Defend the Indefensible: films in which gorgeous, independent, "edgy" women have nothing better to do than break uptight whiny squares out of their bubbles

^^^ probably taking it a little far

Generally agree with wk and contenderizer.

See, I'm not sure these scenarios are that unrealistic or demeaning to the women. The guys do have issues but they're not hopeless failures or anything (and are generally attractive guys). The women are attractive but are not uber-successful or worldly or anything. It's a fantasy but these kinds of people and these kinds of situations happen all the time ime. (If anything, 'bad boy' fantasies are probably more questionable.) Scott Pilgrim is a musician who does cool gigs and stuff; Ramona Flowers is a delivery girl who seems to have some baggage of her own in any case. Tom and Summer work at the same place; Afaict, Tom is better-educated than he needs to be for the job and has been there longer. In both cases, the woman were new in the environment, didn't seem to have a major novel or small business on the go, and were probably glad for the company.

I mean, Scott's probably a way cooler date than some douchebag who'd hit on you at Sneaky Dee's.

manic pixie dream girl: the play

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/Silver-Linings-Playbook-Bradley-Cooper-Jennifer-Lawrence.jpg

How many examples are there of "Manic Pixie Dream Guy" in film? Maybe that should be a separate thread.

http://i-cdn.apartmenttherapy.com/ol-images/kitchen/uploads/clarence.jpg

the cat from outer space is a classic feline example too

― k¸ (darraghmac), Wednesday, September 8, 2010 1:42 PM (2 years ago)

thread should've ended here imo

Xpost lol

How many examples are there of "Manic Pixie Dream Guy" in film? Maybe that should be a separate thread.

― Cunga, Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:16 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Elias Koteas in Crash

loooooool

Mathieu Amalric in Kings and Queens
Ethan Hawke in the early nineties.

'Big'?

Yes, thanks.

great call on Big

Also "Elf", in the same way as "Big"...

And, hey, while we're at it: "It's a wonderful life"

Hawke was never a pixie. Grungy.

I think there's a broader device of "somewhat 2-d character whose sole role is to teach the main character a lesson/break the main character out of a rut," but too often this device is fulfilled either by a woman, a black person, an old man, a homeless guy, etc.

Waltz in django unchained

I suggested Big because a stuffy yuppy with a stuffy boyfriend meets a man/boy, makes her jump on a trampoline etc., leading her to change.

Trying to think of other Tom Hanks films. I don't think 'Joe Vs the Volcano' counts. Splash?

obi wan.

gandalf

Santa or Santa's son in at least three made-for-TV Christmas movies that I can't remember the name of.

Steve Guttenberg was in one of them.

I've seen a lot of v bad Christmas movies.

Drop Dead Fred

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/premium-rush-blu-ray-box-art.jpg

manic fixie dream guy

Trying to think of other Tom Hanks films. I don't think 'Joe Vs the Volcano' counts. Splash?

― the so-called socialista (dowd), Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:01 AM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark

larry crowne

philadelphia

saving private ryan

Forrest Gump

haha larry crowne is very manic pixie middle aged man yeah

Wait, how on earth can you argue that Splash is manic pixie dream guy? It's so bloody obviously mpd girl.

Bosom Buddies

Ace Ventura

That one where it starts off animated, then the princess gets 'banished' to real-world, meets guy with young daughter, prince follows her, etc. Lots of Central Park scenes..

my big fat greek wedding

john corbett is a mellow pixie dream boy in a lot of roles

that really bad peter sellers movie

being there!

Most of the work of Johnny Depp to thread.

.. "Enchanted", there you go.

Enchanted is so great tho

We're not knocking any of these films are we?

(sarcasm not intended.)

Wait, how on earth can you argue that Splash is manic pixie dream guy? It's so bloody obviously mpd girl.

Sorry, my mind wandered a bit. I was just wondering if TH had any other MPDX movies.

Ferris Buelller is your male pixie.

Oh, good choice. The odd thing is that the male pixies tend to be films from the male pixie pov, which isn't the case with female pixies. Of course, 'odd' depends on how you approach it, I guess.

FBDO is kind of a weird example. Even though Ferris is the "main character," it's actually Cameron that goes through the Screenwriting 101 character arc.

You could say that Christian Slater is the male pixie in Heathers.