends the £50m on Gerrard that was being bandied about when Chelsea were sniffing around.

Gerrard's too old to be worth a transfer now. Torres is still class and would fetch a big fee, but I am worried about his pace rather than form - if that's gone he's half the player he was.

They said that about Owen but have you read the brochure? The guy's still got it (the brochure).

Are United actually paying him at all? I like to think Ferguson sends him out to warm up just as a tease

He brought him on against Liverpool, for purely wind-up reasons I presume.

and on cue Chelsea bid £35m for Torres. I'd've thought 40-something was about right atm, but I didn't know he had a £50m buyout clause and that seems like the facesaving way out for everyone

So Chamakh and Nasri smashed it.

Those inflated values are mostly paid between English teams for EPL to EPL transfers. Not too many leave the UK for bigger money than they arrived. EPL chairmen are suckers basically.

― onimo, Thursday, 27 January 2011 20:44 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

real madrid paid £80m for a virus?

"mostly"

So Chamakh and Nasri smashed it.

― James Mitchell, Friday, 28 January 2011 08:26 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

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I know Torres has had a good, oh what, 6 games since last January but if his form doesn't pick the fuck up soon, surely rejecting bids like 35+m is gonna start looking stupid.

I think James is referring to the blackmail story

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23913144-premier-league-footballer-blackmailed-over-orgy-with-three-swedish-blondes.do

http://marouanechamakh-fan.blogspot.com/2010/06/marouane-chamakh-plays-pickup-game-in.html
Marouane and fellow Arsenal teammate, Samir Nasri, played in a pickup up match in Las Vegas

"Pickup" game indeed

Torres hasn't dropped off anything like conclusively enough that LFC won't be able to get circa £35 mill for him at some point in the next couple of years imo

i guess. i don't like that the market doesn't reflect reality but what headline writers make it. other than his performance against chelsea, he has been a £10m player the past year imo

It's what they think he'll do in the NEXT year so that's important. Be interesting to see if his form picks up if he's at a club he actually wants to play for.

Does he not want to perform for the Spanish side then?

Torres has never shone consistently at International level though has he?

I know age and length of time left on contract come into the equation, but I mean we just supposedly got 6.5 mill for Babel who I don't think many people think has done that well in the last year. So Torres at 10 mill over the last year seems a bit off. But like Matt says it's all about what a club thinks he'll do for them I guess.

26 goals in 81 appearances for a Spanish side that isn't really set up for a player like him isn't too shabby.

how is not set up for him? in fact it has been since before villa started to really become the big thing, took way long to drop him for cesc as an attacking midfield #10 etc.

not trying to be a dick but i guess it comes naturally

really <3 torres on his day and wish he's end up at spurs playing with vdv off him

he's had a lot of injury probs, assuming he's fit he's perhaps worth a little more than 10m. maybe 11 or 12. that's why chelsea have bid 35m.

Suarez!

in?

Looks like it, yeah, up to €26m. Liverpool have confirmed it.

Ajax confirmed it as well, up to max € 26.2m.

LFC Official Site says €26.5m. That's around £22.7m?

:) this better not mean torres is off.

That's a lot of money. Although you could try to rationale it as £15.5 and Ryan Babel (who was never going to be used seemingly). Does Suarez typically play through the middle or can he play wide right in a 4-2-3-1?

how can it mean anything else lg

erm...because they have been trying to sign suarez for a few months.

It'll take time for Suarez to adapt to the Premiership - Van Nistelrooy aside, the history of Dutch league strikers getting to grips with the league quickly is not great to say the least. Liverpool strike me as a club willing to be patient with a signing of that magnitude but immediately getting rid of Torres and making Suarez their sole striker aside from David Ngog would be a ridiculous amount of pressure to pile on him.

They'll sell Torres in the summer I reckon.

Yeah I think he should see the season out. A couple more months, and we'll really know if he's worth persevering with.

yeah i think they'll sell him in the summer too, i think though there is always the chance if him and suarez are playing v well together and the mood improves that he might give it another season it at liverpool.

i agree it might take time but to be fair, the other dutch strikers who failed to adapt are your kevijn van der philips types like alves or kuyt...suarez in more in the ruud van bracket.

Dirk was a bit of a dud striker, until he found his true calling on the right wing...at least in the prime Benitez era.

I'd say Erik Meijer was a success.

http://tomkinstimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Hyypia-Meijer-Westerveld.jpg

<3 Erik Meijer. My mums favourite player "he TRIES so hard" lol