Peep Show (now with added Mitchell & Webb Look)

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Everyone thinks things they shouldn't/don't even mean, what's funny about this show is that they generally go ahead and broadcast them...

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Saturday, 26 November 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

Yes. Good. It is Alan in his suit and tie who is disturbed for not having such thoughts.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 26 November 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

i missed ep 2. last night's was transcendently brilliant. "and now i'm standing here, tripping my nuts off, watching you do ... endless poos!"

the whole dynamic does appear to be changing, though: whereas it used to be about two very different but equally tragic people, mark now seems to be presented as a *slightly* more sympathetic character ... probably simply because jez is becoming alarmingly psychotic.

either way: glorious, glorious stuff. i should track down episode 2 somewhere, i suppose. or just wait for the DVD :)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 26 November 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

the flat where they live (although that seems to be different in this series)

It *is* different - this series is the first one where they've used a studio set for their flat, rather than shooting on location. Apparently, the people who actually lived there were getting a bit bored of it all.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 26 November 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

-We're going to smash through the doors of perception and see all the things that you don't normally see, cause-

-Cause they're not really there?

-No, they are really there but we don't normally see them cause we're distracted by all the-

-Things that are really there?

...marvellous

― Zora (Zora), Sunday, 27 November 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)

I kiss you.

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Sunday, 27 November 2005 02:24 (twenty years ago)

I'd like to know quite what the Pinefox means by its being 'trendy', exactly?

― Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 27 November 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

yeah, it seems the opposite of trendy, really! i loved it. i loved last week's too.

― N_RQ, Monday, 28 November 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

Trendy (perhaps) = it's stuffed with sexual and drug references and "Why does it have to be so rude?"

I sort of know what he means. But I also don't.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

mm, certainly eps 2 and 3 fit this profile (although this last ep was very much 'the jeremy show'). but in ep 1 i almost thought they'd made mark too much of a fuck-up -- the whole sex-angst thing might've gone too far.

xpost

the show is obsessed with poo, it must be said.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Poop Show ?

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

i think this episode really got brilliant when johnson showed up.

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

Mike's 2nd paragraph could be spoken by Morrissey!

Perhaps he is right about what I meant. But also, the very fact that everyone on this thread likes the programme so much might also suggest that it is trendy. I don't mean that everyone on the thread is trendy, at least not as an insult.

I think it is something about the tone - so perhaps 'rudeness' in some sense, or more than one - 'nastiness' or 'brutality' among them - is indeed relevant.

It feels also like a programme keen to be up to the minute somehow, or to express or represent a contemporary attitude or life.

― the bellefox, Monday, 28 November 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

i'm not sure if that's a bad thing.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

Le quote (pinefox sai): "I think it is something about the tone - so perhaps 'rudeness' in some sense, or more than one - 'nastiness' or 'brutality' among them - is indeed relevant."

But but but... if you summed this show up as 'rude', 'brutal' and 'nasty', you'd be way off course. Whilst I can't find anything specifically nice about it / the characters, there's something there that's warm and engaging. Perhaps you mean that the rude-brutal-nastiness is a contemporary veneer over a warm-heart-of-British-comedy core? Or have I misunderstood (it happen)?

― Zora (Zora), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

No, I don't see or feel any warm core, just a chill and sometimes witty wind.

― the bellefox, Monday, 28 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

this hasnt been as funny as i thought it would be after episode 2, its seeming a bit more sinister and just plain cruel, esp in regard to jez. when johnson turned up last week though, that really was genius.

― okok, Monday, 28 November 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

I've only been and off viewer of Peep Show since it started, but the two or three appearances of Johnson I've seen have all been hilarious. He's a great character.

Warm core. Hmm... no I think I see one either. I suppose, one could say that at its heart lies a kind of commiseration of self-loathing squalid souls. But that would be stretching the point a bit.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

I saw this by accident a year ago and never thought it would turn up again -- too loose-limbed and fast and personal and funny to ever end up as a regular series, but here we are. I like it. I think it's "trendy" insofar as it's using a lot of the same tricks as "Curb Your Enthusiasm," which was, or felt like, a very new kind of show. Main one being, when a main character has a decision to make, he or she will always make the worst one he or she is capable of at the time.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

I have heard the name of that programme, but never seen it.

Is it on, in Britain?

N. is probably right, in his last paragraph.

― the bellefox, Monday, 28 November 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

friday nights, pinefox, channel 4, 10pm; repeated on E4 at midnight on the following monday (ie tonight!).

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

What or who is it about?

― the bellefox, Monday, 28 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Two loser flatmates and their largely inconsequential (but fucked up, in a peculiarly pathetic way) escapades. When on form it really is as great as everyone here is saying.

― Cracks (Crackity), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

He's asking about Curb Your Enthusiasm. It's about Larry David, the co-creator of Seinfeld, living his life in LA. He plays himself. He's neurotic and lost and grouchy.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

i think Curb' is pretty funny, I watched it only recently for the first time and I lol'd quite a lot. and Alba, ah ha that would explain the Seinfeld gags that I found peculiar

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

One formal diff between the two shows is that I doubt much, if any, of PS is improvised (CYE is famous for only the situation being agreed on in advance, rather than the words) which I think gives it a sharper performative bite. Both shows have a knack of thrusting enormous stakes onto their characters from out of nowhere.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

Oh, sorry. (xxpost)

― Cracks (Crackity), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

Crikey, everyone here seemed to really like the last episode, which I thought was really pretty feeble (the only bit I laughed out loud at was Mark's "Not in my name" speech). Too much of Jeremy in this episode. Superhans is always amusing. I like how Big Suze really is Big... but then I just like Big Suze full stop.

― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

i didn't enjoy last week's half as much as the one the week before.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

big suze is lovely

― okoko, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

finally saw ep3 last night, and i'm in two minds about it. i loved jez's whole "look at me, talking to a builder!" schtick, and the word "Jeremism" made me cackle, but I thought the scatological ending was dull and lazy, and the drug stuff was awful.

still, "when was the last time sophie sent *you* a template? FUCKFACE!" = teh genius.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

what happened to mark's girlfriend? and the crazy woman? and the deed to the pub? does this show just start over from scratch each time?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

mark's girlfriend sophie is in brighton on business.

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

bristol, but yeah.

and presumably the mad girl's still in hospital? and the pub's still hers since she handed over the deeds while clearly deranged?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

brighton/bristol, same shit

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

more to the point, what's happened to Jez's American wife?

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

and presumably the mad girl's still in hospital? and the pub's still hers since she handed over the deeds while clearly deranged?

Yes, it's disappointing they didn't refer back to that. I want to see Jeremy and Superhans running the pub.

Also, what are the odds that Sophie has been seeing Jeff again? I have a sneaking suspicion that she went back to him when she thought Mark was sleeping around, hence the slightly guilty behaviour(and Jeff's comments) later on. This is all pure speculation, of course.

― Philip Alderman (Phil A), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

sophie's not in bristol at all. she's on an island with polar bears and mysterious hatches and oh wait.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

Blimey, I just saw gez and mark on des and mel! MAINSTREAM!

― JimD (JimD), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

and the consensus on tonight's episode?

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

I liked it a lot. But then I always like it a lot.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

I loved it.

But I wish jel hadn't pointed out jez and mark's teeth problems, as I'm really noticing it a lot myself now.

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)

The second half veered towards gervais-like comedy of embarrassment territory. But it was still funny enough for that to be ok.

I quite fancy big suze too.

― JimD (JimD), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

Yes - for a moment there I thought I was going to be in the ridiculous position of being jealous of Mark's sex life....

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Friday, 2 December 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

"Salad and a Hawksmoor church." Awesome.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Sunday, 4 December 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

big suze is fucking hot.

― cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 4 December 2005 02:29 (twenty years ago)

she's a daftee though!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 04:30 (twenty years ago)

this show is so depressing.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 4 December 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)

bad too.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 4 December 2005 08:24 (twenty years ago)

no, it's good.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 5 December 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

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