guys i know that ziggy is supposed to be irritating, that doesn't mean that the acting isn't often awful too
ziggy definitely worst character on the show, between him and mouzone
mouzone being all dapper/nation of islam or w/e is a bit overkill but i don't mind him -- i did lol at him being all WHERE ARE MY NEW ISSUES OF THE NATION AND ATLANTIC? I NEED MY ANDREW SULLIVAN
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 January 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link
ransone is cute, yes -- have you guys seen 'ken park'? (it's pretty much porn)
found out last weekend that he went to college with my bf's wife
― ________ (will), Saturday, 15 January 2011 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link
I must see this Ken park
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 15 January 2011 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Immediately
lol @ j0rd being all "this isnt authentic enough"
― dayo, Saturday, January 15, 2011 5:09 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark
idk man, for as impressively intricate the story is (and will get, i'm sure), on a scene-by-scene basis there's still tons of groaners from a writing/acting perspective
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 January 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
j0rdan i wish i could have your back on this since i was w/ you on Paul Dano in There Will Be Blood, but for me there's nothing about Ransone's performance that doesn't ring true to what Ziggy-type people are like IRL
― some dude, Saturday, 15 January 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah it's amazing...wait till the end of the season, j0rdan
― horseshoe, Saturday, 15 January 2011 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh man he's certainly not on a Paul dano level. Like I said, I think he was great some of the time but awful in other ways that I sorta couldn't get over
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 January 2011 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Also: was this really the first thread on the show? Weird that it took until the final episode of s2
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 January 2011 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link
the show's initial profile was not remotely what it eventually became. also not every TV show had a thread on ILE 9 years ago.
― some dude, Saturday, 15 January 2011 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Word -- I forget how early this started -- last night I was watching an episode where they were all "he's using these things called text messages" and I was like O_O
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 January 2011 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link
lol i don't remember that
― aka the pope (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 15 January 2011 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link
it's in season 2, when the greeks & stevedores figure out that all their phones are being tapped, spiros whips out like a palm pilot or some shit & sends a text message and they're all like "huh..." -- one dude in the room even says "my kids do it all the time"
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 January 2011 23:00 (thirteen years ago) link
when did SMS take off in the US
― the act of seeing lil wayne, nicki minaj, and drake in threesome (cozen), Saturday, 15 January 2011 23:00 (thirteen years ago) link
also spiros gets a text in greek, which was very swag
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 15 January 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link
feel like it was later than in the UK, maybe a cost thing?
― the act of seeing lil wayne, nicki minaj, and drake in threesome (cozen), Saturday, 15 January 2011 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link
SMS took off way later here than in the UK. I don't really remember anyone doing it until QWERTY keyboards were commonplace.
AT&T didn't even really have MMS capability until the iPhone came out.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Saturday, 15 January 2011 23:09 (thirteen years ago) link
until after, that is
http://i.cdn.hbo.com/assets/images/series/the-wire/character/the-law/stanislaus-valchek-160.jpg
"Opportunity plus instinct equals profit."
― nomar little (Leee), Saturday, 15 January 2011 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link
It never hurts to suck up to the boss.
― nomar little (Leee), Saturday, 15 January 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link
"The flimsier the product, the higher the price."
― nomar little (Leee), Saturday, 15 January 2011 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link
"Dignity and an empty sack is worth the sack."
"Employees are rungs on the ladder of success. Don't hesitate to step on them."
Watching S2 I kept thinking that if anyone ever wanted to make a movie about the life of Jeff Buckley (heaven forbid), James Ransone would be the guy.
― philippe is standing on it (MaresNest), Saturday, 15 January 2011 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link
if they ever do a Jeff Buckley biopic they should really cast Ransone, both because he looks close enough and because afaict JB was about as obnoxious as Ziggy irl
― some dude, Saturday, January 15, 2011 5:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― horseshoe, Saturday, 15 January 2011 23:47 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought it was a bit of groaner when Zig was in the public library looking something up on the computer that Nicky came by and Zig had to explain to Nick what a search engine was in 2003.
― Kaolin Warrior (KMS), Saturday, 15 January 2011 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost Leee you forgot my favorite: Never Place Friendship Above Profit
― VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 16 January 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Just started watching this for the second time through with my gf who has never seen it. I forgot so much great stuff and im totally picking up new things and loving it
― plopson (Aerosol), Sunday, 16 January 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link
XP horseshoe, ah well great minds etc:
― philippe is standing on it (MaresNest), Sunday, 16 January 2011 00:15 (thirteen years ago) link
every season of this show is awesome
― gr8080, Sunday, 16 January 2011 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link
otm
― horseshoe, Sunday, 16 January 2011 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link
5 wasn't as bad as it's sometimes made out but i'd put it somewhere beneath "awesome"
― some dude, Sunday, 16 January 2011 00:50 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah that's otm
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 16 January 2011 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Sub-awesome?
― VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 16 January 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link
One of those shows I want to hate b/c of my inherant iconoclastic nature, but ultimately it's v well written and p shocking at times. I still think the first season is the only one worth watching, though, (indulging in my urges.)
― heh (kelpolaris), Sunday, 16 January 2011 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link
5 was the most wack but I think it got resolved in a way that still makes it awesome.
― gr8080, Sunday, 16 January 2011 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link
My personal vote goes to season 2. Couldn't stand the characters, couldn't stand the cliches, couldn't stand how obviously inspired it was by things I had already seen (it was like they took On The Waterfront and stretched what was done excellently in 2 hours into 12 hours of "Ok, I get it") .
Took me a while to pick up Season 3, but definitely feel so far that it was the 2nd best season - the return to "the streets" was much appreciated, and definitely the reason I remembered I was watching this series for in the first place.
― heh (kelpolaris), Sunday, 16 January 2011 01:18 (thirteen years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Sunday, January 16, 2011 6:36 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
there were def groaners in the 1st season cause they were following the police procedural type format too closely. like I remember the prez solves the mysterious beeper code!! part really facepalm-y, also the character of prez was just way too cardboard. it's in season 2/3/4 when they stop following that format and let it ~play out on its own~ that it becomes really excellent and transcendent.
btw julliard is a music school, not an acting school
― dayo, Sunday, 16 January 2011 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link
I also met an ziggy-type person last night, I wanted to punch his lights out so bad
― dayo, Sunday, 16 January 2011 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah prez is one of the characters on this show for me that goes from a *rolls eyes* to a dope character
― fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 16 January 2011 02:41 (thirteen years ago) link
totally
― some dude, Sunday, 16 January 2011 02:43 (thirteen years ago) link
btw juilliard also has a drama school. crazy chinese mother's husband went there.
― Zsa Zsa Gay Bar (jaymc), Sunday, 16 January 2011 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link
He was showing off his dick, wasn't he?
― nomar little (Leee), Sunday, 16 January 2011 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Hated Prez when he was first introduced, total idiot but by the end of season 4, I was all <3
― VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 16 January 2011 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost did he have a duck on a leash?
― VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 16 January 2011 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link
― Zsa Zsa Gay Bar (jaymc), Sunday, January 16, 2011 10:51 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
hoisted on my own petard ;_;
looking at the alumni list on wikipedia the only names that jump out at me are robin williams and christopher reeve
so
― dayo, Sunday, 16 January 2011 02:55 (thirteen years ago) link
pretty sure i have heard robin williams say "true dat"
― some dude, Sunday, 16 January 2011 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link
wait... val kilmer & kevin kline & ving rhames & kevin spacey as well
wait til j0rd finds out mcnulty is british
― dayo, Sunday, 16 January 2011 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link
When I think of Julliard I think of Flashdance. that's all I got
― VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 16 January 2011 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link