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I hoped you taped it off TCM (4a.m.?). I think I've told the story of Lillian Gish introducing it at Radio City Music Hall 20 years ago...

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:03 (twenty years ago)

You got it. Re: LG at RC anecdote. Please refresh our memories.

Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:04 (twenty years ago)

She made a very short intro to the effect that the movie was called The Wind-DUHHHH, which is odd because you can't see the wind-DUHHHH!

and there were little old ladies with flowers waiting for her at the stage door.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:11 (twenty years ago)

Sunrise ws teh girlfriend's favourite movie. I am unsure if i prefer that or the last laugh.

jeffrey (johnson), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)

but i like both marginally more than nosferatu.

jeffrey (johnson), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...
anyone seen Victor Sjostrom's Phantom Carriage? playing at Lincoln Center tomorrow.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 October 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

Dr. Caligari in Houston with Live Accompaniment 2-nite and Sunday

http://www.mfah.org/main.asp?target=films&par1=1&par2=1&par3=685

Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Friday, 27 October 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...
Got "Broken Blossoms" and a trio of Fantômas films from lovefilm this week. Watched BB, "Fantômas" and "Juve contre Fantômas" last night. I remember seeing BB on CH4 in the eighties, finding the racial stereotyping grotesque, but nevertheless being drawn into the victorian penny-dreadful melodrama story. This time round the racist cariacaturing totally, totally grossed me out, and the story just struck me as being cruel to the point of sadism. The melodramatic cruelty in "Way down East" has the awesome payoff when Gish's character points the finger at Lennox - unbelievably great performance from Gish as she works herself up into a fury, wild eyes staring at the camera, I grabbed a couple of images when we had that one, she actually looks frightening. This time round, Gish's great performance is where she's locked in the cupboard, and her worthless no good turd of a father is breaking down the door, it's too horrible, too much. When she plays the death of the character, it's so realistic, it's disturbing. I didn't enjoy it at all. Gish's acting is great, and the sets are beautiful, but I hated everything else about it. Surely even at the time, some of this stuff must have been a bit much?

I remember seeing the clip from Fantômas, where Juve is looking into the corner of his room, and a spectral Fantômas appears, wearing a domino mask on TV years ago, and thinking, wow, that looks great, I've got to see that. The first film was somewhat primitive but nevertheless visually striking in lotsa places & v enjoyable. The second one much better storytellingwise. I was amazed at how hardass & amoral the story was, & just how much of a badass mother fucker Fantômas was! I especially liked the scene where Fantômas rips off the princess' money & jewels at the beginning, & he hands her his card, which is blank on both sides. After he leaves, she looks at the card and the word "Fantômas" appears on it & she freaks out. Also the model train in the second one, the street scenes in Paris, the special effect where Fantômas blows up the house at the end of the second film. Great, warped stuff, I thought.

Pashmina, Saturday, 17 March 2007 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

cant bring myself to watch a silent movie silent, I want the whole package; big screen, musicians and an MC.

My absolute favourite is Victor Sjöströms The Phantom Chariot (Körkarlen, 1921), with the fantastic new score by Matti Bye. Also Pabst´s Die Freudlose Gasse (1927, with Greta Garbo) is very enjoyable in a depressing way.

In the category silent, but not silent M wins.

jonperson, Saturday, 17 March 2007 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

WTF about M has anything to do with silent movies?

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 17 March 2007 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

M has more to do with silent movies than talkies, for sure.. sound is used a bit different due to limitations in sound recording; more as a score perhaps. And silent films never where silent anyways, so its just about in which way sound is incorporated, as I see it..

jonperson, Saturday, 17 March 2007 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

Incorporated by having long dialogue-heavy scenes and a key plot element that revolves around Lorre whistling "Hall of the Mountain King" you mean?

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 17 March 2007 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, well.. sound is used as a novelty, and its not really dialouge-driven is it? As a whole I think M relies on the silent stylistics in narration. It would work well without sound. Only thing is the whistling, and that could be in the score.. It would work I tell you. Its not a view I would write an essay on, but it holds in the forums..

jonperson, Saturday, 17 March 2007 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Okay I see what you're driving at, but I disagree. I think Lang's masterful in his use of sound in the movie. Schränker in particular is a character who would've been portrayed very differently in a silent.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 17 March 2007 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Yep, youre view is the common one, and i dont really disagree..

jonperson, Saturday, 17 March 2007 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
david brooks - carolyn and me[!] - camera as antagonist - trees and sky and snow and light as psychological cues

youn, Friday, 6 April 2007 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

On the way home last night, I picked up the 4DVD set of "Ben Hur" - the 1959 version takes up 2 DVDs(!), there is a "making of" DVD, the last DVD contains a restored version of the entire 1925 silent version. I watched a bit of it last night - there are a few scenes shot in 2-strip tyechnicolor, which are kind of kitschy-looking, but nevertheless, absolutley beautiful. The nativity scene near the beginning, w/Betty Bronson as Mary is just amazing to look at! This is the first 2-strip technicolor I've seen moving, now I've got to see some more - that early American cinema box set w/"Toll of the Sea" on it, apparently "Gold Diggers of Broadway" has it's surviving 2 reels tacked on as an extra on some 30's musical DVD?

Other things I noticed on the brief bit I watched last night were that there seemed to be a bit of bare breast flashage here and there (pre code, I suppose?) and that there seemed to be a lot of intertitles. I'll watch the whole film tonight or tomorrow night, I'm really looking forward to it.

Fuck if I'm going to watch the '59 version - I've seen it before, Charlton Heston is terrible, and it goes on forever and ever and ever. If I want to watch a 50's/60's Romanesque spectacle, "Spartacus" totally pwns "Ben Hur". The 4DVD set cost a tenner in HMV, so it's not exactly a rip off, is it.

Pashmina, Saturday, 14 April 2007 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

I also picked up "Pandora's Box" at the same time - I saw it in the late eighties/early nineties and thought it was OMG AWESOME at the time - I'm a little more jaundiced about it now, and was expecting not to be that keen on it - the whole "brooks cult" thing is a bit offputting, TBH, though I admit I do find her to be an incredibly fascinating character, & also undoubtedly the hottest actress ever, so it's understandable - I put it on, meaning to watch a couple of scenes from it, but I was surprised to be gripped by the story pretty quickly, I watched it all. Thoughts were/are:

1/Brooks' acting is weird - sometimes she's really hammy & quite frankly not that great, a lot of the time though, she seems like a real person who is surrounded by people who are acting, & she's responding unknowingly to the script they're reading from. Her performance in the bit where Dr Schön tries to get her to kill herself & she winds up shooting him is great & unfuckable with.

2/The ending is hateful to me, as I thought it would be. When I saw it before I was like all "wow, profound", this time round I was like "oh, FFS, give the poor girl a break" - for all Lulu's character is infuriating, it seems to me to be utterly undeserved & obnoxiously moralistic. I think a far better ending would have been to show Lulu several years down the line, in the exact same situation she's in at the beginning of the film, except she is now the mistress of a different sucker, and instead of Schigolch turning up, Alwa turns up, in the same dilapidated/seedy state.

Still, I think it's a pretty great film.


My friend who works in HMV (where I got the Ben Hur set) tells me that "Diary of a Lost Girl" is coming out on DVD in the UK soon, though he didn't know if it includes "Windy Riley goes to Hollywood", like the US version. He also reports that there is a DVD box of Lon Chaney films forthcoming, which will include a DVD of "The Unknown" Wow, man.

As the CC has now skipped over a month, I can afford to pick up a few DVDs - here is what I fancy:

1/Pola Negri in "The Woman he Scorned" - her last silent film (I think it's one of those "silent with music/fx soundtrack" things like "Sunrise"

”The Woman he Scorned” aka “The Way of Lost Souls”
DVD here

2/Pola Negri again, in "A Woman of the World", which sounds pretty fucking wild:

”A Woman of the World”(1925)

I imagine these are going to be transfers off 16mm reduction prints - I'll take what I can get, I guess. I've never seen a complete Pola film, only clips. She is kind of the archetypal silent movie star to me. The ones I'd really like to see are "three sinners", b/c she looks so cool w/her hair dyed blonde:

http://www.polanegri.com/lc_three_sinners_bw_4.jpg”>

...and

"The Garden of Eden", starring Corinne Griffith:

garden of eden

The clips, I thought, were very funny, although the visual humour can't help but come across as being slightly Benny Hill-ish. I especially liked Lowell Sherman playing the EXACT SAME CHARACTER that he plays in "Way Down East", except he plays it for laughs here.

Finally, Colleen Moore in "Ella Cinders"
http://www.reelclassicdvd.com/silent_era.htm

Frustratingly, the only Colleen Moore DVDs I seem to be able to get are either this (which I've seen before, albeit a long, long time ago, maybe even in the '70's!) Or her talkie version of "The Scarlet Letter", which I've also seen, and which is quite awful. Colleen Moore is interesting to me b/c she was a huge, huge star back in the late '20's, and she's completely forgotten now. A fair few of her popular films seem to have survived - Lilac Time, Irene, Orchids & Ermine (which I REALLY want to see) Her Wild Oat, Twinkletoes - all sporadically or non-available on DVD. Gah. I can't help obsessing over one of her lost films - "We Moderns", in which her character attends a wild jazz party held on a Zeppelin (!) - a plane crashes into the zeppelin, setting it on fire, and she barely escapes. To me, that sounds like the best film ever?

Anyway, enough rambling, I'll see if I can get some screen grabs of the color bits from "Ben Hur" over the w/e.

Pashmina, Saturday, 14 April 2007 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

POV books about silent films (from whatever approach -- history, theory, biography, technique, stills, whatever).

Casuistry, Saturday, 14 April 2007 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

Is that point-of-view, or do you want us to pick only 5?

The Parade's Gone By by Kevin Brownlow

Dr Morbius, Saturday, 14 April 2007 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

"Classics of the Silent Screen" "by" Joe Franklin (I think it was mostly written by Franklin's assistant in reality) is the one that kept my interest in the genre going over the years. It presents 50 American silent films listed chronologically, and the 75 "greatest" stars of American silent cinema. The films should all be viewable reasonably easily w/the exception of "A Kiss for Cinderella" (which exists, but in a pretty poor copy, apparently.) The sections on the stars is clever and sneaky in that many of them do not appear in films listed in the other section of the book, and many of the stills are from other films as well, some of which can be obtained, some of which are lost, sadly. So, it tends to get you even more interested in other silent films.

Pashmina, Sunday, 15 April 2007 10:54 (nineteen years ago)

PO5, then, if you will.

By the Joe Franklin?

Casuistry, Sunday, 15 April 2007 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Murnau's Phantom from 1922, recently restored by the people at Flicker Alley, looks really interesting. Also, if you can find it, John Ford's Four Son's, which is indebted to Murnau (actually uses the same set as Sunrise, although it is much more like The Last Laugh) is highly worthwhile.

http://www.flickeralley.com/images/home_34.jpg

mentalist, Monday, 16 April 2007 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

All of Flicker Alley's stuff looks really great to me, the Feuillade serial especially.

Someone has put up on YouTube, a clip from Norma Talmadge's notoriously bad, career-ending early talkie "dubarry: woman of passion"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MjdOJVi4Lw

It is AWFUL - so much worse than I ever imagined, far worse than Colleen Moore's version of "The Scarlet Letter", even. I suspect that anybody would have struggled with such leaden dialogue. Poor Norma, it makes me feel really sad :( I note that the archetypal problem of very early talkies - the microphones apparently weren't much cop, so everyone has to stand still, resulting in static tableaux - is very apparent here.

Also on Youtube is this '70's britishes tv interview w/little-old-lady gloria swanson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MjdOJVi4Lw

She's great! What an amazing star, I could probably listen to her talking about the old days like that for hours. In the clip of the old movie at the end, she's really annoying, but somehow also quite charming. Olivier: "who told you you could sing!" haha. It mentions in the Joe Franklin book that as soon as talkies came in, miss Swanson would always contrive to have at least one singing scene in every film she appeared in. I'd actually really like to see the film excerpted, it looks cute.

Pashmina, Monday, 16 April 2007 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

I interviewed the Joe Franklin in his famously discombobulated office when I was 17. Didn't seem the authorly type, but he knows/knew a lot about silent film.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 16 April 2007 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

Jill was a bit off colour last night & went to bed early, so I sat up and watched the 1925 "Ben Hur" spectacle all the way through. I was a bit alarmed at the 2hr22min running time, but in reality it only dragged in a few places. Downsides were that it beats you over the head a bit much w/the religiosity, even taking into account the fact that it's a bibical epic, that it's pretty much totally lacking in any humour, and that Francis X Bushman overdoes it quite a bit as Messala. If someone who had never seen a silent movie asked for a recommendation this sure as fuck wouldn't be it. W/o understanding the vocab of silent film acting, sitting through this, let alone enjoying it would be a real struggle. On the upside, May McAvoy is great as Esther, w/her sub-Mary Pickford curls and her expressive face, the backdrops and background models are fantastic - like Escher, Piranesi and Dore brought to life, the chariot race is really exciting (the sea battle is a bit of a mess though), the colour sequences are expertly deployed and hit like a bomb when yer watching it. Well worth a tenner, haha.

Pashmina, Saturday, 21 April 2007 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

I grabbed a bunch of pics, using VLC player:

Betty Bronson appears briefly as Mary. All she really does is sit there, pulling the mona-lisa face. She is unbelievably beautiful:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/03bronsonmary2.png

Early technicolor nativity scene:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/09nativity2.png
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/10nativity3.png

The mean old Romans mistreat the Jews, Pre-Hayes Code style:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/06meanoleromans2.png
The actress looks kind of wryly amused by this, going by the look on her face.

1st appearance of ramon navarro as ben hur. Easy on the eyeliner there. He's about 1,000,000 x better and 1,000,000,00 times hotter than Charlton Heston:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/07navarrobenhur1.png

Part of the Roman fleet - who needs CGI when you can actually build what you're supposed to be representing in yer film?

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/13triremes2.png

The most WTF moment of the film - the guy beating out time for the galley slaves aboard the trireme. It looks like something from one of Derek Jarman's period pieces! (poss NSFW if yer employers are uptight nazi assholes, like)
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/14galleyjarmanesque.png

Best exchange of the film - the ppl in the crows nests spot their opponents:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/15pirates.png
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/16pirates.png
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/17romans.png
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/18romans.png
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/19golthar.png




Ben Hur returns to Rome, a free man, his athletic prowess & strength gained during three years of pulling oars as a galley slave makes him a hero to the populace:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/22navarrobenhur2.png
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/24rome3.png
He looks a lot like Peter Cook in "Bedazzled", I think.

Great calligraphy on some of the intertitles, I'd love to get a font that looks like this
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/27typography.png

Ben Hur's mother and sister in the Roman dungeon. Very Gustave Dore-esque:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/28dungeon1.png

The roman arena at Antioch. Seamless use of hanging models. Awesome spectacle. Fuck CGI, heh:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/50arena4.png


May McEvoy as Esther, the "romantic interest". NB hairstyle ripped straight off Mary Pickford. She's really good
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/38estheranddad4.png
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/34esther2.png

The background models are great, they look like MC Escher or Piranesi etchings brought to life:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/30antioch1.png
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/31antioch2.png

Look at this backdrop! It looks like they just blew up a Gustave Doré etching:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/52lepervalley.png

Pashmina, Saturday, 21 April 2007 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

Pash, your YouTube links are the same, do you have the Swanson link?

Those stills are gorgeous.

Casuistry, Sunday, 22 April 2007 01:03 (nineteen years ago)

Oops. The Gloria clip is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcgZzL3vZyU

Pashmina, Sunday, 22 April 2007 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

& thanks! It's actually a lot of fun grabbing the screenshots. I was really pleased with the first one of May McEvoy looking into the camera.

Pashmina, Sunday, 22 April 2007 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

He's about 1,000,000 x better and 1,000,000,00 times hotter than Charlton Heston

Damning with faint praise.

Casuistry, Sunday, 22 April 2007 02:28 (nineteen years ago)

I saw the '25 version long ago. Ramon was hot indeed. Beaten to death in his old age, alas.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 23 April 2007 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

"A Woman of the World" Paramount 1925:
Chester Conklin and Pola Negri
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/vlcsnap-93613.png

"The Show Off" Paramount 1926
Louise Brooks, Ford Sterling, Gregory Kelly and Lois Wilson
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/vlcsnap-131198.png

They just moved some stuff around and hoped nobody would notice they used the same set, didn't they.

Pashmina, Friday, 27 April 2007 00:51 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

Anyone seen this Italian epic, prominently featured in Scorsese's Italian doc? I may go Monday at MoMA.

Cabiria. 1914. Italy. Written and directed by Giovanni Pastrone. With Bartolomeo Pagano, Umberto Moszato, Marcellina Bianco. In Carthage during the second Punic War, the Roman Fulvio Axilla and his faithful servant Maciste rescue the child Cabiria as she is about to be sacrificed to the god Moloch. World cinema's first great historical epic, restored to its original length and vibrant colors. English intertitles. Restored by the Museo Nazionale del Cinema, Turin, with the collaboration of MoMA. Silent, with organ accompaniment by Ben Model. Approx. 180 min.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

No, but they're playing Maciste at this year's San Francisco Silent Film Festival.

Michael White, Thursday, 7 June 2007 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Likeable (albiet somewhat chopped by the look of it) little 10 minute short from 1913, featuring none other than Pearl White:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6063104318913165236&q=%22pearl+white%22

She's pretty cute, an impression you don't get from seeing stills of her. I wonder if THE BARRYS got thrown out of their home as a result of her somnambulistic kleptomania?

Pashmina, Saturday, 23 June 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

Also, typing "hollywood brownlow" into google video's search box yields a good few hours great viewing.

Pashmina, Saturday, 23 June 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

Awesome, thanks for the tip! Cinema Europe: The Other Hollywood is pretty much required viewing.

Eric H., Saturday, 23 June 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

I think Cinema Europe must have been on TV during one of the times when we didn't own one. I don't remember it at all, but I'll watch it over the coming week.

The Hollywood series I remember really vividly. There's probably a bunch of people aroundabout my age who's interest in silent films was brought about by watching this series.

On the ones I've watched, the sound has an annoying tendency to slip out of sync 1/2 way through, but it's still watchable. The section on John Gilbert is heartbreakingly sad, poor fucking guy. Old lady Louise Brooks in the section on Clara Bow has a weird magnetism about her, it's easy to see how she wrapped k tynan around her little finger, she is such a fascinating character. Lack of vintage Leatrice Joy or Norma Talmadge footage is frustrating, but I haven't watched all the parts yet.

Highlight is that clip from "the fire brigade" in the 1st episode, it's so thrilling!

Pashmina, Saturday, 23 June 2007 23:32 (eighteen years ago)

Also holy shit! Colleen Moore!

Pashmina, Saturday, 23 June 2007 23:35 (eighteen years ago)

I must have watched that clip from "the fire brigade" about 20 times over the weekend. It has the same effect on me as the helicopter attack sequence from " Apocalypse Now". I can't believe how exciting it is.

Apparently "Hollywood" briefly came out on DVD in the UK, before getting pulled over a copyright dispute. So pathetic! "lets take all these films that like less than 1 on 10,000 people have even the faintest interest in anyway, and restrict access to them" WTF.

Also, I'm curious about the brief bit you see in the credits between the bit of garbo and gilbert dancing and the bit from "wings" - it looks like Pola Negri - from "Gypsy Blood"?

Pashmina, Monday, 25 June 2007 11:43 (eighteen years ago)

It'd be so nice to be able to watch this stuff. :(

Restored print of Griffith's Way Down East playing July 20 in NYC:

http://www.filmlinc.com/wrt/onsale/gswaydowneast.html

Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:13 (eighteen years ago)

The Passion of Joan of Arc is captivating. Falconetti = w0ah!

-- Leee (Leee), Friday, December 6, 2002 6:07 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

^^^^^^ this is true

god, her expression. Completely rapturous and sad.

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:52 (eighteen years ago)

It'd be so nice to be able to watch this stuff. :(

Wouldn't it just. It is SO frustrating. Bad enough that you have yr own personal list of lost titles you'd love to be able see for whatever reason, there's the stuff that does exist, that is unavailable to view - Borzage's "Secrets" and "The Lady", feat. Norma Talmadge, for example, then there's a bunch of titles that get exhibited at festivals from time to time, like that "The Fire Brigade" Or "The Lilac Time" w/Colleen Moore & Gary Cooper, or many others that if I could get on a nicely-presented DVD, w/a decent score, I'd happily pay over the odds for. So annoying.

I just ordered Mauritz Stiller's "Hotel Imperial" feat. Pola Negri and a copy of "Norma Talmadge double bill #1" on DVD-R from Grapevine. You take what you can get, I suppose. the Pola Negri Paramount comedy that I bought from them the other month wasn't the best transfer I've seen by a long way, but it was watchable, very enjoyable, and the compiled score was pretty cleverly done & effective. "Hotel Imperial" is supposedly one of their best transfers.

I love "Way Down East", def one of my favourites. Lowell Sherman is great.

Pashmina, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

well, I specifically meant online video, which is banned at work (and I'm a Luddite at home).

Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

Hahaha oops. You know what I mean though, I'm sure.

Pashmina, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

MoMA is showing a bunch o' Griffith this month, including 1908-13 Biograph shorts tonight.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 5 July 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

I got the package from Grapevine yesterday, & watched some of it last night. I got a Norma Talmadge double bill, featuring "The Social Secretary" (1916) and "The Forbidden City" (1918), "Beggars of Life" featuring Richard Arlen, Louise Brooks and Wallace Beery, and "Hotel Imperial", dir Mauritz Stiller, featuring Pola Negri. I watched a bit of all 4 titles, then watched all of "The Social Secretary" and half of "Beggars of Life". Given that Grapevine is a "PD" company, I guess w/o much in the way of budget, the image quality on all 3 DVDs was acceptable. Dude who runs Grapevine seems to be pretty adept at doing compiled scores as well. "Beggars of Life" has pretty bad image quality, I've read in a few places that only one print of this film has survived, and that print is a pretty poor 16mm reduction in beat-up condition. It's a pity it's not better, because the bit of this film that I watched was really outstanding. The opening sequence, in which Richard Arlen's hobo knocks on the door of a farmhouse, begging for some breakfast, enters the house, only to find the farmer dead, then finds the farmer's adopted daughter, and she recounts how she'd shot him after he sexually molested her was tough & rugged & brilliantly done. I'll watch the rest tonight, and if it keeps up this level, it's got to be one of the best films I've seen. Trawling through alt.movies.silent, it seems that there was a good print of this at some point that got loaned out to a european film festival, and wasn't returned/lost. Wouldn't it be great if it turned up.

One of the things that interests me the most about silent films is these actresses who were massive stars & loved by moviegoers in the '20's, but who are just totally forgotten and ultra-obscure today. Colleen Moore, Corinne Griffith & Norma Talmadge. Talmadge especially because there's a couple of interesting/intriguing backstories - her appearance, the absolute epitome of sophisticated '20's glam, contrasted with her supposed rough upbringing and alleged
harsh Brooklyn accent IRL (which she supposedly managed to hide in her talkies), and also the fact that there's a good proportion of her ouvre that survives mainly complete in decent condition, but which is unviewable(IE almost no DVDs or exhibition prints), unless you book a special viewing session at the LoC.
This site is also responsible for making me more interested. The site author is very enthusiastic about her films, but not uncritically so.
I watched "The Social Secretary" w/great interest & enjoyed it loads. Being from 1916, it has the more direct/simple style of storytelling, and seems much more archaic that "Beggars of Life" or other films from the '20's, this effect magnified by the older-fashioned clothes the players wore. The story (a farce written by Anita Loos) was charming and pretty funny in places. Norma plays Mayme, a temp secretary who's employers all get the hots for her, they keep trying it on w/her, but she's a virtuous girl, and she quits. She then goes back to the female stenographers club (!!) where she hangs out, and shares her woes w/her comrades there. At the same time, a wealthy old lady gets frustrated because all of her social secretaries keep leaving to get married, so she places an ad for a new one, stating that the place is only open to those "extremely unattractive to men". Norma/Mayme sees the ad, combs her hair back tight, wears a pair of thick-rimmed glasses, adopts a dorky/stern-looking expression and gets the job. Rich old lady's daughter is a head-in-the-clouds romantic, who wears so much kohl round her eyes that she looks really fucked up on drugs. The son, Jimmie, is a raving alcoholic. One night Jimmie comes home ripped to the gills. He drops his key, so he has to break a window to get in the house. Mother hears this, you see a title card "oh there's Jimmie, inebriated again" and she goes back to sleep. Norma/Mayme hears it, assumes it's burglars, goes downstairs and beams Jimmie over the head with a vase of lilies. Thus does Jimmie find out that Mayme is actually pretty cuet. They start dating and Jimmie straightens himself out, at the same time as the daughter starts dating one of Mayme's old short-term employers who is clearly a BAD SORT. To add to the trouble, a reporter starts snooping round, the reporter played by Erich Von Stroheim, believe it or not (he hams it up a bit). It all turns out OK in the end. Norma is pretty impressive, she does the telling the story with eyes and facial expressions thing very well, quite subtly, and only overdoes it a few times. Despite wearing some terrible-looking clothes (she also dresses down to get the social secretary job) she looks great too, although in a real old-fashioned way. You could probably drop Louise Brooks or Leatrice Joy into a modern idiom, and they wouldn't look out of place, not so Norma.

The other film, "The Forbidden City", I watched a bit of, but it totally sucked. It was a madame butterfly-ish "east meets west" (cough) piece, somewhat racially awkward to say the least in this day & age, w/Norma looking utterly ridiculous made up to look like a Chinese woman. The title cards looked nice is about the best I can say about it.

Now I want to see "Secrets", "The Lady", "Smilin' Through" and so on all the more. Bummer.

I'll watch the Stiller/Pola Negri film tonight, most likely.

Pashmina, Friday, 6 July 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

wow.

At MoMA, Henry B. Walthall, Harry Carey (Sr) and Griffith himself all got someone to applaud when they appeared onscreen.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 6 July 2007 13:36 (eighteen years ago)

via Dave Kehr's blog:

The good people at the National Film Preservation Foundation have taken the occasion of tonight’s opening of the San Francisco Silent Film Festival to unveil the contents of the third box set in the ongoing “Treasures from American Film Archives” series. Titled “Treasures III: Social Issues in American Film, 1900-1934,” the collection consists of 48 films from a time when movies were actively engaged with the world around them, rather than marshalling all available technology to deny it (no, I still haven’t seen “Transformers”). Four features are included: Cecil B. De Mille’s delirious melodrama “The Godless Girl” (1929), with Lina Basquette as a defiant young athiest (if memory serves, she is the president of her high school’s Young Athiest Club) who changes her tune when she finds herself behind bars in a juvenile prison; Victor Schertzinger’s “Redskin,” a two-color Technicolor feature from 1929 with Richard Dix as a Navajo who discovers the limits of assimilation; Lois Weber’s forthright pro-choice drama of 1916, “Where Are My Children?”; and one that is new to me, William Desmond Taylor’s 1920 “The Soul of Youth,” apparently the first film about male prostitution.

http://davekehr.com/?p=207

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)


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