ILX running running thread

u hug other runners

I haven't listened to music on my last 34 runs. I stopped so I can put my total concentration on my form and cadence.

I run with water in the winter, because you should still hydrate. Just a handheld.

I don't say high to other runners. In the summer there is just too many, and in the winter I just hate people.

The main guy in the Running the Sahara documentary was an ex addict. Kicked it and became totally obsessed with running and is a real asshole about it. Now he's going to prison for mortgage fraud. It all makes sense.

Speaking of running movies, saw the premier of the Hood to Coast doc last week. Fantastic. I hope I'm healthy enough to run a crazy relay one day.

find podcasts are the best material for running, don't fuck with your rhythm too much and you can get sufficiently /involved/ to forget the pain. between in our time and football weekly, that's three 40 min runs a week which is ideal for my needs

that running the sahara guy was the worst wasnt he

felt bad for the one chill bro who wanted to quit, prob just couldnt stand the other two

Right! Dude didn't want to run across the desert! No big deal!

xpost. I ran Hood to Coast a couple of years ago and hope to do so again this year. It was a blast. Nothing quite like running on a gravel logging road in the Oregon Coast range at three in the morning.

A team that I had a chance to join tried for this years lottery, but didn't get in. I don't think I would have been ready by then anyway. Six or seven miles 3 times is no problem. Problem is that as soon as I run and then stop, my it band tightens up beyond comprehension and I'm out until at least a day later. It would be easier for me to run 18 miles in one fell swoop rather than with several hour breaks in between.

woah, that looks awesome (hood to coast).

that running the sahara guy was the worst wasnt he

nah, he's a really nice guy, actually!

Uh, disagree. At least from the way he's portrayed on screen and from everything I've read about the dude.

He also lives in Greensboro, NC which is a moral failing in itself.

totally gonna watch this doc

its pretty terrible, the whole steez

Resurrecting yesterday's conversation: There's lots of discussion of fluid intake, its effects on performance and the many misconceptions about hydration over at the excellent Sports Scientists blog. A sample of their conclusions:

Therefore it is not the fluid you ingest that keeps you cool, but as we have written here before it is your metabolic rate, or how hard you are exercising, that really predicts your core temperature during exercise. Do not mistake what I am saying here, though---fluid plays a role, but only a very small one, and more importantly when we permit athletes to pace themselves they just slow down in the trials where they do not drink or receive very small volumes of fluid. The result is that they reach the same core temperature at the end of the time trial, but take a little longer to finish.

For me the bigger message is that if performance is a desired outcome, if the runner wants to go as fast as they can, then they should drink to thirst. Ingesting volumes that are larger than that have not been shown to produce faster performance times. If performance is not important, the evidence from where I am sitting tells me that ignoring thirst and/or ingesting very small volumes of fluid will result in a miserable day out, but will not cause you to get heat stroke or collapse---two conditions that result from mechanisms other than changes in fluid balance.

Personally, I try to keep well-hydrated during the day and don't take on any more fluid while running - unless I'm racing in warm temperatures. The caveat to all this is that I live in the UK; it's rarely too hot to run comfortably, and "warm temperatures" in a racing context means anything above 20 degrees Celsius.

its weird when i play basketball i get hella thirsty, when i run i do not, im pretty careful to hydrate before each too - prob has something to do w/the difference between fast burst type exercise and slow steady

oh fuck everything. thought a fortnight's hiatus from running would be enough to recover from tendonitis - hadn't had so much as a twinge of pain for 10 days. barely got a mile in before it came back and i had to limp home. advice? am i going to have to see a doctor? because i now i have no idea how long to rest it for...

also i meant to get a knee support but the range did my head in. can someone just pick one of these for me? http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dsports&field-keywords=knee+support&x=0&y=0 i don't know how cheap is adequate, basically.

also, what cardio can i do instead of running with my knee out of action? my body feels like it's going stir crazy here. (i don't have a gym membership - that's partly why i go running)

look into water running (seriously) - works the same muscles and will keep you in good shape, but has no impact force

full disclosure: you have to wear one of these

http://www.accreditedtrainingcompany.com.au/img-upload/deep_water_running_belt.jpg

ha that doesn't look bad at all.

also suggested on twitter: yoga, burpees, trampolining. have always wanted to try yoga so might sign up, but burpees seem the easiest to do w/o, y'know, having to leave my house and trek to a gym.

any advice on the actual tendonitis? i really want to know how long i'll have to rest it for to make it actually go away.

Where is the tendinitis again?

right knee

clarification: is it on the outside of yr knee, or underneath/beneath yr kneecap?

i *think* it's beneath the kneecap but it literally only hurts when i'm actually running (and in the aftermath if i put weight on it). sitting still now, no pain.

hmmmmmmmmmm

Under the knee would indicate Patellar tendinitis. I had that back when I started running 3 years ago. Custom orthotics probably resolved that for me. Or at least there was a correlation of when I got them.

I've also read that you should strengthen your quads.

you can get custom orthotics in any running store, right? is that the same thing as customised running shoes? i guess they'll be able to advise how long it'll be before i can run at all, too.

Custom ones where they take a cast of your feet come from a doc, most likely a podiatrist. Also, not cheap if your med insurance doesn't cover them.

You can get insoles like Superfeet in running stores. I wear those in my every day shoes.

yeah i just googled - NOT cheap O_O

i have no idea whether i'd be able to get them on the NHS though. i guess it's a doc appointment next for me then. sigh, i really hoped this problem would go away by itself.

any advice on knee support btw? the range available is really confusing me - seems like you can get them for anything between £4 to £30.

You can get insoles like Superfeet in running stores. I wear those in my every day shoes.

superfeet are good. i'd also check out powerstep

I haven't had much experience with knee support. If probably start with the one that is just a strap beneath your knee.

Serpentine AC have a good directory of reputable physios and podiatrists in London: http://www.serpentine.org.uk/pages/advice_health.html

It's always important to find a physio who knows something about running and isn't just going to tell you to take three months off.

Just ran 10.8 miles this morning, went with friends so we pushed each other a bit more. Legs ache but I am so pleased with it. I LOVE RUNNING.

jeezo! well done, R.

I went about 3 miles today, strangely thrilling in the sub zero foggy weather. I'm going a bit ahead of the plan La Lechera linked me to, not that i'm pushing myself too hard just that I'm enjoying it and it's kinda boring to walk half of it. I don't think I'm doing too much atm.

Just did 10 miles myself...no epiphany to speak of, but I'm slowly getting back into racing shape.

it's 24º and i have lost motivation :(

my sidewalks are covered in sheets of ice and i can't run outside, so i have lost my mojo as well. i only missed one day this week, but i feel like such a sloth.

:(

yall behold the forecast for my current location - havent been out for a couple days due to feeling under the weather - feeling sort of better but doesnt look like ill be running til at least tuesday

http://grab.by/8wLo

My last two runs have been sub 15 degrees. It's not bad at all with the proper tights/top/wind breaker. Mt fingers get the coldest. I need to pick up some hand warmers.

yeah i generally draw the line at single digits, dont think ive ever been out in sub zero

Average temperature of my Dec/Jan runs: 26.35 degrees.

I do wish it was warmer. Warmer is nicer.

thought u lived in l.a.

other jeff!

Jeff vs. jeff

lmao ok im registering sock puppet accounts for everyone via using trick capitalization

I would consider a winter home in LA.

I know there aren't a lot of North Americans on this thread, but tonight I saw the ESPN "30 for 30" doc about Terry Fox ... nothing makes you feel lazy and unmotivated like a documentary about a cancer survivor who ran a marathon every day for months ON ONE LEG.

nice little photo exhibition -- 100 mile runners at the finish line

http://www.flickr.com/photos/larrygassan/sets/72157625283244363

they look zoned