Why I hate the Daily Mail, as distilled into one edition

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Drakes? Rakes morelikeamirite?

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Monday, 24 January 2011 12:44 (fifteen years ago)

In geography, for example, they will be told to consider why homosexuals move from the ­countryside to cities.

to escape small-minded prejudice perhaps? (not to diss those who live in the countryside blanket-style)

― chev rivera (stevie), Monday, January 24, 2011 12:34 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

"to escape small-minded prejudice" is otm.

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Monday, 24 January 2011 12:51 (fifteen years ago)

Funnily enough, heteroseuxals do that too

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Monday, 24 January 2011 12:53 (fifteen years ago)

i wish twitter would stfu about the daily mail though. you know, what bothers me way more than the mail's trolling/idiocy (and this is MELANIE PHILLIPS we know what she's like already, albeit not in a remotely entertaining carcrash way à la liz jones) - is the fact that there's obviously a substantial audience for this shit, who already believe the bigotry that the mail just echoes back at them. in our lefty bubbles it's really easy to get all outraged for a day or two about this and ignore the fact that most of the country thinks like this.

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Monday, 24 January 2011 12:54 (fifteen years ago)

run away turn away run away iirc xps

zvookster, Monday, 24 January 2011 12:55 (fifteen years ago)

idk i think the point of twitter is that it spreads out publicly rather than staying in lefty bubbles kinda

zvookster, Monday, 24 January 2011 12:57 (fifteen years ago)

i mean it's a voice protesting publicly of some sort, not sure abt efficacy or whatever

zvookster, Monday, 24 January 2011 12:58 (fifteen years ago)

the point of twitter seems to be more about people being have-a-go comedians and making terrible "jokes" at times like these

STOP TRYING TO BE FUNNY. THIS APPLIES TO EVERYONE, EVERYWHERE.

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:01 (fifteen years ago)

You're no fun anymore

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:02 (fifteen years ago)

i laughed @ that, it was like some mirrors within mirrors paradox

zvookster, Monday, 24 January 2011 13:03 (fifteen years ago)

thinking some needs to start a 'lex tells jokes' thread

travel by railchoad (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:04 (fifteen years ago)

THAT WASN'T A JOKE

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:05 (fifteen years ago)

i am ACTUALLY crossing my arms and pursing my lips in DISAPPROVAL

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:06 (fifteen years ago)

You're funny in spite of yourself

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:06 (fifteen years ago)

no shit, funny boy

travel by railchoad (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:07 (fifteen years ago)

lexinor funby

travel by railchoad (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:07 (fifteen years ago)

I can believe it. My niece's state schooling was ruined by political correctness — for example, at age 7, being asked to do a project on the life and music of Bob Marley (who'd been dead for 20 years) when she and most of her peers liked the Spice Girls. Exactly which part of the curriculum this vanity project fitted is still a mystery

Stonewall is dedicated to the destruction of hetrosexual family life

I really do fear for the future of my little Grandsons in this sick society

Some top quality comments from the link

o0o00h really? (boxedjoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:23 (fifteen years ago)

lol i came here to post that damn you

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 24 January 2011 13:23 (fifteen years ago)

#eleanorrigby trending on Twitter. Oh wait I'M ONLY JOKING. Oh wait I'm not joking, I'm, er, lying...

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:31 (fifteen years ago)

or something

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:31 (fifteen years ago)

As you were, people.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:32 (fifteen years ago)

My niece's state schooling was ruined by political correctness — for example, at age 7, being asked to do a project on the life and music of Bob Marley (who'd been dead for 20 years) when she and most of her peers liked the Spice Girls.

Marcello?

nothing tastes as good as zingy feels (DJ Mencap), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:37 (fifteen years ago)

How dare those bolshevik state schools try and make children learn about things outside of their immediate experiences and interests!

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:40 (fifteen years ago)

Seems wrong to single out individual bits of the article TBH, but this made me raise a quizzical eyebrow:

As the old joke has it, what was once impermissible first becomes tolerated and then becomes mandatory.

Hah hah .... huh?

Neil S, Monday, 24 January 2011 13:45 (fifteen years ago)

it'd be derek bailey instead xxp

Jefferson Mansplain (DG), Monday, 24 January 2011 13:47 (fifteen years ago)

xpost yeah, old Bernard Manning had 'em in the aisles with that one.

Mark G, Monday, 24 January 2011 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

My niece's state schooling was ruined by political correctness — for example, at age 7, being asked to do a project on the life and music of Bob Marley (who'd been dead for 20 years) when she and most of her peers liked the Spice Girls.

YEAH! MY SCHOOL MADE ME READ SHAKESPEARE WHEN I'D RATHER HAVE BEEN READING, um, some contemporary children's author or something! DAMN THEM AND THEIR OBSESSION WITH, er, LEARNING STUFF AND RESEARCHING AND THINGS!

ailsa, Monday, 24 January 2011 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

Shakespeare's sexuality a bit dubious too?

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:11 (fifteen years ago)

Wilma Shakespeare?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 24 January 2011 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

Spice Girls obviously paragons of virtue though. xpost

ailsa, Monday, 24 January 2011 15:21 (fifteen years ago)

+ wore a union jack flag
- there was a black one

supply 'n d-man (a hoy hoy), Monday, 24 January 2011 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

Single mothers! *grabs pitchfork*

ailsa, Monday, 24 January 2011 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

Now is not the time for your review.

Mark G, Monday, 24 January 2011 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

lex otm re Twitter faux-comedians. Also, giving this shit attention/hits via Twitter just gives the DM Trust additional incentive to exist. Surely a good portion of the site's activity is purely non-bigots just going there and staring in disbelief.

Balls is significantly to the left of Brown (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 24 January 2011 20:51 (fifteen years ago)

There's something profoundly depressing about this one

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 11:10 (fifteen years ago)

^^^^^^^^^^^something everyone should read imo.

if there is a King Kenny, apparently he is huge into slapstick. (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 11:35 (fifteen years ago)

it's the mail, what do people expect ffs

Jefferson Mansplain (DG), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 13:37 (fifteen years ago)

Yes, all v. depressing but not at all surprising, as a PR woman I can't beleive she didn't see through their ruse?
And this little nugget of information just made me ever more depressed...

Who's Chairman of the Editors' Code of Practice Committee at the PPC?
http://www.pcc.org.uk/about/whoswho/committee.html

Very hollow LOL.

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 13:48 (fifteen years ago)

as a PR woman I can't beleive she didn't see through their ruse?

Some might be of the opinion that, working in PR, I knew the game and how it worked and that by putting myself forward to appear in a national newspaper, I too deserved everything I got. But my speciality at the time was business to business PR – writing case studies about wonderful things IT companies did and then getting them placed in the trade press. Everything I wrote was – and still is - backed up with statistics and evidence, and then sent to my interviewee to confirm that I’d quoted him/her correctly and in the right context. I’d never have dreamt of paraphrasing or using artistic licence – I was of the opinion that if I had to start making bits of the story up, then I didn’t really have a story.

emil.y, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 13:50 (fifteen years ago)

i dont work in PR and somehow i know the mail are evil bastards

Jefferson Mansplain (DG), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 13:54 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, my sympathy expired round about the time she agreed to talk to a Mail journo.

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 14:15 (fifteen years ago)

think the actual level of detail she goes into is what makes it noteworthy, rather than it being a scales-falling-from-eyes job (or not)

Rogaine's a hell of a rug (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 14:21 (fifteen years ago)

not really

Jefferson Mansplain (DG), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 14:24 (fifteen years ago)

I think people might expect their quotes to be taken out of context or given an unwanted spin, but not for them to be completely made up.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 14:25 (fifteen years ago)

Again, if by people you mean tribal elders from previously undiscovered South Pacific peoples with no previous contact with European civilization, I wd agree.

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

Given that much of the UK believe what they read in the Mail there would appear to be a lot of tribal elders from previously undiscovered South Pacific peoples living in this country.*

*Taking our jobs etc etc

Matt DC, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 14:28 (fifteen years ago)

eh well it was kinda interesting to me to have it set out scene by scene as it were - assume she's not the first person ever to exhaustively detail being dicked over by the DM but I don't recall reading any first-hand accounts

Rogaine's a hell of a rug (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 14:29 (fifteen years ago)

I agree that a lot of people "believe" what they read in the Mail but I think that opens up a fascinating field of knowledge re: what we mean when we talk about belief. Do they believe it in the same way as they believe in gravity or the fidelity of their significant others or in their own innate superiority to people who aren't them? I think belief is a rubbery concept here maybe.

Y Kant Torres Red (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 14:31 (fifteen years ago)

I think people might expect their quotes to be taken out of context or given an unwanted spin, but not for them to be completely made up.

...and put into a completely different kind of piece than what you'd been told. idk even assuming that the mail will dick you over and twist your words wherever possible, this seems particularly egregious.

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 14:32 (fifteen years ago)

... and I'll bet you the DM thought they were giving her an 'interesting/fab' makeover!

Mark G, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 14:36 (fifteen years ago)


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