Enter The Void by Gaspar Noé

Seriously, I am totally glad I paid $10 to see this piece of shit in theaters bcz I got to experience the credits sequence.

shame it didn't end after the credits

i was pretty blah on this on first watch, probably a 2.5/5, but i can't help but want to see it again.

I noticed this just popped up on Watch Instantly today.

Yep, streaming on Netflix.

Should I watch this or Dogtooth first? Dogtooth is shorter...

Dogtooth. Then again I don't like Enter the Void.

Though if you're like me that won't matter because of that whole "shorter" thing.

I caught this on Netflix last night. I was pretty impressed although the last hour dragged badly. My favorite part was the whole sequence of flashbacks to his childhood and the days leading up to his death. That part had the most coherent storytelling plus tons of great cinematography. Also, the whole long scene going from his apartment to the club was very well done. There were so many places that left me wondering how they actually achieved particular shots and effects. I'd love to see some of these techniques deployed in the service of a stronger script.

As it moved on to the endless shots of hovering over the city and then the very long Love Hotel sequence, I started to lose interest, but I could easily sit through the first hour and a half again.

This is the most exciting film I have seen in my whole life. It didn't feel like two and a half hours because I was stunned and totally absorbed with this idea of a psychedelic out of body death trip. On paper I wouldn't have bought into this concept which is usually quite shite in movies but Noe makes the silent witness to events after his own death section a mix of neon hypnotic psychedelia, realist mundanity and extremity. It is a new approach to film-making to me because I cannot think of any film to compare it to.

The opening credits have set a new standard for creating excitement before the movie has started. In my youth I got into LSD + DMT and had to laugh at how Oscar kept asking the dealer if he had any DMT yet? It used to be very difficult to get that shit where I lived. But this is more than just a "druggy artporn film" (thats what my girlfriend called it before she stomped off to bed after the first hour). I keep thinking about this movie and cant get it out of my head. There are some moments when you wonder if he is just coasting with standard arthouse extremity (graphic sex, graphic car crash, vagi-cam and graphic abortion) but even so he has created a movie that can be expierienced like a great album. Just so exciting.

Enter The Void was my first Noe movie and I have now bought Irriversible which I will probably have to watch alone because my partner will call me a perv.

man ... DON'T watch Irreversible with your loved ones

it would be like watching Spanking the Monkey with your mom

All I know is that a 9 minute scene caused a mass walkout at Cannes. A lady who writes for the Guardian was recently describing how uncomfortable it was watching Black Swan with her mother during the scene when Kunis goes down on Portman.

Love love love this movie.

Is the 9 minute scene the dmt screensaver trip in the beginning? Amazing the cojones to take that from "wow, neat" to "ok this has really been going on for a while now" to LOLZZZZ

"wow, neat" to "ok this has really been going on for a while now" to LOLZZZZ

that's kind of the whole movie.

Damo's talking about the 9 minute rape scene in Irreversible i do believe.

No Hadrian I was referring to a scene from Irreversible, which I haven't seen yet.

I like the way he makes what should be tedious self-indulgence into visceral eye-candy. Like the scene you mentioned, it is brilliant and switches between overwhelming fucked out of your brain-ness and back to reality in a convincing manner.

A friend watched this at home and like it, tho it literally made him puke.

I wondered if the short scene in Black Swan of Natalie Portman heading toward Lincoln Center is a little hat-tip to this movie, it being shot from behind her head and all.

Aronofsky did that shot a lot in The Wrestler.

trope stolen from the Dardenne brothers (Belgian, so don't give them a second thought)

see how he made that subtle dig there

Loved the first 45 minutes of this, but got diminishing returns as it kept going. Thought the incestual relationship between brother and sister was forced and unbelievable.

I didn't notice any incest. He sniffs her knickers after dropping some ecstasy, 'something' not quite healthy about their relationship but not outright incest. I would agree that Noe doesn't really work on the characters much and some of the dialogue is messy and disjointed. I think the weakest part of the film is the flashback to Oscar's childhood which is in my opinion a little bit soapish and unconvincing.

A lot of it betrays Noe's catholic boy roots. Right, graphic abortion scene - check. Oedipal complex - check. And the tragic car crash explains why he has a drug problem and his sister is in the sex industry, right. Well I assume he is from a catholic upbringing or has at least grew up in a region and era where catholicism might have 'touched him up'.

I still think this is a great movie. It is what happens outside of the dialogue, acting and plot that is the genius of this movie. It is what made it a new type of film experience for me. I might be misguided, but that is my opinion right now. a truly original approach to film making.

Fucking hell I really am a shit film critic. Dont worry Peter Bradshaw your job is safe.

I didn't notice any incest. He sniffs her knickers after dropping some ecstasy, 'something' not quite healthy about their relationship but not outright incest.

did you forget the part where the movie ends with him inside her vagina

his spirit also enters a dude who's fucking her iirc.

let's not forget the sister licking his ear

list thread?

He isn't alive at this point, he is a voyueristic eye that is incapable of any kind of interaction with the living world other than watching it. But I suppose a film like this can be interprated in many ways because of its hallucinatory style. Surely you cant fuck your sister when your dead?

The point I was trying to make rather badly was that I didn't think it was a depiction of overt incest. Yes some unsavoury stuff but no sex between them. It is alluded to but is just background stuff really.

For me if this film was character driven it would be a fail. Linda is just a standard tragic hooker character. It still doesn't detract from the film that you dont buy their interaction and are not convinced that they are siblings. For me this is a film about what goes on when you are out of your mind. The plot and dialogue are just the obligatory components of a wafer thin story in this case. That is what excited me about this film, it has been made with little regard for rational movie structure. In my opinion it is a genuine attempt at creating something that is a new way of depicting how life is sometimes experienced.

love the shit book of the dead dialogue sequence down the stairs to the club

yes, we do not see them committing the act of incest, but the film makes it clear that they have a rather sexually charged brother/sister relationship. describing it as "incestual" isn't off the mark. anyway, silly details. xpost.

I guess my real gripe was the manipulation Noé takes at every given turn - DEAD PARENTS! INCEST! CAR CRASH! - where the premise alone was really cool and unique. I wanted this transcendent experience, but the exploitative trickery just kind of ruined it for me. That said, it was visually stunning and I won't forget it any time soon.

really wish Noe would get someone to write him something cool. there's a lot of talent there, it's just weighed down by so much dumb.

by the time he was smash cutting from the naked mother in the bathtub to fucking the friend's mom i just wanted it to be over. i mean hoo boy.

If nothing else I've got to hand it to a film where the camera emerging from the womb is the most predictable ending

I thought this movie peaked at the Love Hotel sequence toward the end.

Just finished watching a #$%^ torrent of it on my %$*@ Acer but DAMN. Loved it.

If nothing else I've got to hand it to a film where the camera emerging from the womb is the most predictable ending

― Bangelo, Saturday, February 5, 2011 9:59 AM (5 months ago) Bookmark

lol

finally got around to watching this on netflix. really liked it. didn't drag for me at all.

funny how this and The Tree of Life are essentially bizarro anti-versions of each other.

I wanted this transcendent experience, but the exploitative trickery just kind of ruined it for me.

this movie isn't reaching for transcendence. it's really thumbing its nose at the idea of transcendence. it's about regression, if anything.

it's a big flashy dumb trip through a dying idiot's psyche.

One good thing about watching this at home is that at least you only have the back of one guy's head getting in the way the whole time.

Haha

this film is basically tree of life w more dmt and less dinosaurs

I've watched the opening credits like ten times but never made it more than 5 minutes into the movie itself.

Early discussion here Irreversible: C/D but now it seems this film will make its debut at Cannes next week. I reckon it'll be one of the cinematic events of the decade, and to say I'm excited is an understatement.

― sorry for british (country matters), Friday, May 8, 2009 11:15 PM (2 years ago)

lj was right

you do realise I still haven't seen it, nor do I particularly want to

no film's worth has travelled with such exquisite inversity to my advancing months as Irreversible's

hey elge

yah i remember u recanting on noé

ive not seen irreversible, i saw seul contre tous years ago and dont remember a lot about it other than it being a fairly impressive first feature with neat godardian intertitles and the glowering visage of the poujadist psycho protag

enter the void tho, is something else

the discourse around his films is dreadful, he alienates the right ppl but typecasts himself as a korine level idiot-visionary in the process

how do you make the credits -- is it in after effects?

couldn't get on board w enter the void. extremely impressive and well-crafted, a hell of a drug, but whether you take it as an embrace or a repudiation of mystical transcendentalism, it struck me as drivel. perhaps that just makes me "the right people"...

no, i would prefer that u liked it

dang

all of those boorish anglo empiricist EMPERORS NEW CLOTHES, PRETENTIOUS BLOODY OLD RUBBISH critics who insist on getting upset by trier haneke dumont etc are just the worst most tiresome idiots tho