"The Wire" on HBO

I also met an ziggy-type person last night, I wanted to punch his lights out so bad

yeah prez is one of the characters on this show for me that goes from a *rolls eyes* to a dope character

totally

btw julliard is a music school, not an acting school

btw juilliard also has a drama school. crazy chinese mother's husband went there.

I also met an ziggy-type person last night, I wanted to punch his lights out so bad

He was showing off his dick, wasn't he?

Hated Prez when he was first introduced, total idiot but by the end of season 4, I was all <3

xpost did he have a duck on a leash?

btw julliard is a music school, not an acting school

btw juilliard also has a drama school. crazy chinese mother's husband went there.

― Zsa Zsa Gay Bar (jaymc), Sunday, January 16, 2011 10:51 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

hoisted on my own petard ;_;

looking at the alumni list on wikipedia the only names that jump out at me are robin williams and christopher reeve

so

pretty sure i have heard robin williams say "true dat"

wait... val kilmer & kevin kline & ving rhames & kevin spacey as well

wait til j0rd finds out mcnulty is british

When I think of Julliard I think of Flashdance. that's all I got

wait til j0rd finds out mcnulty is british

― dayo, Saturday, January 15, 2011 10:00 PM (22 seconds ago)

i was like nooooooooooooo when i first learned this

don't tell him about any other brits

still amazed there are americans who didn't find out mcnulty was british the first time they heard his character speak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmIvu1yg3bU

Once I knew, I could totally hear it, but yeah, at first I had no clue at all

i know my small objections here are pretty subjective btw -- like i could point out specific scenes or strings of dialogue when i'm watching where things seem too writerly i.e. characters conversing in ways that humans don't -- idk, it's minor but in my mind i'm always comparing this to the sopranos which is pretty much perfect obv so \(o_O)/

i get what you're saying jordan. the dialogue and some of the acting is kind of rough around the edges, almost amateurish. it's definitely not a perfect show.

you shut up

cosign :)

i actually didn't notice how english west was until i found out he was. but in hindsight, snat boogie is so obvious.

SNAT BOOGY?

No agreeing with Jordan. the Wire is made by angels and he hasn't even finished watching the series so ...

<3 u Jordan

</3

that opening scene is a good example of the 'writerly' style that probably rubs j0rd the wrong way.

to be fair, david simon did first gain notoriety from writing a book about the balt drug trade right? so i shouldn't really be surprised

the book "homicide" is excellent fuiud

Writers be writin

to be fair, david simon did first gain notoriety from writing a book about the balt drug trade right? so i shouldn't really be surprised

― J0rdan S., Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:57 PM (Yesterday)

i haven't read the book but i'm struggling to understand the pt youre trying to make ehre

that opening scene is a good example of the 'writerly' style that probably rubs j0rd the wrong way.

― dayo, Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:55 PM (Yesterday)

the "this is america" or whatever is certainly a bit much, yeah

the dialogue and some of the acting is kind of rough around the edges, almost amateurish.

i have just shit in my chair and thrown it out the window

Hahah

yeah as a "general statement" that's basically complete bullshit

david simon did first gain notoriety from writing a book about the balt drug trade right?

as well as the ??; nah, Corner was 1997, Homicide was 1991

the "this is america" or whatever is certainly a bit much, yeah

ikr?

PS someone should go back in time and tell that to the real-life guy who said it.

in real life.

i have posted on this thread a lot about how awesome this show is, it's my favourite of all time, but there are some weak performances and some v unpolished dialogue throughout, esp. in season 1. there are also some amazing perfs and most of the dialogue is great and then there's the dickensian aspect.

i don't mind the writerly bits btw (and i don't think that's jordan's criticism either)

Simon was a newspaper writer for years, then wrote Homicide, which is straight non-fiction but gets a bit flowery and writerly with the prose, then wrote The Corner which same thing but maybe a bit moreso. imo The Wire has a pretty even mix of highfalutin dramatic dialogue and stuff that dropped right out of someone's actual mouth at some point in his journalistic career, definitely some clangers in the course of the show particularly in earlier seasons, but i think it strikes a good balance overall.

He's passionate. he's got hobbyhorses and he cant help pushing them into his storyline...but without writers who really care and connect with what they're writing, you don't get characters that could walk straight off the screen, and story lines that break your heart. I mean everyone gets so jaded about cliches and stuff and everyone wants to chin scratch but there's a lot to be said for feeling something, and emotions can be kinda cliche sometimes. Isn't necessarily bad.

a show where everything was like real life would suck

the wire >>>>> the sopranos, which fell off after season 3

that said I still have yet to finish The Wire season 5, and I've just hit the 'serial killer' arc which is kind of o_O to me, the first time I've ever "wtfed" at a major plot point on this show

some good stuff comes out of that plot, but yeah that is the main thing that drags down the whole season

a show where everything was like real life would suck

― gr8080, Sunday, January 16, 2011 12:01 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ Thee realest talk.

some good stuff comes out of that plot, but yeah that is the main thing that drags down the whole season

― some dude, Sunday, January 16, 2011 11:56 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

The second time I watched the last season, that whole plot arc was less of a bete noire and became more tolerable, even lolwtfhahah (Bunk's reactions mostly).

i remember being like "NO NO NO WHAT ARE YOU DOING!???" for the first few episodes of the serial killer plot but iirc enjoyed how it played out.

like the ziggy complaints, also don't get ppl who complain about how "annoying" the newspaper reporter character is and/or how he could make s5 unenjoyable.

also, whole serial killer plot was worth it just for this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGNwn2yXnTM

he is really annoying - because he's supposed to be really annoying - and there's a constant tension where as a viewer you just want to see him get what's coming to him, and it doesn't come soon enough

Lol gr080 yeah that was great

it has been mentioned before, maybe on this thread, maybe on one of the poll threads: one of the weaknesses of Season 5 is that the new characters have less depth - specifically the newspaper people. It makes me wonder if that was because they are more like the show's audience and thus the writers didn't feel it was as necessary?

I think Simon had too big of an axe to grind in that seaso ..he was way too close to it so it was all characters serving his DO U SEEEEE points.